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> WHY DOESN'T AMERICA CELEBRATE HOPKINS?, Before the doping Armstrong was heraleded!!
BrutUalBK
post Mar 10 2013, 02:29 PM
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America is very selective at best when it comes to who we pick and chose when it comes to making celebrities, if BHop was in any other country in the world he'd be on the cover of every magazine, box of cereal, doing all the commercials and an icon to their status as a proud nation.

But in the USA, Hopkins isn't celebrated, isn't given any or very little fanfare at all. I wish I knew the reasoning for this but I guess I'd have to ask you guys here to speculate as to why this is, Lance Armstrong prior to his downfall was The Man in his native land and the only person who stood par with him are Jordan and Pacquiao.

I have a few reasons why I believe he'd never get the status he deserves in the public's persona are the following:

1. Former Felon
2. Not considered by some to be an exciting fighter
3. Boxing as a whole isn't amongst the country's most embraced sports like Football
4. He's African American (not necessarily a racial thing here) but if he were White then I believe he'd get the fanfare because white America still longs for their GWH
5. He isn't exactly pleasing to the eye (looks), the missing teeth do not help
6. In the past some took the comment he made about Joe C "never let a white boy beat me" as a racial attack and they won't live it down/let it go
7. The powers that be doesn't want an old face to be the face of this sport, they prefer the young bruiser types like Tyson

Personally, I believe he should be given more credit for what he has done and continues to do because as far as I know there isn't another dominant champion in any other sport at his age that continues to be as defiant/at the top of their league and doing it against opposition nearly half their age.

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post Mar 11 2013, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 08:51 PM) *
Explain to me why this doesn't make sense?

They love: Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan (he didn't stand for shit), RGIII (because he doesn't think race is a problem and he is happy on the plantation), Shane Mosley ( He is the good negro), Tiger Woods (he is canibi some bullshit, has no identity to black culture so they love that).

They hate the Williams sister because they do not apologize for who they are or where they come from. They hate and do mean hate Floyd because he is a Loud mouth can back up his skills and when he speaks about race problems he is dead on. I do not agree with everything Floyd says but I can tell you has spoken the truth. I do not know your nationality but you can not tell a black person what is racist and what is not. I lived this life for two decades and a half and I can tell you the shit is real. By the way, they hated LeBrone because he did not fall into their trap. When he left Cleveland you thought he escaped from the plantation (which he did) and they will never forgive him for that, now they have no choice but to respect him because he is backing up his skills.

Because you said, "They like loud ignorant black athletes!" and then continued... but I see what you're saying now... I'm a black man, and believe me I know racism is very real and still very alive today. I just don't agree with race being such an issue for Hopkins, at least it not being a big issue. There's not enough evidence to suggest it is, and it's evident that it isn't, based off the success of many other black fighters and the non-success of white, hispanic, and the like, of fighters.

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 11 2013, 09:04 PM) *
i think more than anything....bhop is not someone the main stream will NOT touch because he went against the grain throughout his career. he did not allow himself to be exploited by the big name promoters. he always did things on his own terms and he's successful despite all that. add to that....yes, he is an ex con....yes, he calls himself the executioner....but probably the biggest reason he doesn't get the support or acclaim he deserves is because the masses....including the powers that be....DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING!!!!

it's that simple.

lol I guess thats a way of putting it, but he for some reason is just not appealing to the masses. He's had plenty of opportunity to be popular in and outside of the sport, but was overshadowed by people like Roy Jones in their prime, fought in an unpopular weight division, and is proven to just not be oh-so appealing, even after defeating De La Hoya, and ending De La Hoya's reign in the spotlight, Hopkins recognition was still somewhat mute.
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- BrutUalBK   WHY DOESN'T AMERICA CELEBRATE HOPKINS?   Mar 10 2013, 02:29 PM
- - Marcus   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 10 2013, 02:29 PM)...   Mar 10 2013, 03:06 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Marcus @ Mar 10 2013, 02:06 PM) I ...   Mar 10 2013, 03:34 PM
- - neophyte7   Race is a factor   Mar 10 2013, 06:24 PM
- - daprofessor   why didn't they celebrate barry bonds? why di...   Mar 10 2013, 07:38 PM
- - bnoles4life   He's a dick, maybe?   Mar 10 2013, 07:58 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 10 2013, 06:58 P...   Mar 10 2013, 11:26 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 10 2013, 11:26 PM)...   Mar 11 2013, 04:09 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 10 2013, 03:29 PM)...   Mar 11 2013, 12:43 AM
- - neophyte7   Fuck rigid and racist jew Arum.. Hopkins had a dec...   Mar 11 2013, 09:43 AM
- - Dolimite   Same reason why they do not celebrate: Vick (befor...   Mar 11 2013, 01:10 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 02:10 PM) ...   Mar 11 2013, 01:23 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 11 2013, 01:23 PM)...   Mar 11 2013, 04:41 PM
- - sduck   What in the world, how dare people here cry racism...   Mar 11 2013, 05:39 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 04:39 P...   Mar 11 2013, 06:56 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 04:39 PM) Wha...   Mar 11 2013, 07:32 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 11 2013, 07:32 PM)...   Mar 11 2013, 07:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 11 2013, 06:40 P...   Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM)...   Mar 18 2013, 09:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Mar 18 2013, 08:40 PM) ...   Mar 18 2013, 10:11 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 11 2013, 11:23 AM)...   Mar 11 2013, 05:48 PM
- - mrchitown   He's a talented black man that isn't a sla...   Mar 11 2013, 07:25 PM
- - neophyte7   [quote name='Dolimite' date='Mar 11 20...   Mar 11 2013, 08:10 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 05:48 PM) ...   Mar 11 2013, 08:31 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 06:31 PM) Thi...   Mar 11 2013, 08:51 PM
||- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 08:51 PM) ...   Mar 18 2013, 09:38 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 07:31 PM) Thi...   Mar 11 2013, 09:53 PM
- - daprofessor   i think more than anything....bhop is not someone ...   Mar 11 2013, 09:04 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 08:51 PM) ...   Mar 11 2013, 10:34 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   I sat and thought about this one for a few days. I...   Mar 12 2013, 03:08 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 06:39 PM) Wha...   Mar 12 2013, 08:25 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 12 2013, 07:25 AM) I...   Mar 12 2013, 06:32 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 12 2013, 06:32 PM)...   Mar 12 2013, 07:31 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE So when was he ever bigger than your top bla...   Mar 12 2013, 09:24 AM
|- - WolfishPromistah   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 12 2013, 10:24 AM)...   Mar 13 2013, 01:53 AM
- - pacco_diablo   IMO, race does play a small part in it. Mostly fr...   Mar 12 2013, 11:00 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (pacco_diablo @ Mar 12 2013, 10:00 ...   Mar 12 2013, 12:10 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:25 AM) P...   Mar 13 2013, 04:47 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 13 2013, 04:47 AM) Tha...   Mar 13 2013, 08:01 AM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 13 2013, 08:01 AM)...   Mar 13 2013, 07:06 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 13 2013, 07:06 PM) lol...   Mar 13 2013, 07:10 PM
- - neophyte7   Overall Hopkin's achievements are like a giant...   Mar 13 2013, 06:30 PM
- - mgrover   I do have a fault with both the people he fought t...   Mar 13 2013, 07:55 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 13 2013, 06:55 PM) I...   Mar 13 2013, 08:49 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 14 2013, 01:49 AM)...   Mar 14 2013, 05:48 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 14 2013, 04:48 PM) D...   Mar 14 2013, 06:13 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 14 2013, 11:13 PM)...   Mar 14 2013, 06:17 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 14 2013, 05:17 PM) n...   Mar 14 2013, 07:09 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 13 2013, 08:55 PM) I...   Mar 13 2013, 08:15 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 14 2013, 01:15 AM)...   Mar 14 2013, 05:46 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 13 2013, 09:49 PM)...   Mar 14 2013, 12:56 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 14 2013, 11:56 AM)...   Mar 14 2013, 03:29 PM
- - mgrover   Hopkins obviously, I mean he beat Cloud to win the...   Mar 14 2013, 08:07 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 14 2013, 07:07 PM) H...   Mar 15 2013, 02:33 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 15 2013, 07:33 PM)...   Mar 15 2013, 07:46 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 15 2013, 06:46 PM) F...   Mar 15 2013, 08:20 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 16 2013, 01:20 AM)...   Mar 16 2013, 01:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 16 2013, 12:40 PM) I...   Mar 17 2013, 04:42 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 17 2013, 04:42 PM)...   Mar 18 2013, 06:56 AM
- - sduck   I think what MG is saying makes sense. You can def...   Mar 19 2013, 01:50 AM
- - anthonyaccurate   To anyone discrediting b-hop for beating cloud as ...   Mar 19 2013, 05:01 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Mar 19 2013, 04...   Mar 19 2013, 10:18 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Mar 19 2013, 10...   Mar 20 2013, 01:03 PM
||- - anthonyaccurate   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 20 2013, 02:03 PM) D...   Mar 21 2013, 10:20 PM
||- - mgrover   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Mar 22 2013, 03...   Mar 22 2013, 05:51 AM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Mar 19 2013, 05...   Mar 20 2013, 10:43 PM
- - neophyte7   Dawson was simply better that night and style wise...   Mar 22 2013, 07:06 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 22 2013, 07:06 AM)...   Mar 26 2013, 01:25 PM
- - mgrover   http://www.fighthype.com/news/article14111.html I...   Mar 26 2013, 10:28 AM
- - FinitoElDinamita   IT's simple. Reason he's not celebrated i...   Mar 27 2013, 09:13 PM
- - neophyte7   [quote name='FinitoElDinamita' date='M...   Mar 27 2013, 09:48 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE Bullshit...Someone highlighted that Lance Ar...   Mar 28 2013, 04:57 AM


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