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> WHY DOESN'T AMERICA CELEBRATE HOPKINS?, Before the doping Armstrong was heraleded!!
BrutUalBK
post Mar 10 2013, 02:29 PM
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America is very selective at best when it comes to who we pick and chose when it comes to making celebrities, if BHop was in any other country in the world he'd be on the cover of every magazine, box of cereal, doing all the commercials and an icon to their status as a proud nation.

But in the USA, Hopkins isn't celebrated, isn't given any or very little fanfare at all. I wish I knew the reasoning for this but I guess I'd have to ask you guys here to speculate as to why this is, Lance Armstrong prior to his downfall was The Man in his native land and the only person who stood par with him are Jordan and Pacquiao.

I have a few reasons why I believe he'd never get the status he deserves in the public's persona are the following:

1. Former Felon
2. Not considered by some to be an exciting fighter
3. Boxing as a whole isn't amongst the country's most embraced sports like Football
4. He's African American (not necessarily a racial thing here) but if he were White then I believe he'd get the fanfare because white America still longs for their GWH
5. He isn't exactly pleasing to the eye (looks), the missing teeth do not help
6. In the past some took the comment he made about Joe C "never let a white boy beat me" as a racial attack and they won't live it down/let it go
7. The powers that be doesn't want an old face to be the face of this sport, they prefer the young bruiser types like Tyson

Personally, I believe he should be given more credit for what he has done and continues to do because as far as I know there isn't another dominant champion in any other sport at his age that continues to be as defiant/at the top of their league and doing it against opposition nearly half their age.

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neophyte7
post Mar 27 2013, 09:48 PM
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[quote name='FinitoElDinamita' date='Mar 27 2013, 10:13 PM' post='576470']
IT's simple. Reason he's not celebrated is because he's boring as fuck.. There's nothing else to it and it's no mystery why he's not celebrated..



Bullshit...Someone highlighted that Lance Armstrong was celebrated and he is a cyclist... cycling is boring as hell--no fucking way Cloud - Hopkins was not a boring fight maybe boring to those who picked against hopkins it was boring to see Cloud get matadored...
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post Mar 28 2013, 04:57 AM
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Bullshit...Someone highlighted that Lance Armstrong was celebrated and he is a cyclist... cycling is boring as hell--no fucking way Cloud - Hopkins was not a boring fight maybe boring to those who picked against hopkins it was boring to see Cloud get matadored...




I said he was celebrated, which he was. I started this thread and I agree with you that cycling is boring, nevertheless did not Lance have commercial endorsements? Did not Lance have an entire country following him?? I love BHop as a fighter and I've never said he was boring but I'm not sure why some people seem to think that way: the fight with Pavlik was very entertaining, the fight with Trinidad was exciting, the fights with Allen were exciting, the Joppy beatdown was hellacious.

Now that I'm looking at the quote above from Dinamita I see that he's the one who is stating BHop is boring and usually you get that kind of quote from Mexicans because they want to see a guy brawl (not box, there is a difference). Back in BHop's heyday he did brawl often but he is damn near 50 and for some clown to think that a man that age is just going to stand there and go toe to toe it shows how little he/she knows of the art of boxing.

Now I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Hops did not have a few stinkers like the fight with Hakkar (Morrade was the one running) and a few others but then again, it takes two to tango so it is not all totally his fault that those fights what they were but still if you take Nard's total career he had some very exciting fights overall with a few duds in between.
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- BrutUalBK   WHY DOESN'T AMERICA CELEBRATE HOPKINS?   Mar 10 2013, 02:29 PM
- - Marcus   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 10 2013, 02:29 PM)...   Mar 10 2013, 03:06 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Marcus @ Mar 10 2013, 02:06 PM) I ...   Mar 10 2013, 03:34 PM
- - neophyte7   Race is a factor   Mar 10 2013, 06:24 PM
- - daprofessor   why didn't they celebrate barry bonds? why di...   Mar 10 2013, 07:38 PM
- - bnoles4life   He's a dick, maybe?   Mar 10 2013, 07:58 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 10 2013, 06:58 P...   Mar 10 2013, 11:26 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 10 2013, 11:26 PM)...   Mar 11 2013, 04:09 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 10 2013, 03:29 PM)...   Mar 11 2013, 12:43 AM
- - neophyte7   Fuck rigid and racist jew Arum.. Hopkins had a dec...   Mar 11 2013, 09:43 AM
- - Dolimite   Same reason why they do not celebrate: Vick (befor...   Mar 11 2013, 01:10 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 02:10 PM) ...   Mar 11 2013, 01:23 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 11 2013, 01:23 PM)...   Mar 11 2013, 04:41 PM
- - sduck   What in the world, how dare people here cry racism...   Mar 11 2013, 05:39 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 04:39 P...   Mar 11 2013, 06:56 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 04:39 PM) Wha...   Mar 11 2013, 07:32 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 11 2013, 07:32 PM)...   Mar 11 2013, 07:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 11 2013, 06:40 P...   Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM)...   Mar 18 2013, 09:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Mar 18 2013, 08:40 PM) ...   Mar 18 2013, 10:11 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 11 2013, 11:23 AM)...   Mar 11 2013, 05:48 PM
- - mrchitown   He's a talented black man that isn't a sla...   Mar 11 2013, 07:25 PM
- - neophyte7   [quote name='Dolimite' date='Mar 11 20...   Mar 11 2013, 08:10 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 05:48 PM) ...   Mar 11 2013, 08:31 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 06:31 PM) Thi...   Mar 11 2013, 08:51 PM
||- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 08:51 PM) ...   Mar 18 2013, 09:38 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 07:31 PM) Thi...   Mar 11 2013, 09:53 PM
- - daprofessor   i think more than anything....bhop is not someone ...   Mar 11 2013, 09:04 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 08:51 PM) ...   Mar 11 2013, 10:34 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   I sat and thought about this one for a few days. I...   Mar 12 2013, 03:08 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 06:39 PM) Wha...   Mar 12 2013, 08:25 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 12 2013, 07:25 AM) I...   Mar 12 2013, 06:32 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 12 2013, 06:32 PM)...   Mar 12 2013, 07:31 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE So when was he ever bigger than your top bla...   Mar 12 2013, 09:24 AM
|- - WolfishPromistah   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 12 2013, 10:24 AM)...   Mar 13 2013, 01:53 AM
- - pacco_diablo   IMO, race does play a small part in it. Mostly fr...   Mar 12 2013, 11:00 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (pacco_diablo @ Mar 12 2013, 10:00 ...   Mar 12 2013, 12:10 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:25 AM) P...   Mar 13 2013, 04:47 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 13 2013, 04:47 AM) Tha...   Mar 13 2013, 08:01 AM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 13 2013, 08:01 AM)...   Mar 13 2013, 07:06 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 13 2013, 07:06 PM) lol...   Mar 13 2013, 07:10 PM
- - neophyte7   Overall Hopkin's achievements are like a giant...   Mar 13 2013, 06:30 PM
- - mgrover   I do have a fault with both the people he fought t...   Mar 13 2013, 07:55 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 13 2013, 06:55 PM) I...   Mar 13 2013, 08:49 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 14 2013, 01:49 AM)...   Mar 14 2013, 05:48 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 14 2013, 04:48 PM) D...   Mar 14 2013, 06:13 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 14 2013, 11:13 PM)...   Mar 14 2013, 06:17 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 14 2013, 05:17 PM) n...   Mar 14 2013, 07:09 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 13 2013, 08:55 PM) I...   Mar 13 2013, 08:15 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 14 2013, 01:15 AM)...   Mar 14 2013, 05:46 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 13 2013, 09:49 PM)...   Mar 14 2013, 12:56 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 14 2013, 11:56 AM)...   Mar 14 2013, 03:29 PM
- - mgrover   Hopkins obviously, I mean he beat Cloud to win the...   Mar 14 2013, 08:07 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 14 2013, 07:07 PM) H...   Mar 15 2013, 02:33 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 15 2013, 07:33 PM)...   Mar 15 2013, 07:46 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 15 2013, 06:46 PM) F...   Mar 15 2013, 08:20 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 16 2013, 01:20 AM)...   Mar 16 2013, 01:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 16 2013, 12:40 PM) I...   Mar 17 2013, 04:42 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 17 2013, 04:42 PM)...   Mar 18 2013, 06:56 AM
- - sduck   I think what MG is saying makes sense. You can def...   Mar 19 2013, 01:50 AM
- - anthonyaccurate   To anyone discrediting b-hop for beating cloud as ...   Mar 19 2013, 05:01 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Mar 19 2013, 04...   Mar 19 2013, 10:18 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Mar 19 2013, 10...   Mar 20 2013, 01:03 PM
||- - anthonyaccurate   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 20 2013, 02:03 PM) D...   Mar 21 2013, 10:20 PM
||- - mgrover   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Mar 22 2013, 03...   Mar 22 2013, 05:51 AM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Mar 19 2013, 05...   Mar 20 2013, 10:43 PM
- - neophyte7   Dawson was simply better that night and style wise...   Mar 22 2013, 07:06 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 22 2013, 07:06 AM)...   Mar 26 2013, 01:25 PM
- - mgrover   http://www.fighthype.com/news/article14111.html I...   Mar 26 2013, 10:28 AM
- - FinitoElDinamita   IT's simple. Reason he's not celebrated i...   Mar 27 2013, 09:13 PM
- - neophyte7   [quote name='FinitoElDinamita' date='M...   Mar 27 2013, 09:48 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE Bullshit...Someone highlighted that Lance Ar...   Mar 28 2013, 04:57 AM


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