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aTYpicalTYrant
post Mar 18 2013, 12:01 PM
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They're saying that HBO is going the crazy ex-Girlfriend route with this split. Lol
I guess they are on Their Taylor Swift. The full report is yet to come out on yahoo but if true this would prove more serious than I imagined. Unfortunately I believe HBO will hurt themselves more so in the long run. You don't burn bridges.....
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post Mar 18 2013, 09:46 PM
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Showtime, simply put, does not have the money to absorb all the extra inventory that this causes GBP. HBO still crushes Showtime in terms of number of subscribers and that has NOTHING to do with boxing. The hardcore fan will certainly watch Showtime, but the casual fan that gets turned on to a match after watching it on HBO On-Demand will still be there for HBO....not as much for Showtime.

Showtime still won't have as many subscribers as HBO and a BUNCH of mouths to feed. This means a secondary market could get good fights like Broner, Hopkins, etc. That also means Broner, Hopkins, etc won't make as much money. Here is how it shakes out...


-GBP obviously gets hurt the most. Simply put, Showtime's budget isn't going to be able to feed all of those mouths.

-HBO is hurt as well. GBP has the deepest stable of fighters.

-Boxing fans are hurt because it limits the number of fights we will see

-The BIG winner is Showtime. HBO gets hurt and Showtime will likely get better prices on some future fights.

-Secondary guys like Hopkins and Broner get hurt. Showtime can't pay them the same as HBO would.

-Eventually GBP will come back to HBO...more on HBO's terms. It may take a few years, but HBO has enough money to put on some really good events. Ward, Martinez, Pac, JMM, Bradley, etc is a decent stable to work with. HBO essentially gets 1st crack at anyone that isn't GBP.
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post Mar 18 2013, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (KOpower @ Mar 18 2013, 06:46 PM) *
Showtime, simply put, does not have the money to absorb all the extra inventory that this causes GBP. HBO still crushes Showtime in terms of number of subscribers and that has NOTHING to do with boxing. The hardcore fan will certainly watch Showtime, but the casual fan that gets turned on to a match after watching it on HBO On-Demand will still be there for HBO....not as much for Showtime.

Showtime still won't have as many subscribers as HBO and a BUNCH of mouths to feed. This means a secondary market could get good fights like Broner, Hopkins, etc. That also means Broner, Hopkins, etc won't make as much money. Here is how it shakes out...


-GBP obviously gets hurt the most. Simply put, Showtime's budget isn't going to be able to feed all of those mouths.

-HBO is hurt as well. GBP has the deepest stable of fighters.

-Boxing fans are hurt because it limits the number of fights we will see

-The BIG winner is Showtime. HBO gets hurt and Showtime will likely get better prices on some future fights.

-Secondary guys like Hopkins and Broner get hurt. Showtime can't pay them the same as HBO would.

-Eventually GBP will come back to HBO...more on HBO's terms. It may take a few years, but HBO has enough money to put on some really good events. Ward, Martinez, Pac, JMM, Bradley, etc is a decent stable to work with. HBO essentially gets 1st crack at anyone that isn't GBP.


Its about cash flow. GBP has 140 thu 154 on lock. Showtime will be fine. They hae the 2 best young stars, Mayweather, and all around better roster than HBO and TR.
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- aTYpicalTYrant   HBO will no longer do Business with Golden Boy!?   Mar 18 2013, 12:01 PM
- - checkleft   http://m.ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/17782...from-...   Mar 18 2013, 12:37 PM
- - neophyte7   WAS HBO involved when it was reported HOPKINS WOUL...   Mar 18 2013, 12:43 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 18 2013, 12:43 PM)...   Mar 18 2013, 10:29 PM
- - checkleft   Very surprised hbo said they are passing on broner...   Mar 18 2013, 03:08 PM
- - mitukczuk   HBO is losing big these days. BUT...It's time ...   Mar 18 2013, 03:49 PM
- - xxxxxx   Mayweather Promotions Is the Future of Showtime,CB...   Mar 18 2013, 04:30 PM
- - Jack 1000   The Gay Love relationship between Lampley and Osca...   Mar 18 2013, 05:04 PM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 18 2013, 05:04 PM)...   Mar 18 2013, 05:22 PM
- - Franchize   You know what this means right? Every fight they h...   Mar 18 2013, 05:18 PM
- - scdrking2   Cant believe HBO is acting so butt hurt, but it is...   Mar 18 2013, 05:25 PM
- - daprofessor   message to hbo: if you would like to be relevant ...   Mar 18 2013, 06:10 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 18 2013, 06:10 P...   Mar 18 2013, 11:28 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 19 2013, 12:28 AM)...   Mar 19 2013, 12:26 PM
- - Dolimite   They have gone crazy!!! Who does Top R...   Mar 18 2013, 06:18 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 18 2013, 06:18 PM) ...   Mar 18 2013, 06:21 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 18 2013, 04:21 P...   Mar 18 2013, 06:28 PM
- - KOpower   Showtime, simply put, does not have the money to a...   Mar 18 2013, 09:46 PM
|- - leonthegee   QUOTE (KOpower @ Mar 18 2013, 06:46 PM) S...   Mar 18 2013, 11:57 PM
- - BigFightFan   Although this hurts HBO upfront, I see it as an op...   Mar 18 2013, 10:16 PM
- - BrutUalBK   HBO just don't like the sour taste of the grap...   Mar 19 2013, 12:28 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 19 2013, 01:28 AM)...   Mar 19 2013, 12:28 PM
- - Hotsauce   50 putting 40 mill on the table for broner?   Mar 19 2013, 01:19 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Mar 18 2013, 11:19 PM) ...   Mar 19 2013, 12:16 PM
- - mrchitown   Lemme just say, I in no way believe Broner would d...   Mar 19 2013, 01:51 AM
- - mrchitown   I'm seeing comments all over the place about p...   Mar 19 2013, 02:09 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 19 2013, 02:51 AM)...   Mar 19 2013, 01:18 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 19 2013, 02:18 PM) I...   Mar 19 2013, 01:36 PM
||- - Dolimite   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 19 2013, 10:36 A...   Mar 19 2013, 06:51 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 19 2013, 07:51 PM) ...   Mar 25 2013, 04:55 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 19 2013, 12:18 PM) I...   Mar 19 2013, 10:26 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 19 2013, 11:26 PM)...   Mar 25 2013, 04:57 PM
- - daprofessor   ross greenburg is now with showtime!!...   Mar 19 2013, 05:00 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 19 2013, 04:00 P...   Mar 19 2013, 10:21 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 19 2013, 11:21 PM)...   Mar 25 2013, 04:56 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 25 2013, 03:56 P...   Mar 25 2013, 09:19 PM
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||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 27 2013, 05:08 PM)...   Mar 27 2013, 05:18 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 25 2013, 09:19 PM)...   Mar 26 2013, 02:55 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Mar 26 2013, 01:55 PM)...   Mar 26 2013, 04:54 PM
- - Jack 1000   QUOTE UOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 19 2013, 03:09 AM) * I...   Mar 19 2013, 10:32 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 19 2013, 09:32 PM)...   Mar 20 2013, 12:43 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 20 2013, 12:43 PM)...   Mar 20 2013, 01:47 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 20 2013, 01:43 PM)...   Mar 25 2013, 04:58 PM
- - checkleft   Idk about switching. I'll just stream or go to...   Mar 19 2013, 11:16 PM
- - Franchize   I won't be getting rid of HBO. I have all the ...   Mar 20 2013, 03:14 PM
- - sduck   I agree with many people here lol. I always found ...   Mar 20 2013, 10:25 PM
- - Cshel86   My cable bill is about $140/monthly...so I en...   Mar 25 2013, 07:32 PM
- - neophyte7   Unless I am mistaken 24/7 was floyd mayweather...   Mar 25 2013, 09:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 25 2013, 08:40 PM)...   Mar 26 2013, 04:55 PM
- - scdrking2   Am I the only one who is super pissed Starz cancel...   Mar 25 2013, 11:07 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (scdrking2 @ Mar 26 2013, 12:07 AM)...   Mar 26 2013, 08:13 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (scdrking2 @ Mar 25 2013, 10:07 PM)...   Mar 26 2013, 04:52 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 26 2013, 05:55 PM)...   Mar 27 2013, 11:33 AM
- - mrchitown   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 27 2013, 11:33 AM)...   Mar 27 2013, 05:07 PM


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