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Dolimite
post Mar 31 2013, 09:20 PM
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http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-eyes...showdown--63923

So he does want a pay day and he does want to be a PPV star and he wants recognition. I guess being at the MGM for the Rios and Alvarado fight made him realize that maybe the "little man" was right. He should be getting paid way more than he is and he should be getting big arenas outside of Oak Town. How is Guerrero who is nothing compared to Ward skill wise and people he has fought getting the biggest pay day of his career and getting big time exposure versus Ward? The questions have to be running through Andre's head. Not only that but how is a bum like Chavez Jr. bringing in more bank then an Olympic Gold winner?

As far as the fight goes it is bullshit on its highest level. If he can call JCC Jr. out he better call out Sergio or GGG. Either Ward goes up to Light Heavy weight or he needs to takes fights at a 164 pound catch weight to get some popular names under his belt. Plus his management team is not helping. He needs an image, not so much a asshole one but something that will get the fans asses at his fights. I would not pay to see this fight because JCC Jr. skill is not even close enough to handle Ward now he does have a punchers chance but that is it.
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post Apr 1 2013, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 1 2013, 05:12 AM) *
So....anything that Floyd does, you praise it and make party plans for it. Now that Ward wants to make some type of money and get the recognition that he truly deserves, it's "bullshit"?!

Fuck Sergio and GGG...neither of those guys truly want to rumble with Ward. I believe we saw it in both of their recent fights, they cant and wont deal with a boxer, that's as physical as Ward.

This fight has "money" and "exposure" written all over it...and it also has "Chavez Sr. vs Taylor" written all over it. If Ward and Mayweather are on the same level skill-wise, then he should be given that same type of respect for fighting whoever, especially if guys are on Floyd's nuts about fighting Guerrero. One would have to agree that this fight sounds better than Ward vs Pavlik.


If anything, this fight should keep him there in the meantime. It seems like LHW is starting to get itself back together, so it should be good and ready for him when he moves up. There needs to be a some type of "big" fight waiting for him when he moves up, or it will be the same for him, as it was at 168.


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I think that Arum will try to sabotage this one. He'll let Julio get some exposure off of Ward's name (translation: make the public think that Julio is still a good enough threat to face a good boxer), then he'll do away with the fight.

What happened in the 12th round of the Martinez fight, goes to show the public that no matter how much a fighter is in control when fighting Julio, they have to fight for the WHOLE 36 minutes. If Martinez can fall victim to a late rally, then surely Arum will sell it to the public as if Ward can too.


I am actually commending Ward for finally realizing that he should be capitalizing on his skill set. I am glad he is waking up and realizing that there is a bunch of money to be made and checks to be signed, I am all for that and Floyd has nothing to do with this. Now Floyd did say Andre should be making more money and he is right. But I do not want to see him beat the shit out of JCC Jr. It would be a mismatch on the highest scale, if anything either he should move up or do catch weights at 164 and handle those people willing to meet him there. JCC Jr. is a joke of a fighter and he does not deserve to get in the ring with a great skilled boxer like Ward. I think he can find a bigger name than JCC Jr. But again he is a name and that what he needs to get him at super stardom. But since you did bring up Floyd, he fought Oscar someone that actually had a chance to beat Mayweather so it was a risk, I do not see how JCC Jr. is a risk. But time will tell and again JCC Jr. does have that one punch power. SO who knows what can happen. What challenge could JCC Jr. bring Ward?
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post Apr 1 2013, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 1 2013, 01:46 PM) *
I am actually commending Ward for finally realizing that he should be capitalizing on his skill set. I am glad he is waking up and realizing that there is a bunch of money to be made and checks to be signed, I am all for that and Floyd has nothing to do with this. Now Floyd did say Andre should be making more money and he is right. But I do not want to see him beat the shit out of JCC Jr. It would be a mismatch on the highest scale, if anything either he should move up or do catch weights at 164 and handle those people willing to meet him there. JCC Jr. is a joke of a fighter and he does not deserve to get in the ring with a great skilled boxer like Ward. I think he can find a bigger name than JCC Jr. But again he is a name and that what he needs to get him at super stardom. But since you did bring up Floyd, he fought Oscar someone that actually had a chance to beat Mayweather so it was a risk, I do not see how JCC Jr. is a risk. But time will tell and again JCC Jr. does have that one punch power. SO who knows what can happen. What challenge could JCC Jr. bring Ward?

Julio is a fighter with a name, and the ability to outlast you, if you let him. Funny how everyone thought he was a bum before facing Martinez, and he almost stopped Martinez in the 12th. What happened in that round, can be used to promote this fight on an "anything can happen" basis.

What challenge did Gatti bring Floyd? None, but that performance of his, did him favors in the long run. What challenge did Diaz bring Pacquiao? None, but Manny's performance along with winning a title in another division, did favors for him. What challenge did Provodnikov bring Bradley (on paper)? None, but their performances did them both favors. What challenge did Maidana bring Alexander? None, but Devon's performance got him back in the running. What challenge did Lopez bring Ortiz (on paper)? None, but Lopez made a name for himself in that fight. What challenge did Garcia bring Khan (on paper)? None, but Garcia made a name for himself in that fight.

I may have given a few bad examples, but you surely get my point because you already mentioned it. The underlying benefits of these fights, aren't always at the forefront, but that's a fighter's main goal in the sport, make a name for themselves, become champion, etc..which all leads to more MONEY. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Apr 1 2013, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:58 AM) *
Julio is a fighter with a name, and the ability to outlast you, if you let him. Funny how everyone thought he was a bum before facing Martinez, and he almost stopped Martinez in the 12th. What happened in that round, can be used to promote this fight on an "anything can happen" basis.

What challenge did Gatti bring Floyd? None, but that performance of his, did him favors in the long run. What challenge did Diaz bring Pacquiao? None, but Manny's performance along with winning a title in another division, did favors for him. What challenge did Provodnikov bring Bradley (on paper)? None, but their performances did them both favors. What challenge did Maidana bring Alexander? None, but Devon's performance got him back in the running. What challenge did Lopez bring Ortiz (on paper)? None, but Lopez made a name for himself in that fight. What challenge did Garcia bring Khan (on paper)? None, but Garcia made a name for himself in that fight.

I may have given a few bad examples, but you surely get my point because you already mentioned it. The underlying benefits of these fights, aren't always at the forefront, but that's a fighter's main goal in the sport, make a name for themselves, become champion, etc..which all leads to more MONEY. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


We are both in agreement then, he waxes the shit out of Julio and becomes the man that he should be. I just don't like the fact that it is Julio getting another big payday. Gatti vs. Floyd was like watching someone beat the shit out of a new born puppy, merciless. I get your point. I just do not think Julio deserves another big pay day. As far as his ass kicking he took against Martinez, the 12th round was luck but made for good drama.

You just gave them their PPV view name, "Anything can Happen!" and the only clip that they will show will be from the 12th round against the SM fight. go figure,
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- Dolimite   Andre Ward Wants JCC Jr.   Mar 31 2013, 09:20 PM
- - checkleft   Coincidence that mayweather just called him out on...   Mar 31 2013, 09:35 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (checkleft @ Mar 31 2013, 09:35 PM)...   Apr 1 2013, 08:31 PM
- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 31 2013, 09:20 PM) ...   Apr 1 2013, 02:34 AM
- - leonthegee   I like Ward and all but wheres the outrage for him...   Apr 1 2013, 06:22 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   I like this attempt by Ward. JCC Jr wont step into...   Apr 1 2013, 06:50 AM
- - Franchize   As mean spirited as Floyd's comments seemed, m...   Apr 1 2013, 07:46 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 31 2013, 10:20 PM) ...   Apr 1 2013, 08:12 AM
- - Franchize   I don't think Sergio wants it with Ward. I thi...   Apr 1 2013, 08:15 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 1 2013, 09:15 AM) ...   Apr 1 2013, 08:25 AM
- - BrutUalBK   I so hope and pray that AW gets to beat the brakes...   Apr 1 2013, 11:17 AM
- - Gambit808   It's hard to say if GGG would take the bait fo...   Apr 1 2013, 12:15 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Apr 1 2013, 01:15 PM) ...   Apr 1 2013, 12:24 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 1 2013, 05:12 AM) So...   Apr 1 2013, 12:46 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 1 2013, 01:46 PM) I...   Apr 1 2013, 12:58 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:58 AM) Ju...   Apr 1 2013, 04:36 PM
- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 31 2013, 09:20 PM) ...   Apr 1 2013, 02:12 PM
- - Cheesey1   Some truly funny comments on here. JCC Jr. havin...   Apr 1 2013, 07:02 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Apr 1 2013, 07:02 PM) S...   Apr 1 2013, 07:57 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 1 2013, 08:57 PM...   Apr 1 2013, 08:07 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Apr 1 2013, 08:07 PM) T...   Apr 1 2013, 09:20 PM
||- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 1 2013, 10:20 PM...   Apr 1 2013, 09:49 PM
|- - Plah   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 1 2013, 08:57 PM...   Apr 1 2013, 11:45 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Plah @ Apr 1 2013, 11:45 PM) LOL, ...   Apr 2 2013, 05:26 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 2 2013, 11:26 PM...   Apr 2 2013, 06:34 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 1 2013, 05:36 PM) W...   Apr 1 2013, 07:14 PM
- - neophyte7   Shame on ward for calling out Chavez Jr... that se...   Apr 1 2013, 09:32 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 1 2013, 01:58 PM) Ju...   Apr 2 2013, 08:11 AM
|- - aTYpicalTYrant   QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 2 2013, 09:11 AM) ...   Apr 2 2013, 08:21 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 2 2013, 08:11 AM) ...   Apr 2 2013, 05:28 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Apr 2 2013, 09:21...   Apr 2 2013, 08:33 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 2 2013, 09:11 AM) ...   Apr 2 2013, 08:42 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 2 2013, 09:42 AM) At...   Apr 2 2013, 08:52 AM
- - Marcus   I wouldn't want to see Ward vs Chavez. Thats a...   Apr 2 2013, 11:14 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 2 2013, 09:52 AM) ...   Apr 2 2013, 12:23 PM
- - Franchize   Ward has earned himself a big pay day/ small chall...   Apr 2 2013, 12:26 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 2 2013, 06:28 PM...   Apr 2 2013, 06:53 PM
- - daprofessor   ok...u guys have a point about the diurrhetics. ...   Apr 3 2013, 02:37 PM
- - mrchitown   Supposedly, JCC jr came out and said to the media ...   Apr 3 2013, 09:02 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 3 2013, 10:02 PM) ...   Apr 3 2013, 11:30 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 3 2013, 11:30 PM) ...   Apr 4 2013, 12:31 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 3 2013, 10:31 PM) ...   Apr 4 2013, 05:16 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 4 2013, 06:16 AM) I...   Apr 4 2013, 07:45 AM
||- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 4 2013, 04:45 AM) So...   Apr 4 2013, 11:15 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 4 2013, 05:16 AM) I...   Apr 4 2013, 03:10 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 4 2013, 06:16 AM) I...   Apr 4 2013, 11:24 AM
- - Musashi100   i don't like this fight, to predictable in my ...   Apr 5 2013, 12:23 PM


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