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neophyte7
post Apr 7 2013, 07:36 AM
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According to Oscar Floyd is afraid of Saul Alvarez... Is Oscar selling tickets for Saul and Trout or is he serious?
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post Apr 10 2013, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE (KOpower @ Apr 9 2013, 10:29 PM) *
Come on, he was all set to fight Paul Williams. He was all set to fight Kirkland. He was all set to fight Ortiz. You know it and I know it so why do you have to make stuff up? Canelo wasn't riding off of anyone's name there...he was going to fight all 3 on a PPV event but through no fault of his own the fights all fell through. Honestly, if you want to deny and debate that FACT, is it really worth talking to you?

What Canelo wanted was pretty simple. He fought on Floyd's last 2 PPV cards in hopes that it would pave the way for a fight against Mayweather in the future. Well Mayweather's team obviously wanted Canelo-Trout on the undercard (and for good reason) so they dangled the possible fight with Mayweather in front of him n hopes that Canelo would accept. Canelo said yes...but instead of HOPING that Mayweather would eventually agree, Canelo wanted in writing. Mayweather declined so Canelo took the Trout fight and made his own event.

There is nothing wrong with either side, so where is the argument from Mayweather fans coming from?

And like I said before, every published report says that the deal was Canelo v Mayweather IF Canelo beat Trout. Period. Like I said, find me one shred of evidence that says otherwise and I will do further research. You have none because you know that was the way it went down. For some really, REALLY odd reason you don't want to give that talking point up. It's sort of weird...

The argument isn't from "mayweather fans" its from boxing fans. I could care less if they fought on separate cards or the same card. The argument is Canelo, in terms of real boxing fans, is absolutely nobody to be demanding a mayweather fight. He has fought no one, he has done nothing, his belt is an accessory, a gift. Yes fights fell through with two decent 154 pounders who had not looked good at all in their passed 2-3 fights, but does that warrant him to go down to lower divisions to just pad Gus already padded record? What about molina? Lara? Delvin? Bundrage? Instead he has his sights set on the ortiz lopez winner!?! Two guys who not too long ago were Jr welterweights. He was a joke before this fight got signed, and even Mexican fans like me know it. At least jcc Jr took his schooling like a man and showed some grit.

Btw I can bet money that the other two times Canelo was on mayweathers cards it was because of golden boys agenda not because of the mayweather camp (Wtf was that all about). He would get way more exposure on cards like that than a normal hbo showcase back then.
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post Apr 10 2013, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 10 2013, 01:56 AM) *
The argument isn't from "mayweather fans" its from boxing fans. I could care less if they fought on separate cards or the same card. The argument is Canelo, in terms of real boxing fans, is absolutely nobody to be demanding a mayweather fight. He has fought no one, he has done nothing, his belt is an accessory, a gift. Yes fights fell through with two decent 154 pounders who had not looked good at all in their passed 2-3 fights, but does that warrant him to go down to lower divisions to just pad Gus already padded record? What about molina? Lara? Delvin? Bundrage? Instead he has his sights set on the ortiz lopez winner!?! Two guys who not too long ago were Jr welterweights. He was a joke before this fight got signed, and even Mexican fans like me know it. At least jcc Jr took his schooling like a man and showed some grit.

Btw I can bet money that the other two times Canelo was on mayweathers cards it was because of golden boys agenda not because of the mayweather camp (Wtf was that all about). He would get way more exposure on cards like that than a normal hbo showcase back then.


Canelo isn't demanding anything. Team Mayweather/GBP asked Canelo if he wanted to fight on Mayweather's undercard. Canelo said he would if Floyd signed an agreement. Floyd denied so Canelo made his own event. I don't see what it so unreasonable about that. Mayweather wanted Canelo on the undercard...Canelo made a counter-offer and Mayweather declined. Why is that such an insult to you? It almost sounds like you believe Canelo should get on his knees for Mayweather, fight on his undercard, and then wipe his mouth and say thank you when everything is over.

Would it really have been that much of a difference if Canelo simply said no with no counter-offer?
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post Apr 10 2013, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (KOpower @ Apr 11 2013, 12:13 AM) *
Canelo isn't demanding anything. Team Mayweather/GBP asked Canelo if he wanted to fight on Mayweather's undercard. Canelo said he would if Floyd signed an agreement. Floyd denied so Canelo made his own event. I don't see what it so unreasonable about that. Mayweather wanted Canelo on the undercard...Canelo made a counter-offer and Mayweather declined. Why is that such an insult to you? It almost sounds like you believe Canelo should get on his knees for Mayweather, fight on his undercard, and then wipe his mouth and say thank you when everything is over.

Would it really have been that much of a difference if Canelo simply said no with no counter-offer?


Its not the fact he made a counter offer, its the fact he made a counter offer like he was some big shot.
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