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> is bob arum racist or imcompetent..., when it comes to promoting black fighters?
daprofessor
post Apr 15 2013, 02:58 PM
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he's had some great black fighters over the years....but ali was a finished product that didn't need much marketing. same can be said for leonard. he guided floyd early in his career but imo did not promote floyd as well as he could have or half as much as he promoted dlh or pacquiao. is he just not in touch? or does he just not care? rigondeaux has displayed exceptional skill like we haven't seen in quite some time. this guy has some amazing accomplishments on his resume.

world unified champion in just 10 pro fights
2 time gold medalist
2 time pan am gold medalist
2 time world cup champion

had almost 400 fights as an amateur with only 12 losses and hasn't been defeated in 10yrs.

he just beat the fighter of the year '12 very convincingly and he's going to be a hard sell??? is arum serious? the opposition is out there for rigondeaux to stake his claim at greatness. we have an opportunity to see another truly great fighter accomplish great things.

fights i'd like to see that are very doable.

mares
moreno
agbeko
nishioka
darchinyan
wv2

if he should move up...
gary russell
mickey garcia

those are just off the top of my head. in my mind....we just saw a megafight. the two very best in the division and rigondeaux proved he was a level above the fighter of the year. so now he has to suffer because arum is either incompetent or racist? bullshit!!! push this guy!!! don't punish him for his greatness. give the fans what they deserve and stop with the bullshit agendas.

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post Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM
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Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure to promote black fighters is based on the color green. There is a huge market for Latino's, Pinnoys and the great White hope. The NFL and NBA have black sports demographics on lockdown. Its that simple.

I think some of the things he said after the fight about Rigondeaux were disgusting. Thats like breach of contract type stuff. Arum was honest, but he should have lied his ass off. The promoter is also in the business of marketing the guy and selling fights. He did Rigo no favors after the fight.
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post Apr 15 2013, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM) *
Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure to promote black fighters is based on the color green. There is a huge market for Latino's, Pinnoys and the great White hope. The NFL and NBA have black sports demographics on lockdown. Its that simple.

I think some of the things he said after the fight about Rigondeaux were disgusting. Thats like breach of contract type stuff. Arum was honest, but he should have lied his ass off. The promoter is also in the business of marketing the guy and selling fights. He did Rigo no favors after the fight.


Arum has been showing positive racial bias to the Mexican, Hispanic, and Latin American and Latino fighter populations for years. He plays off of that because it makes money for him. Yes, I think Bob has some issues with racism toward African-American fighters. Even those that make money. HUGE Money. Bob Arum despises Floyd Mayweather and his management team with passionate hatred. This began years ago when Floyd was fighting on regular HBO and Floyd compared the money he was making from Arum to a slave wages contract. There are other fighters who have strong Mexican, Latin American, Latino base who have also severed ties with Arum. Delahoya for example.

Now Bob is saying things like, "Fans aren't stupid they want to see action, not some star fight tomato cans once every six months, but two-sided fights." Maybe so. However, Arum never said anything like that when he would for years promote PPV's with his stars against mediocre competition. It really boils down to a distrust from Arum no matter what. In his own words, "Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth."

Does Arum really create a racial issue with African-American versus Mexican fighters? Or is he negatively prejudiced to the style of the pure boxer, regardless of race, if he feels that said fighter does not make money for him. Examples would be Tim Bradley and now Rigondeax. Bob, maybe even subconsciously has been very disrespectful to their accomplishments, UNTIL Tim had that war with Ruslan. It stands to reason now, is Ringo going to be forced to have a war to gain Bob's respect? And if he doesn't have a war, will Bob throw him under the bus because he's a "boring boxer?"

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- daprofessor   is bob arum racist or imcompetent...   Apr 15 2013, 02:58 PM
- - Jovi   Rigondeaux/Moreno was a fight i was thinking of la...   Apr 15 2013, 03:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 03:24 PM) Rigo...   Apr 15 2013, 03:31 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure...   Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 0...   Apr 15 2013, 03:56 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 0...   Apr 15 2013, 05:24 PM
|- - Jovi   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 0...   Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM) The ...   Apr 15 2013, 07:28 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM) The ...   Apr 17 2013, 05:35 PM
- - mgrover   I don't get Arum, isn't he rich enough yet...   Apr 15 2013, 04:11 PM
- - Cshel86   Bob's an old senile douche, and has no problem...   Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM) B...   Apr 15 2013, 04:29 PM
- - BrutUalBK   I call it as I see it; if the wheel is round then ...   Apr 15 2013, 05:08 PM
- - mgrover   Rigos going to unfortunately pay the price for his...   Apr 15 2013, 05:34 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 15 2013, 05:34 PM) R...   Apr 15 2013, 06:52 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 12:52 A...   Apr 15 2013, 10:37 PM
- - Dolimite   I think he is racist and I hate to pull that card....   Apr 15 2013, 05:42 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 15 2013, 05:42 PM) ...   Apr 15 2013, 06:53 PM
- - bnoles4life   Delahoya, Haymon or whom the eff ever, needs to be...   Apr 15 2013, 06:17 PM
- - Cshel86   I'm curious as to how Bob would promote Broner...   Apr 15 2013, 08:43 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 15 2013, 09:43 PM) I...   Apr 15 2013, 09:03 PM
- - MaxPayne   He's simply a reluctant promoter when it comes...   Apr 16 2013, 05:48 AM
- - neophyte7   INTERESTING HOW ARUM IS THE "WHITE" DON ...   Apr 16 2013, 07:02 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 15 2013, 10:03 P...   Apr 16 2013, 07:45 AM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 08:45 AM) M...   Apr 16 2013, 08:56 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 08:45 AM) M...   Apr 16 2013, 01:33 PM
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|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 16 2013, 05:32 PM)...   Apr 17 2013, 06:18 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 17 2013, 06:18 AM) ...   Apr 17 2013, 03:32 PM
- - mrchitown   And didn't Arum say the same thing after a Flo...   Apr 16 2013, 11:23 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 17 2013, 12:23 AM)...   Apr 17 2013, 01:46 PM
- - VJones   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 15 2013, 02:58 P...   Apr 17 2013, 12:39 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (VJones @ Apr 17 2013, 01:39 AM) Bo...   Apr 17 2013, 01:47 PM
- - emd01   Arum is probably both but mostly it just drives hi...   Apr 17 2013, 07:50 AM
- - sduck   I don't necessarily think Arum is racist. It...   Apr 17 2013, 08:27 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (sduck @ Apr 17 2013, 09:27 AM) I d...   Apr 17 2013, 01:53 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 17 2013, 01:53 P...   Apr 17 2013, 03:35 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 07:58 P...   Apr 17 2013, 08:36 AM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2013, 07:16 PM) I...   Apr 17 2013, 10:14 PM
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- - Hotsauce   arum just being lazy. go out there and promote   Apr 18 2013, 12:12 AM
- - KOpower   The problem with Bradley is that the majority of t...   Apr 18 2013, 10:32 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (KOpower @ Apr 18 2013, 11:32 PM) T...   Apr 22 2013, 01:59 PM
- - VJones   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 08:22 P...   Apr 18 2013, 11:56 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (VJones @ Apr 19 2013, 12:56 AM) In...   Apr 19 2013, 01:38 PM
- - HazConvictedFelonMane   I think that Bob Arum is a racist in some sense of...   Apr 20 2013, 11:23 AM
|- - Amandla   There is gonna be a HELL of a party in Vegas when ...   Apr 21 2013, 08:38 PM
- - Dolimite   Long and short of it he is a bigoted Asshole!   Apr 23 2013, 11:59 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 22 2013, 02:59 P...   Apr 23 2013, 01:01 PM
- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 23 2013, 02:01 PM)...   Apr 23 2013, 01:33 PM


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