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> is bob arum racist or imcompetent..., when it comes to promoting black fighters?
daprofessor
post Apr 15 2013, 02:58 PM
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he's had some great black fighters over the years....but ali was a finished product that didn't need much marketing. same can be said for leonard. he guided floyd early in his career but imo did not promote floyd as well as he could have or half as much as he promoted dlh or pacquiao. is he just not in touch? or does he just not care? rigondeaux has displayed exceptional skill like we haven't seen in quite some time. this guy has some amazing accomplishments on his resume.

world unified champion in just 10 pro fights
2 time gold medalist
2 time pan am gold medalist
2 time world cup champion

had almost 400 fights as an amateur with only 12 losses and hasn't been defeated in 10yrs.

he just beat the fighter of the year '12 very convincingly and he's going to be a hard sell??? is arum serious? the opposition is out there for rigondeaux to stake his claim at greatness. we have an opportunity to see another truly great fighter accomplish great things.

fights i'd like to see that are very doable.

mares
moreno
agbeko
nishioka
darchinyan
wv2

if he should move up...
gary russell
mickey garcia

those are just off the top of my head. in my mind....we just saw a megafight. the two very best in the division and rigondeaux proved he was a level above the fighter of the year. so now he has to suffer because arum is either incompetent or racist? bullshit!!! push this guy!!! don't punish him for his greatness. give the fans what they deserve and stop with the bullshit agendas.

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post Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM
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Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure to promote black fighters is based on the color green. There is a huge market for Latino's, Pinnoys and the great White hope. The NFL and NBA have black sports demographics on lockdown. Its that simple.

I think some of the things he said after the fight about Rigondeaux were disgusting. Thats like breach of contract type stuff. Arum was honest, but he should have lied his ass off. The promoter is also in the business of marketing the guy and selling fights. He did Rigo no favors after the fight.
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post Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 04:37 PM) *
Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure to promote black fighters is based on the color green. There is a huge market for Latino's, Pinnoys and the great White hope. The NFL and NBA have black sports demographics on lockdown. Its that simple.

I think some of the things he said after the fight about Rigondeaux were disgusting. Thats like breach of contract type stuff. Arum was honest, but he should have lied his ass off. The promoter is also in the business of marketing the guy and selling fights. He did Rigo no favors after the fight.


The market does explain it. I wanted to say racist but more that he just hated Blacks because he still be riding on Latinos and Asians. I would say Pinnoys but he has taken a liking to Zou Shiming but it all has to do with that $$$.

NBA and NFL does have the demographic on lockdown, i think it has to do with how Commercial they are compared to Boxing. The rising Black stars is lacking compared to Basketball and Football and Boxing isn't on TV as much. On ESPN the only thing i hear on there is Floyd Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Its sad how much ESPN slacks on Boxing. And you dont really see boxers balling out like all these other sports stars. You have Floyd being Flashy actually showing you can get money in boxing (If he had Endorsements he would be killing it). Them showing Boxers with small houses in regular neighborhood isnt really motivating anyone to take the beating in the ring if they aint getting much money to ball out .

The least he could have said about Rigo was "He is the best at 122", just said he is skilled but not entertaining. What an idiot, he should have blamed the entertainment on Nonito being scared to throw punches because he either missed or got hit with that Left hand. But he the hate seems alittle apparent, this dude is a 2 time gold Medalist and dominated the champion at 122 and is now the New champ and the Best at 122 and is called not entertaining. He shouldn't even have commented on that. Disrespectful.

I either haven't read around enough but anyone who saw the fight just said that Rigo did his thing and Nonito didn't know what he was doing. Nonito even said he got schooled. I was even surprised when my Cousin was saying how those judge's cards were too BS, He's a Nonito fan and he's Filipino.
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post Apr 17 2013, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM) *
The market does explain it. I wanted to say racist but more that he just hated Blacks because he still be riding on Latinos and Asians. I would say Pinnoys but he has taken a liking to Zou Shiming but it all has to do with that $$$.

NBA and NFL does have the demographic on lockdown, i think it has to do with how Commercial they are compared to Boxing. The rising Black stars is lacking compared to Basketball and Football and Boxing isn't on TV as much. On ESPN the only thing i hear on there is Floyd Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Its sad how much ESPN slacks on Boxing. And you dont really see boxers balling out like all these other sports stars. You have Floyd being Flashy actually showing you can get money in boxing (If he had Endorsements he would be killing it). Them showing Boxers with small houses in regular neighborhood isnt really motivating anyone to take the beating in the ring if they aint getting much money to ball out .

The least he could have said about Rigo was "He is the best at 122", just said he is skilled but not entertaining. What an idiot, he should have blamed the entertainment on Nonito being scared to throw punches because he either missed or got hit with that Left hand. But he the hate seems alittle apparent, this dude is a 2 time gold Medalist and dominated the champion at 122 and is now the New champ and the Best at 122 and is called not entertaining. He shouldn't even have commented on that. Disrespectful.

I either haven't read around enough but anyone who saw the fight just said that Rigo did his thing and Nonito didn't know what he was doing. Nonito even said he got schooled. I was even surprised when my Cousin was saying how those judge's cards were too BS, He's a Nonito fan and he's Filipino.


word first round draft picks be getting paid millions of dollars before they even play a game.

boxers don't get paid near that much when they are prospects.

thats why basketball and football are the biggest sports in the black community. in baseball you have to go through the minor legaue.
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- daprofessor   is bob arum racist or imcompetent...   Apr 15 2013, 02:58 PM
- - Jovi   Rigondeaux/Moreno was a fight i was thinking of la...   Apr 15 2013, 03:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 03:24 PM) Rigo...   Apr 15 2013, 03:31 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure...   Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 0...   Apr 15 2013, 03:56 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 0...   Apr 15 2013, 05:24 PM
|- - Jovi   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 0...   Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM) The ...   Apr 15 2013, 07:28 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM) The ...   Apr 17 2013, 05:35 PM
- - mgrover   I don't get Arum, isn't he rich enough yet...   Apr 15 2013, 04:11 PM
- - Cshel86   Bob's an old senile douche, and has no problem...   Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM) B...   Apr 15 2013, 04:29 PM
- - BrutUalBK   I call it as I see it; if the wheel is round then ...   Apr 15 2013, 05:08 PM
- - mgrover   Rigos going to unfortunately pay the price for his...   Apr 15 2013, 05:34 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 15 2013, 05:34 PM) R...   Apr 15 2013, 06:52 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 12:52 A...   Apr 15 2013, 10:37 PM
- - Dolimite   I think he is racist and I hate to pull that card....   Apr 15 2013, 05:42 PM
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- - bnoles4life   Delahoya, Haymon or whom the eff ever, needs to be...   Apr 15 2013, 06:17 PM
- - Cshel86   I'm curious as to how Bob would promote Broner...   Apr 15 2013, 08:43 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 15 2013, 09:43 PM) I...   Apr 15 2013, 09:03 PM
- - MaxPayne   He's simply a reluctant promoter when it comes...   Apr 16 2013, 05:48 AM
- - neophyte7   INTERESTING HOW ARUM IS THE "WHITE" DON ...   Apr 16 2013, 07:02 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 15 2013, 10:03 P...   Apr 16 2013, 07:45 AM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 08:45 AM) M...   Apr 16 2013, 08:56 AM
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- - mrchitown   And didn't Arum say the same thing after a Flo...   Apr 16 2013, 11:23 PM
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- - emd01   Arum is probably both but mostly it just drives hi...   Apr 17 2013, 07:50 AM
- - sduck   I don't necessarily think Arum is racist. It...   Apr 17 2013, 08:27 AM
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- - Hotsauce   arum just being lazy. go out there and promote   Apr 18 2013, 12:12 AM
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- - HazConvictedFelonMane   I think that Bob Arum is a racist in some sense of...   Apr 20 2013, 11:23 AM
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- - Dolimite   Long and short of it he is a bigoted Asshole!   Apr 23 2013, 11:59 AM
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