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> is bob arum racist or imcompetent..., when it comes to promoting black fighters?
daprofessor
post Apr 15 2013, 02:58 PM
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he's had some great black fighters over the years....but ali was a finished product that didn't need much marketing. same can be said for leonard. he guided floyd early in his career but imo did not promote floyd as well as he could have or half as much as he promoted dlh or pacquiao. is he just not in touch? or does he just not care? rigondeaux has displayed exceptional skill like we haven't seen in quite some time. this guy has some amazing accomplishments on his resume.

world unified champion in just 10 pro fights
2 time gold medalist
2 time pan am gold medalist
2 time world cup champion

had almost 400 fights as an amateur with only 12 losses and hasn't been defeated in 10yrs.

he just beat the fighter of the year '12 very convincingly and he's going to be a hard sell??? is arum serious? the opposition is out there for rigondeaux to stake his claim at greatness. we have an opportunity to see another truly great fighter accomplish great things.

fights i'd like to see that are very doable.

mares
moreno
agbeko
nishioka
darchinyan
wv2

if he should move up...
gary russell
mickey garcia

those are just off the top of my head. in my mind....we just saw a megafight. the two very best in the division and rigondeaux proved he was a level above the fighter of the year. so now he has to suffer because arum is either incompetent or racist? bullshit!!! push this guy!!! don't punish him for his greatness. give the fans what they deserve and stop with the bullshit agendas.

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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 17 2013, 12:35 PM) *
All truth in this statement...I hope he does something good with that kid Crawford, I see good things in his future

If his last name was Cruz he would be fighting for a major title.
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post Apr 17 2013, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 17 2013, 09:44 PM) *
If his last name was Cruz he would be fighting for a major title.


I sadly have to agree with that. I do see alot of people including Arum saying that boxing is a mexican sport now and to an extent it's somewhat true but not to toot the horn of my own race, but the blacks are the best fighters in the sport
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post Apr 17 2013, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 17 2013, 10:15 PM) *
I sadly have to agree with that. I do see alot of people including Arum saying that boxing is a mexican sport now and to an extent it's somewhat true but not to toot the horn of my own race, but the blacks are the best fighters in the sport


true. i wish black fighters got support like mexican and puerto rico fighters.
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post Apr 17 2013, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Apr 17 2013, 10:35 PM) *
true. i wish black fighters got support like mexican and puerto rico fighters.


So do I, I do agree that the hispanic demographic is big in boxing but when I listen to people like Arum talk it just makes it seem like that's the only demographic to cater to. It's more so a promoter issue then a fan issue

Arum does strike me as racist, but I never met the man so I can't say that in truth, just an observation

Arum has complained in the past that itís a tough job promoting Cuban fighters in the U.S. ďCuban Olympic champions canít sell out the front row of a dancehall in Miami,Ē he once said. Black Cuban fighters, he said, get virtually no support from white Cuban-Amereicans or African-Americans. Although Arum, 81, has never showed even a trace of senility, advancing age has made him more frank in his observations.

This is what he recently said about Rigo, if your such a masterful promoter like he always says he can find a way to market any product, the man is full of shit
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post Apr 18 2013, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 18 2013, 12:55 AM) *
So do I, I do agree that the hispanic demographic is big in boxing but when I listen to people like Arum talk it just makes it seem like that's the only demographic to cater to. It's more so a promoter issue then a fan issue

Arum does strike me as racist, but I never met the man so I can't say that in truth, just an observation

Arum has complained in the past that itís a tough job promoting Cuban fighters in the U.S. ďCuban Olympic champions canít sell out the front row of a dancehall in Miami,Ē he once said. Black Cuban fighters, he said, get virtually no support from white Cuban-Amereicans or African-Americans. Although Arum, 81, has never showed even a trace of senility, advancing age has made him more frank in his observations.

This is what he recently said about Rigo, if your such a masterful promoter like he always says he can find a way to market any product, the man is full of shit


bottom line...this guy is not in touch with shit....like most racists.
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post Apr 18 2013, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 01:48 PM) *
bottom line...this guy is not in touch with shit....like most racists.


He has no filter, and 81yr old man who can't even articulate himself well. And the guy went to Harvard, his favorite word is delusional, I've heard him use it many of times but he needs to take a step back and re-evaluate himself and the comments he males. Rigo has plenty of options if you ask me, they need to promote him. He just beat a highly skilled and popular fighter in Donaire, and now your telling us that there's nothing you can do to get him fights? Notice he always says something along these lines when his cash cows get defeated
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- daprofessor   is bob arum racist or imcompetent...   Apr 15 2013, 02:58 PM
- - Jovi   Rigondeaux/Moreno was a fight i was thinking of la...   Apr 15 2013, 03:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 03:24 PM) Rigo...   Apr 15 2013, 03:31 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure...   Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM
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- - mgrover   I don't get Arum, isn't he rich enough yet...   Apr 15 2013, 04:11 PM
- - Cshel86   Bob's an old senile douche, and has no problem...   Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM) B...   Apr 15 2013, 04:29 PM
- - BrutUalBK   I call it as I see it; if the wheel is round then ...   Apr 15 2013, 05:08 PM
- - mgrover   Rigos going to unfortunately pay the price for his...   Apr 15 2013, 05:34 PM
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- - Dolimite   I think he is racist and I hate to pull that card....   Apr 15 2013, 05:42 PM
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- - bnoles4life   Delahoya, Haymon or whom the eff ever, needs to be...   Apr 15 2013, 06:17 PM
- - Cshel86   I'm curious as to how Bob would promote Broner...   Apr 15 2013, 08:43 PM
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