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> Rigondeau's skill and ring intelligence is on par with Mayweather's
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post Apr 15 2013, 11:14 PM
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I was totally blown away by Rigondeaux's skill and intelligence. Who saw that move where he stepped into Donaire's right hand punch and jammed it with his shoulder and then stepped back to avoid the left hook? Just fucking beautiful! Are there any other fighters that do that? Rigondeaux did this 3 times, once to bump Donaire of balance and then escape. Mayweather was my favorite fighter and now it's Rigondeaux! What other subtle skills did you guys pick up?
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post Apr 17 2013, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (Aware @ Apr 16 2013, 09:38 PM) *
Has Mayweather fought a better quality opponent than Donaire? I.e. a p4p fighter in their prime that is bigger than him. Corrales is not as good as Donaire imo. Is JL Castillo as good as Donaire? Also, how easy does Rigondeaux beat Pacquiao at 122? Donaire is clearly better in the skill department than Pacquiao.

Genaro Hernandez

QUOTE (dre98 @ Apr 16 2013, 11:08 PM) *
Guerrero dad imitation of floyd and roger:

http://www.boxingscene.com/video-guerreros...-routine--64496




lol and you know who else tried to mock him and then got schooled.
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post Apr 17 2013, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (sduck @ Apr 17 2013, 09:07 AM) *
Genaro Hernandez


lol and you know who else tried to mock him and then got schooled.


I was thinking Genaro as well...zab judah has good skills as well...just fades...Mosley has the skills but then again i take dat back because he is more of a brawler


yea ricky hatton.
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post Apr 17 2013, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (dre98 @ Apr 17 2013, 02:52 PM) *
I was thinking Genaro as well...zab judah has good skills as well...just fades...Mosley has the skills but then again i take dat back because he is more of a brawler


yea ricky hatton.


genaro (rip) zab and hatton were never as highly regarded as donaire. i don't think any of them ever won fighter of the year or were that high up on the pound for pound rankings.
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post Apr 17 2013, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 17 2013, 02:03 PM) *
genaro (rip) zab and hatton were never as highly regarded as donaire. i don't think any of them ever won fighter of the year or were that high up on the pound for pound rankings.


I think Zab was more skilled then Donaire back in his day, if he could've won at least 1 of the perceived "BIG" fights this wouldn't be a conversation. I see what you and dude are saying but Donaire is more highly regarded as you said then skilled to me, and that's saying alot because Donaire is a higlhly skilled figher hell I rate Shane above Donaire skill wise..part of the reason Donaire won fight of the year was because the media fell in love with his yr round drug testing....and I can;t agree with Rigo trumping either of the best W's for Ward or Mayweather..skill wise Dawson is a beast, he's just a mental midget.
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post Apr 17 2013, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 17 2013, 04:30 PM) *
I think Zab was more skilled then Donaire back in his day, if he could've won at least 1 of the perceived "BIG" fights this wouldn't be a conversation. I see what you and dude are saying but Donaire is more highly regarded as you said then skilled to me, and that's saying alot because Donaire is a higlhly skilled figher hell I rate Shane above Donaire skill wise..part of the reason Donaire won fight of the year was because the media fell in love with his yr round drug testing....and I can;t agree with Rigo trumping either of the best W's for Ward or Mayweather..skill wise Dawson is a beast, he's just a mental midget.



i disagree. zab has never been on the level with donaire. he's had some great wins...but i think donaire has more skill and accomplishment.

shane...u could make the case at 135...he was unbeatable at the time. above 135...he was just a little above average.

the thing to consider here....nonito move up in weight and his best year came last year where he got the fighter of the year award for his 4 wins. i thought jmm should have been awarded fighter of the year...and u could have made a case for guerrero as well....but i think his four wins moreso than his testing won him that award.

like aware said...wards win over dawson is diminished by the weight drain.

floyds win over zab is diminished by the fact that he lost to baldomir right before he fought floyd. i think floyds best win was against corrales.

i think rigondeaux's win over donaire trumps all of those wins.
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