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post Apr 18 2013, 05:45 PM
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Ruben Guerrero: Mayweather Getting Beat Up in Sparring
Posted by: Rick Reeno on 4/18/2013 .




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Ruben Guerrero, the outspoken father/trainer of Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero (31-1-1, 18KOs), tells BoxingScene.com that he heard rumblings that Floyd Mayweather Jr. (43-0, 26Kos) is getting worked over by his sparring partners. Guerrero challenges Mayweather on May 4th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Showtime Pay-Per-View will televise.

Both Mayweather and Guerrero are holding their training camps in Las Vegas. Ruben believes his information is valid, because on Wednesday at a media workout at the Mayweather Boxing Club - it was pretty clear that Mayweather was sporting a bruise under his right eye.

"I seen that black eye on him. If he thinks he's getting beat up in sparring wait until May 4. He's gonna get a real beatdown [that day]. He better be ready that's all I'm saying because Robert wants this. He's ready and he's a warrior with Mexican blood. We fight till the death. Robert wants to put a beating on this guy and its gonna take every Mayweather in that ring to beat my son. And if the father wants a old school beating I have one for him too. Viva Mexico! Viva California! Viva Texas! We want this! Let's go," Ruben said.

Ruben says he is not intimidated by going against the training duo of Floyd Mayweather Sr. and his brother Roger Mayweather.

"If you got two trainers you got nothing. Floyd Sr. is a puppet, all he does is talk. Roger is the real trainer who does mitts and everything. The other guy is a cheerleader man. What type of head trainer doesn't do mitts with his fighter? Lil Floyd Jr. just feels bad cause he treated his father like sh*t on TV. If I were Roger I wouldn't allow these fools to do that. He trained Floyd Jr. his whole career and the other guy is here for the paycheck," Ruben said.

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post Apr 19 2013, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 06:06 PM) *
It could mean a whole range of things if it was true. But that's a big if. Maybe it would explain how come they'd didn't film any sparring this time around? But if it was true, it really needs to be put into context, you know what Floyds like, does crazy rounds for crazy amount of time with fresh opposition when he himself is tired as. I mean remember when Floyd fractured a rib before the Marquez fight. Nothing new.

12lb in 30 days is nothing, any idea what Floyds was at?


Floyd generally doesn't allow cameras during sparring, so that's not new. At the 30 day mark, he weighed in at 148.2. He's at fighting weight, able to eat whatever he wants. But that's not new either. He walks around in the low 50s, so fighting at welter affords him a generous diet.

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 06:30 PM) *
i will give ruben this....this is the most shit i've ever seen anyone talk to floyd and his camp ever. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) either he's crazy....or he's a genius. we'll find out come may 4th.


True...so true. Lol. 'Course, it's no secret, I'm leaning towards, he's just crazy. Lol

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 06:32 PM) *
floyd has 3 sparring partners....

errol spence, sechew powell and jesus gonzalez. word is that gonzalez is giving him the best work.

there's a fine line between training someone to a peak...and over doing it. with more than one cook in the kitchen...this may be an issue. from an interview i saw earlier today from roger...he says he's the one steering the ship. i know floyd wants the whole family involved...i hope it's a good thing. jeff is down in panama. we'll see what happens come fight night.

on guerrero's side...i've seen guerrero and his pops work. honestly..i've always got the feeling that guerrero trains himself. his pops definitely pushes him though.


Jeff has always been the glue...so hopefully his presence will help it all come together.

Floyd also used Joseph Elegele. And of course some of his own fighters, like Arias.


QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 07:34 PM) *
he may be bigger...but his shots aren't as fluid as guerrero's. i'm not sure the sparring is going to help him much. i'd be eager to see who guerrero is using for sparring. it works both ways.


Guerrero's sparring partners are ok, but not great. On the other hand, who do you get when you face FM...if only Rigo was bigger or Ward smaller. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I think there are only two...Lonnie Smith and Jesus Gutierrez.

QUOTE (JammyJam @ Apr 18 2013, 08:51 PM) *
Whoever hit him, hit him good! Errol Spence is the Mayweather and Broner killer apparently lol. I don't truly believe he is gettin his ass beat but i'm sure he is gettin touched up a bit. He is sparring some quality guys and i'm sure he is trying different things in there that get him caught. Plus, we've heard stories about Mayweather taking L's in the past... Spadafora, the asian dude, lamont peterson. Maybe i'm wrong though...


If anyone outside of the Guerrero camp started this rumor....maybe it would have some credence. But seriously, Guerrero Sr. "Heard"....after he saw the same bruise we could all see and hypothesize that Floyd is putting in serious work or Roger nicked him with a pad or he got caught with a punch or a head butt or thumbed.

Maybe he is getting worked by his sparring partners....but I certainly won't believe it based on Team Guerrero's word. Sounds like mind games to me.

Not to mention Errol has debunked (several times) the Broner knockout story. He also says Floyd is killing it in training and will run through Guerrero. Of course, it's not lost on me that he's supposed to say that.

But I believe him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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- BrutUalBK   Floyd getting worked in sparring??   Apr 18 2013, 05:45 PM
- - flazi   the harder the training the easier the fight.   Apr 18 2013, 05:56 PM
- - VJones   Yeah...not so much. Lack of credibility with ...   Apr 18 2013, 05:57 PM
- - mgrover   It could mean a whole range of things if it was tr...   Apr 18 2013, 06:06 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 06:06 PM) I...   Apr 18 2013, 07:42 PM
- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Apr 18 2013, 06:45 PM)...   Apr 18 2013, 06:30 PM
- - daprofessor   floyd has 3 sparring partners.... errol spence, s...   Apr 18 2013, 06:32 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 06:06 PM) I...   Apr 18 2013, 06:36 PM
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- - BrutUalBK   Well I remember a certain DLH getting worked by ti...   Apr 18 2013, 06:53 PM
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- - JammyJam   Whoever hit him, hit him good! Errol Spence is...   Apr 18 2013, 08:51 PM
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