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Garcia vs. Judah
Who Wins?
Garcia by close decision [ 2 ] ** [13.33%]
Garcia by wide decision [ 2 ] ** [13.33%]
Garcia by KO/TKO [ 6 ] ** [40.00%]
Judah by close decision [ 2 ] ** [13.33%]
Judah by wide decision [ 1 ] ** [6.67%]
Judah by KO/TKO [ 2 ] ** [13.33%]
Draw [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
DQ (Indicate Loser in Response) [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Total Votes: 15
  
daprofessor
post Apr 19 2013, 08:02 PM
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VJones
post Apr 26 2013, 04:03 PM
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Golden Boy is notorious for trying to give their fighters an advantage with these kinds of slights to the opponent (most recently, Austin Trout can testify to two fights (Cotto & Nelo) worth of underhanded dealings with GBP. It's shameful, really.

Zab was absolutely within reason to blow up (they wouldn't even allow his wife and children in the press conference)...and to aim his angst at El Presidenta...because make no mistake, when it comes to that kind of sneaky crap...that's Handbook De La Hoya.

The funny thing is...this time, DLH wasn't playing mind games. They (GBP and Team Garcia) really were fearful that something was gonna fly off. Not so much between Zab and Danny on stage, but with Zab's official and "unofficial" crew and Team Garcia. Because things have gotten gritty in the past few days. Angel in particular seems to feel threatened, despite what he's saying publicly. To borrow from someone: "He was shook". Apparently, he feels, threats were made to his life by "unofficial" members of Team Judah. And that's why he was extra agitated at yesterday's press conference. He seems legitimately fearful...and Danny seems wound tight because of it.

Meanwhile, Judah feels like Angel got away with calling him the N-word in the first press conference. He feels disrespected, and though he claims to have left his street life in his past...the street (and more importantly, the rules of the street) is still strong in him.

Judah (back in BK and bolstered by his people there) has a certain "element" of supporters willing to do what he will/can-not. Not that I'm suggesting that Judah has set anything in motion. Because I think he really does want to be a different person..but as I said, the street is strong in him. And some things are somewhat out of his control.

Anyway...all of this tension is really selling this fight. Lol. And unlike some of the previous boxing "beefs" over the years...this one is legitimate. And it has the potential to spill out of the ring. Smh. Hope we don't see that.

Angel Garcia is incendiary, to say the least...but I think this situation has manifested into something much uglier than the normal back and forth. As a caveat, Angel really needs to be careful what he says in the build up to his son's fights. Racist and/or borderline racist rants never go over well.

As for my prediction. Well, if Zab was a different psychological archetype, based on all of these happenings, I'd actually give him the mental edge. But we just never know what we're dealing with when it comes to Judah...so I'm kind of on the fence.

Never-the-less, I'll take the plunge...A "super" Judah shows up tomorrow, with all of the advantages (experience, speed, power, ring generalship, crowd...and get this...poise)...add to that, an unusually unpoised Danny Garcia (full of emotion and nervous energy...gunning unsuccessfully for Judah's head). UD12 Judah. With a KD in the 5th and 7th.

#TeamUpset =)

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post Apr 26 2013, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (VJones @ Apr 26 2013, 05:03 PM) *
Golden Boy is notorious for trying to give their fighters an advantage with these kinds of slights to the opponent (most recently, Austin Trout can testify to two fights (Cotto & Nelo) worth of underhanded dealings with GBP. It's shameful, really.

Zab was absolutely within reason to blow up (they wouldn't even allow his wife and children in the press conference)...and to aim his angst at El Presidenta...because make no mistake, when it comes to that kind of sneaky crap...that's Handbook De La Hoya.

The funny thing is...this time, DLH wasn't playing mind games. They (GBP and Team Garcia) really were fearful that something was gonna fly off. Not so much between Zab and Danny on stage, but with Zab's official and "unofficial" crew and Team Garcia. Because things have gotten gritty in the past few days. Angel in particular seems to feel threatened, despite what he's saying publicly. To borrow from someone: "He was shook". Apparently, he feels, threats were made to his life by "unofficial" members of Team Judah. And that's why he was extra agitated at yesterday's press conference. He seems legitimately fearful...and Danny seems wound tight because of it.

Meanwhile, Judah feels like Angel got away with calling him the N-word in the first press conference. He feels disrespected, and though he claims to have left his street life in his past...the street (and more importantly, the rules of the street) is still strong in him.

Judah (back in BK and bolstered by his people there) has a certain "element" of supporters willing to do what he will/can-not. Not that I'm suggesting that Judah has set anything in motion. Because I think he really does want to be a different person..but as I said, the street is strong in him. And some things are somewhat out of his control.

Anyway...all of this tension is really selling this fight. Lol. And unlike some of the previous boxing "beefs" over the years...this one is legitimate. And it has the potential to spill out of the ring. Smh. Hope we don't see that.

Angel Garcia is incendiary, to say the least...but I think this situation has manifested into something much uglier than the normal back and forth. As a caveat, Angel really needs to be careful what he says in the build up to his son's fights. Racist and/or borderline racist rants never go over well.

As for my prediction. Well, if Zab was a different psychological archetype, based on all of these happenings, I'd actually give him the mental edge. But we just never know what we're dealing with when it comes to Judah...so I'm kind of on the fence.

Never-the-less, I'll take the plunge...A "super" Judah shows up tomorrow, with all of the advantages (experience, speed, power, ring generalship, crowd...and get this...poise)...add to that, an unusually unpoised Danny Garcia (full of emotion and nervous energy...gunning unsuccessfully for Judah's head). UD12 Judah. With a KD in the 5th and 7th.

#TeamUpset =)


remind me to hire u for p.r. work. excellent analysis.

i was originally picking danny by ko. now i'm thinking this fight goes the distance.
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post Apr 26 2013, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 26 2013, 05:20 PM) *
remind me to hire u for p.r. work. excellent analysis.

i was originally picking danny by ko. now i'm thinking this fight goes the distance.

Right! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I still think Judah gets finished in this one. Right now, both guys have this heightened sense of whatever tha fuck. Lol

Judah's already over emotional and ready to go in there and knock Danny out...we ALL know what happens when you go into the fight looking for a knockout...chances are, you'll be the victim of your own intentions. Danny on the other hand, may be more worried about what happens AFTER the fight, so he'll have no choice but to be focused on the fight itself, after the first bell rings.

Judah seems to have had a bit of trouble making weight, and so did Kid Chopped-Tooth and whiney Guerrero.
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post Apr 26 2013, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 26 2013, 07:05 PM) *
Right! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I still think Judah gets finished in this one. Right now, both guys have this heightened sense of whatever tha fuck. Lol

Judah's already over emotional and ready to go in there and knock Danny out...we ALL know what happens when you go into the fight looking for a knockout...chances are, you'll be the victim of your own intentions. Danny on the other hand, may be more worried about what happens AFTER the fight, so he'll have no choice but to be focused on the fight itself, after the first bell rings.

Judah seems to have had a bit of trouble making weight, and so did Kid Chopped-Tooth and whiney Guerrero.


idk. judah has seemed to come to a calm state. it's danny that looks wound up and tense. we'll see what happens when the bell rings. i think the ring walks and the final face off at the center of the ring are very telling.

did quillen and guerrero make weight?
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post Apr 26 2013, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 26 2013, 09:37 PM) *
idk. judah has seemed to come to a calm state. it's danny that looks wound up and tense. we'll see what happens when the bell rings. i think the ring walks and the final face off at the center of the ring are very telling.

did quillen and guerrero make weight?

Cant wait til tomorrow night...we've all been waiting since Feb.

Quillin and Guerrero did make weight. Quillin sweated off that 1.5 lbs and Guerrero sweated off that .4 lbs. They said it took Judah two times to make 140, but he didn't need to take two hours and all.
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post Apr 26 2013, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 26 2013, 10:12 PM) *
Cant wait til tomorrow night...we've all been waiting since Feb.

Quillin and Guerrero did make weight. Quillin sweated off that 1.5 lbs and Guerrero sweated off that .4 lbs. They said it took Judah two times to make 140, but he didn't need to take two hours and all.


i saw it. he took off his socks and draws and hit 140 on the nose.
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- daprofessor   Danny Garcia vs. Zab Judah Preview and Poll!   Apr 19 2013, 08:02 PM
- - daprofessor   am i the only one excited about this fight? i...   Apr 19 2013, 08:45 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 19 2013, 09:45 P...   Apr 19 2013, 09:24 PM
- - mrchitown   Nah, your not the only one...I've been excited...   Apr 19 2013, 10:06 PM
- - Franchize   I just want to see a competitive fight. I just wan...   Apr 19 2013, 10:18 PM
- - Cshel86   Trust, I'm excited about this one. I was just ...   Apr 19 2013, 10:59 PM
- - Jack 1000   Thanks! Will make it a preview thread and add...   Apr 19 2013, 11:39 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   I would like to see Zab put on a great performance...   Apr 20 2013, 04:00 AM
- - aTYpicalTYrant   "Take off the Janet Jackson Hat" has to ...   Apr 20 2013, 07:21 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Apr 20 2013, 08:2...   Apr 22 2013, 02:06 PM
- - emd01   I'm going with Judah by KO/TKO. I think Garcia...   Apr 20 2013, 12:00 PM
- - Jack 1000   My vote is Garcia by wide decision. Judah I still...   Apr 20 2013, 12:50 PM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 12:51 PM) I...   Apr 20 2013, 01:55 PM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 02:55 PM) W...   Apr 20 2013, 04:48 PM
- - Cshel86   Cant wait for Quillin/Guerrero! I cant stand ...   Apr 22 2013, 03:09 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 22 2013, 04:09 PM) C...   Apr 22 2013, 03:57 PM
- - Dolimite   I voted for Judah! I am going with my heart on...   Apr 23 2013, 11:53 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 23 2013, 12:53 PM) ...   Apr 23 2013, 01:44 PM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 23 2013, 02:52 PM) I...   Apr 23 2013, 02:00 PM
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