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Jack 1000
post Apr 20 2013, 03:12 PM
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Catch all the action and post-fight reactions to the Alvarez-Trout world Jr. Middleweight Championship Unification tonight! Keep everything in this thread.

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post Apr 20 2013, 06:11 PM
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Trout better go for the gusto tonight...no time for bullshit and playing the people's champ role. I need a Ortiz/Berto round 1 from Trout, nothing less.

If he hurts Canelo, then he needs to follow up "effectively". Some guys get hurt early and actually get into the fight, and some struggle to recover, leading to an eventual TKO or loss on the cards.

Trout needs to use his jab and keep this dude off of him, because he will take a few shots just to get his own off. As we all know, Canelo hasn't been in there with a true 154 pounder, so the way he takes the shots and weight from his opponent, remains to be seen.

Canelo's fight is against the ropes, and his defense is a bit underrated. At the same time, it's not all that hard to find him either. Trout mentioned that down the stretch of the fight, Canelo tends to slow down. Well, Trout tends to take a couple of rounds off as well, so the breaking point may be the midpoint of the fight, if nothing crazy happens by the 5th.

I like Canelo's combination punches, which he's great at when his opponent stays in front of him too long. Since Trout is known to move during fights, I wonder what adjustments Canelo will make if that happens. Maybe slow him down with the body punches?

Canelo's best bet is to slow Trout down to the body, while Trout's best bet is to stick to his jab and follow up effectively with it. My biggest hopes here, is that both guys wont simultaneously use their weapons, or else we're in for a boring fight, which Trout is great at making. Lol

Trout AND his corner needs to watch out for the skullduggery that Texas doesn't mind serving up. His team needs to stay out of the ring until it's safe to step in, in the event that a knockdown or a damn near close stoppage occurs. Remember what happened in the Kirkland/Molina fight? And Molina is Hispanic for fuck's sake. They better not even leave a drop of water in the corner between rounds. Lol

I say that Trout takes this by a UD, possibly 7-5, which is usually the breaking point of a robbery happening because the other guy being awarded 7-5 for a close fight...ask Manny about that (Bradley fight). Anytime I hear 115-113, I start to worry. Lol. Canelo's not a "distance" fighter (fighting great down the stretch), and Trout is formidable opponent who will test him down the stretch, so we'll see.

Though I voted for a UD in favor of Trout, I feel Canelo upsetting the apple cart, just because I don't like him very much. Maybe a TKO in the 5th, or no later than the 7th if Trout gets reckless (maybe because of the crowd).

PS: Let's all pray that no "bad" cuts occur during this bout. Anybody ready to see Figuroa (sp) vs Abner Cotto??? I know I am.
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post Apr 20 2013, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 06:11 PM) *
Trout better go for the gusto tonight...no time for bullshit and playing the people's champ role. I need a Ortiz/Berto round 1 from Trout, nothing less.

If he hurts Canelo, then he needs to follow up "effectively". Some guys get hurt early and actually get into the fight, and some struggle to recover, leading to an eventual TKO or loss on the cards.

Trout needs to use his jab and keep this dude off of him, because he will take a few shots just to get his own off. As we all know, Canelo hasn't been in there with a true 154 pounder, so the way he takes the shots and weight from his opponent, remains to be seen.

Canelo's fight is against the ropes, and his defense is a bit underrated. At the same time, it's not all that hard to find him either. Trout mentioned that down the stretch of the fight, Canelo tends to slow down. Well, Trout tends to take a couple of rounds off as well, so the breaking point may be the midpoint of the fight, if nothing crazy happens by the 5th.

I like Canelo's combination punches, which he's great at when his opponent stays in front of him too long. Since Trout is known to move during fights, I wonder what adjustments Canelo will make if that happens. Maybe slow him down with the body punches?

Canelo's best bet is to slow Trout down to the body, while Trout's best bet is to stick to his jab and follow up effectively with it. My biggest hopes here, is that both guys wont simultaneously use their weapons, or else we're in for a boring fight, which Trout is great at making. Lol

Trout AND his corner needs to watch out for the skullduggery that Texas doesn't mind serving up. His team needs to stay out of the ring until it's safe to step in, in the event that a knockdown or a damn near close stoppage occurs. Remember what happened in the Kirkland/Molina fight? And Molina is Hispanic for fuck's sake. They better not even leave a drop of water in the corner between rounds. Lol

I say that Trout takes this by a UD, possibly 7-5, which is usually the breaking point of a robbery happening because the other guy being awarded 7-5 for a close fight...ask Manny about that (Bradley fight). Anytime I hear 115-113, I start to worry. Lol. Canelo's not a "distance" fighter (fighting great down the stretch), and Trout is formidable opponent who will test him down the stretch, so we'll see.

Though I voted for a UD in favor of Trout, I feel Canelo upsetting the apple cart, just because I don't like him very much. Maybe a TKO in the 5th, or no later than the 7th if Trout gets reckless (maybe because of the crowd).

PS: Let's all pray that no "bad" cuts occur during this bout. Anybody ready to see Figuroa (sp) vs Abner Cotto??? I know I am.


WOW!

Cshel, did you post that right? Trout by UD 7-5? (115-113-no points off or knockdowns.)

I think Trout will in the eyes of most 116-112 to 115-113, but will lose a SD to Alvarez.

One judge will go 115-113 Trout
The other will go 115-113 Alvarez
The Texas designated judge will go a ridiculous 117-111 for Alvarez.

Cole, that little Texas commission Daddy's influence is gonna let Alvarez do his thing just like Lou Moret let Guerrero get away with anything during the Berto fight. This will be just as bad. Better not have Trout get a cut eye or some shit. The doctor could look to stop it over a little nothing scrap. And Suliman and "Grin Boy" Delahoya will be so happy! I hate Delhaoy's grin!!! He's be the kind of guy that would sit there with that grin at a funeral. He's been grinning since this fight was signed. Why would he let Alvarez take a hard fight with Trout unless something's up?

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- Jack 1000   Showtime@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT)-Alveraz vs. Trout: SPOILERS   Apr 20 2013, 03:12 PM
- - flazi   laurence cole is ref. that means trout is against...   Apr 20 2013, 04:17 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (flazi @ Apr 20 2013, 04:17 PM) lau...   Apr 20 2013, 05:33 PM
- - Cshel86   Trout better go for the gusto tonight...no time fo...   Apr 20 2013, 06:11 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 06:11 PM) T...   Apr 20 2013, 06:38 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Apr 20 2013, 07:38 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 07:01 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 07:01 PM) S...   Apr 20 2013, 07:05 PM
- - Amandla   I'm rooting for Trout (like I said in the othe...   Apr 20 2013, 06:28 PM
- - mgrover   Does the fight start at 3am in the UK? or is that ...   Apr 20 2013, 06:29 PM
- - mgrover   Trout needs to dominate something like 9-3 to win   Apr 20 2013, 06:47 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 06:47 PM) T...   Apr 20 2013, 07:02 PM
|- - aTYpicalTYrant   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 07:47 PM) T...   Apr 20 2013, 07:02 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Apr 20 2013, 07:0...   Apr 20 2013, 07:08 PM
- - leonthegee   SHOEX bout to start that shit.   Apr 20 2013, 07:07 PM
- - mgrover   this needs to start lol   Apr 20 2013, 07:16 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Apr 20 2013, 08:05 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 07:25 PM
- - Cshel86   Gotta love the Charlo twins, these young guys are ...   Apr 20 2013, 07:59 PM
- - Cshel86   Charlo's left hook is nasty! It's well...   Apr 20 2013, 08:02 PM
- - Cshel86   Lora's face looks like ground chuck right now ...   Apr 20 2013, 08:05 PM
- - Cshel86   Charlo almost out Lora down in the 5th with that o...   Apr 20 2013, 08:09 PM
- - Cshel86   Well nevermind, his corner stopped it. Lora neve...   Apr 20 2013, 08:11 PM
- - Cshel86   I always thought the Alamode dome was outside. Hmm...   Apr 20 2013, 09:05 PM
- - mgrover   who knows, all i know is that is 3am, am tired as ...   Apr 20 2013, 09:09 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 10:09 PM) w...   Apr 20 2013, 09:12 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 21 2013, 03:12 AM) J...   Apr 20 2013, 09:14 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 10:14 PM) n...   Apr 20 2013, 09:18 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 21 2013, 03:18 AM) T...   Apr 20 2013, 09:19 PM
- - Franchize   Trout has seemed incredibly poised and relaxed sin...   Apr 20 2013, 09:10 PM
- - aTYpicalTYrant   too many folks at my boys house... I'm going h...   Apr 20 2013, 09:11 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Apr 21 2013, 03:1...   Apr 20 2013, 09:15 PM
- - Franchize   Why does Figueroa look so nervous?   Apr 20 2013, 09:15 PM
- - Franchize   Figueroa's trunks and kicks are dope   Apr 20 2013, 09:17 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 10:17 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 09:20 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:20 PM) M...   Apr 20 2013, 09:26 PM
- - Franchize   What a terrible fight lmao. Looks like a deer figh...   Apr 20 2013, 09:19 PM
- - Cshel86   Had to tweet "Shut up" to fat ass Dan Ra...   Apr 20 2013, 09:29 PM
- - mrchitown   Sees Guerrero on my tv, turns back to Bulls game t...   Apr 20 2013, 09:30 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 20 2013, 10:30 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 09:32 PM
||- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:32 PM) I...   Apr 20 2013, 09:33 PM
|||- - BigDDatHomey   QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 09:33 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 09:35 PM
|||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 10:33 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 09:36 PM
||- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 09:32 PM) I...   Apr 20 2013, 09:38 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 20 2013, 10:30 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 09:32 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 09:32 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 09:36 PM
- - Plah   Hello ya'll Trout 8-4   Apr 20 2013, 09:42 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 20 2013, 10:38 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 09:46 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 09:46 PM) ...   Apr 20 2013, 09:50 PM
- - Franchize   Didnt Trout fight Cotto at MSG? I don't think ...   Apr 20 2013, 09:49 PM
- - Franchize   I swear I have to shit before EVERY big fight lol ...   Apr 20 2013, 09:50 PM
- - mrchitown   Da F*ck Franchize???   Apr 20 2013, 09:51 PM
- - Cshel86   They're making it seem like those 38,000 seats...   Apr 20 2013, 09:51 PM
|- - aTYpicalTYrant   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:51 PM) T...   Apr 20 2013, 09:53 PM
- - Cshel86   I cant even see this chick's face in the black...   Apr 20 2013, 09:52 PM
- - mrchitown   What's this guy saying. Little help here guys   Apr 20 2013, 09:54 PM
- - Franchize   That was a quick ass moment of silence   Apr 20 2013, 09:54 PM
- - Cshel86   The fuckin' Mexican Lou Rawls is singing the a...   Apr 20 2013, 09:55 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:55 PM) T...   Apr 20 2013, 09:57 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 10:57 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 09:59 PM
- - BigFightFan   Is it 2 late to change my pick for this fight? Aus...   Apr 20 2013, 09:56 PM
- - Franchize   Im bout to crack open this wine. Yea, I'm gett...   Apr 20 2013, 09:58 PM
- - Cshel86   The only hard fight in Trout's career thus far...   Apr 20 2013, 10:01 PM
- - Hotsauce   yea trout ain't winning this   Apr 20 2013, 10:02 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Apr 20 2013, 10:02 PM) ...   Apr 20 2013, 10:06 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 20 2013, 10:06 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 10:07 PM
- - Franchize   Canelo has this Rick Flair/ Liberace swagger about...   Apr 20 2013, 10:03 PM
- - Franchize   Yo they're really doing Trout dirty for this f...   Apr 20 2013, 10:05 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 11:03 PM)...   Apr 20 2013, 10:06 PM
- - iKeNjiro   Regardless of what happens, respect to Canelo for ...   Apr 20 2013, 10:08 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (iKeNjiro @ Apr 20 2013, 11:08 PM) ...   Apr 20 2013, 10:09 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (iKeNjiro @ Apr 20 2013, 11:08 PM) ...   Apr 20 2013, 10:09 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (iKeNjiro @ Apr 20 2013, 10:08 PM) ...   Apr 20 2013, 10:09 PM
- - Franchize   Trout looks huge   Apr 20 2013, 10:08 PM
- - BigFightFan   I like the Canelo slips side to side like a young ...   Apr 20 2013, 10:11 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Apr 20 2013, 11:11 P...   Apr 20 2013, 10:12 PM
- - KOpower   Solid round for Trout but not a great deal of acti...   Apr 20 2013, 10:13 PM
- - Amandla   i GOT 10-9 tROUT   Apr 20 2013, 10:13 PM
- - aTYpicalTYrant   10-9 Trout   Apr 20 2013, 10:13 PM
- - Cshel86   Gave the 1st round to Trout...not much happened th...   Apr 20 2013, 10:13 PM
- - Hotsauce   its 1-1   Apr 20 2013, 10:16 PM
- - Cshel86   Canelo clearly won that round...his right hands fo...   Apr 20 2013, 10:16 PM
- - Franchize   I have it even   Apr 20 2013, 10:16 PM
- - KOpower   That was a Canelo round. Trout needs to be more ac...   Apr 20 2013, 10:16 PM
- - mgrover   I'd agree with 1-1 although the second was clo...   Apr 20 2013, 10:17 PM
- - aTYpicalTYrant   10-9 Alvarez   Apr 20 2013, 10:17 PM
- - Amandla   i GOT 1ST WAS 10-9 tROUT 2ND 10-9 cANELO   Apr 20 2013, 10:17 PM
- - mrchitown   Canelo took that 2nd round   Apr 20 2013, 10:17 PM
- - mrchitown   Smart move by Trout   Apr 20 2013, 10:18 PM
- - Cshel86   Canelo's a bit quicker than I expected. He...   Apr 20 2013, 10:18 PM
- - Hotsauce   2-1 trout   Apr 20 2013, 10:20 PM
- - mrchitown   Bernstein made an interesting observation, neither...   Apr 20 2013, 10:20 PM
- - mgrover   2-1. Trouts showing him what decent foot work look...   Apr 20 2013, 10:20 PM
- - Franchize   like coiled cobras man. Such tension   Apr 20 2013, 10:20 PM
- - KOpower   Close round that I give to Trout. 29-28 Trout thro...   Apr 20 2013, 10:21 PM
- - aTYpicalTYrant   2-1 Trout   Apr 20 2013, 10:21 PM
- - Amandla   I got 1st 10-9 Trout 2nd 10-9 Canelo 3rd 10-10 E...   Apr 20 2013, 10:21 PM
- - Hotsauce   i got a feeling they giving canelo the close round...   Apr 20 2013, 10:22 PM
- - Cshel86   Trout is leaving his head out there too long...dan...   Apr 20 2013, 10:22 PM
- - Hotsauce   man this fight is close as hell   Apr 20 2013, 10:24 PM
- - Franchize   This is a good fucking fight man.   Apr 20 2013, 10:24 PM
- - mgrover   Wtf? Is this HBO? All I can hear from the commenta...   Apr 20 2013, 10:24 PM
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