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> The JAB-the most important punch!!, Do judges score it today?? Is it underappreciated??
BrutUalBK
post Apr 23 2013, 09:56 AM
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Well as we move to an era in which Boxing (the skill-hit without being hit) is now an unappreciated art form and the era of Brawling/UFCish style action packed fights are accepted as the skill (aka art form, if you will) it beckons the question:

Is the Jab an unappreciated/unscored punch? There was a time when this was the most important punch in a fight, it dictated ring generalship, if not atleast the pace of a fight and judges seemingly used to appreciate it more back in the day.

I saw AT score continuously with his jab (though he did miss often) but still the ones that landed should've been counted as much as the powerpunches landed by Canelo. Now I'm not solely focusing on this fight but rather using it as an example.

It just appears that more emphasis was placed on the powerpunches than the jab which landed with regularity rather than consistently.

Your thoughts on this are appreciated and what other fights you saw where a fighter's jab was landing much more than the other's powerpunches.

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mgrover
post Apr 23 2013, 10:02 AM
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One of the big issues is that its separated in stats, you have the jab then everything else which should indicate its more important but when commentators refer to these stats its often a side note rather than an important detail not that the stats are ever accurate, but all you hear is huge right/left hook/uppercut. Never anything about the jab. Some of these judges have been around so long I wonder why they fell out of love of the sweet science cause they damn sure were around when it was good. But I guess the draw is more important its disgusting.
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post Apr 23 2013, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 23 2013, 10:02 AM) *
One of the big issues is that its separated in stats, you have the jab then everything else which should indicate its more important but when commentators refer to these stats its often a side note rather than an important detail not that the stats are ever accurate, but all you hear is huge right/left hook/uppercut. Never anything about the jab. Some of these judges have been around so long I wonder why they fell out of love of the sweet science cause they damn sure were around when it was good. But I guess the draw is more important its disgusting.



You're right, that's all they focus on. In the Canelo vs Trout fight, they highlighted the powerpunching and though Canelo landed significantly far fewer powerpunches than Austin did using his jab he was somehow cristened as the winner. Boxing the art of it is slowly dying, few people seem to appreciate the beauty of it; some recent results is when you read what people say about how Rigo beat Donaire.

Where is the appreciation for the art form of hit without being hit?
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- BrutUalBK   The JAB-the most important punch!!   Apr 23 2013, 09:56 AM
- - mgrover   One of the big issues is that its separated in sta...   Apr 23 2013, 10:02 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 23 2013, 10:02 AM) O...   Apr 23 2013, 10:48 AM
- - mikE11   In most fights, the jab is not the most important ...   Apr 23 2013, 11:25 AM
- - daprofessor   it's the video game era we live in. ppl believ...   Apr 23 2013, 01:27 PM
|- - sduck   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 23 2013, 01:27 P...   Apr 23 2013, 07:29 PM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (sduck @ Apr 23 2013, 07:29 PM) yea...   Apr 24 2013, 10:38 AM
||- - DevJ560   The jab is more a setup punch than a scoring punch   Apr 24 2013, 11:52 AM
||- - SCIO   QUOTE (DevJ560 @ Apr 24 2013, 12:52 PM) T...   Apr 24 2013, 01:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 23 2013, 01:27 P...   Apr 25 2013, 12:35 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 25 2013, 01:35 AM)...   Apr 25 2013, 01:57 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 25 2013, 01:57 P...   Apr 25 2013, 06:21 PM
- - flazi   reminds me of the first forrest mosley fight. fo...   Apr 23 2013, 03:42 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (DevJ560 @ Apr 24 2013, 12:52 PM) T...   Apr 24 2013, 12:13 PM
- - Musashi100   you land with your jab you score with your jab.   Apr 24 2013, 01:02 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Musashi100 @ Apr 24 2013, 01:02 PM...   Apr 24 2013, 02:47 PM
- - SCIO   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Apr 23 2013, 10:56 AM)...   Apr 24 2013, 01:59 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Great post. It does appear that jabs count for ver...   Apr 24 2013, 03:25 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 24 2013, 0...   Apr 25 2013, 12:18 AM
- - mgrover   the jab is something so nice, it just sucks if you...   Apr 25 2013, 03:37 AM
- - neophyte7   Tommy Hearns... now there was one of the best jabs...   Apr 25 2013, 06:15 PM
- - daprofessor   larry holmes without a doubt had a beautiful jab. ...   Apr 25 2013, 06:31 PM
|- - mikE11   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 25 2013, 06:31 P...   Apr 26 2013, 12:26 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mikE11 @ Apr 26 2013, 01:26 PM) An...   Apr 26 2013, 02:31 PM
- - Dolimite   Ruben and Robert Guerrero doesn't think the ja...   Apr 26 2013, 12:42 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 26 2013, 01:42 PM) ...   Apr 26 2013, 02:34 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 26 2013, 12:42 PM) ...   Apr 26 2013, 06:30 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 26 2013, 01:42 PM) ...   Apr 27 2013, 12:24 PM
- - flazi   dp, once he gets in to position for that i think i...   Apr 26 2013, 05:35 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (flazi @ Apr 26 2013, 06:35 PM) dp,...   Apr 26 2013, 06:10 PM
- - mgrover   Paulie has an awesome jab   Apr 26 2013, 06:33 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 26 2013, 07:33 PM) P...   Apr 26 2013, 07:16 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 26 2013, 08:16 P...   Apr 27 2013, 12:19 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Apr 27 2013, 10:24 AM) ...   Apr 27 2013, 01:28 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 27 2013, 01:28 PM) ...   Apr 27 2013, 02:36 PM
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||- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 27 2013, 03:37 PM) ...   Apr 28 2013, 12:08 AM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 27 2013, 01:28 PM) ...   Apr 27 2013, 06:20 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 27 2013, 02:28 PM) ...   Apr 28 2013, 08:26 AM
- - checkleft   .   Apr 27 2013, 05:18 PM
- - checkleft   Lennox is very under appreciated. Back to the ja...   Apr 27 2013, 05:19 PM
- - sduck   Probably because Lennox Lewis went out like a suck...   Apr 28 2013, 02:28 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (sduck @ Apr 28 2013, 02:28 AM) Pro...   Apr 28 2013, 06:55 PM
||- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 28 2013, 03:55 PM)...   Apr 28 2013, 07:08 PM
||- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 28 2013, 07:08 PM) ...   Apr 30 2013, 12:43 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (sduck @ Apr 28 2013, 03:28 AM) Pro...   Apr 29 2013, 09:35 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (sduck @ Apr 28 2013, 03:28 AM) Pro...   Apr 30 2013, 12:14 AM


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