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Jack 1000
post May 5 2013, 06:02 PM
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It would take a past legend to beat him from 147 to 154 and even that would not be easy. Today, can't see anyone beating Floyd. From the past, I would say Leonard could do it, probably Hearns as well. Duran, ONLY if he could show what he showed at Lightweight and the first Leonard fight. More than likely, it's a repeat of Duran quitting like in the second Leonard fight. Benitez might hold him to a draw. He kills Curry, Starling, Breland.

Robinson beats him because he was so good there is no second.

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mrchitown
post May 7 2013, 03:35 AM
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Aint no present fighter beating him

As far as past fighters, I feel he loses to Sugar Ray Robinson and Sugar Ray Leonard, I think Hearns would give Floyd that work. I've talked to a lot of people who think Duran would beat Mayweather but I disagree, I think Mayweather would beat him and Pryor

De La Hoya in his prime against Floyd would be a great fight and the same for Shane. Out of all the fights I just named, in my dream scenario I would like to see Ray Leonard and Mayweather jr go at it
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post May 7 2013, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ May 7 2013, 03:35 AM) *
Aint no present fighter beating him

As far as past fighters, I feel he loses to Sugar Ray Robinson and Sugar Ray Leonard, I think Hearns would give Floyd that work. I've talked to a lot of people who think Duran would beat Mayweather but I disagree, I think Mayweather would beat him and Pryor

De La Hoya in his prime against Floyd would be a great fight and the same for Shane. Out of all the fights I just named, in my dream scenario I would like to see Ray Leonard and Mayweather jr go at it



DLH in his prime was a one handed fighter (the left hook), he rarely used his right hand and it wasn't until Sr started to train him that he became a two handed fighter. I have to disagree there and I think Hearns would've beaten Money but I can't see a KO, probably Robinson KO's Floyd but him and SRL would have a good scrap with neither getting a KO or a knockdown. Shane kinda ruined his prime as he took on a lot of tomato cans so we never really got to see him totally dominate the elites during the time after he beat Oscar (that's when I felt he was in his prime).
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post May 7 2013, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 7 2013, 06:12 AM) *
DLH in his prime was a one handed fighter (the left hook), he rarely used his right hand and it wasn't until Sr started to train him that he became a two handed fighter. I have to disagree there and I think Hearns would've beaten Money but I can't see a KO, probably Robinson KO's Floyd but him and SRL would have a good scrap with neither getting a KO or a knockdown. Shane kinda ruined his prime as he took on a lot of tomato cans so we never really got to see him totally dominate the elites during the time after he beat Oscar (that's when I felt he was in his prime).



Yeah your right, DLH used the left hook as his saving grace in his prime, he made a mistake when he stopped working with Floyd Sr. But I think Hearns would be highly likely to put Floyd down and out. We'll never know though, that's the sucky part about history, we'll never see those dream matchups

Him and SRL, don't get me started lol...that's probably the top fight as far a dream matchups
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post May 8 2013, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ May 7 2013, 11:55 PM) *
Yeah your right, DLH used the left hook as his saving grace in his prime, he made a mistake when he stopped working with Floyd Sr. But I think Hearns would be highly likely to put Floyd down and out. We'll never know though, that's the sucky part about history, we'll never see those dream matchups

Him and SRL, don't get me started lol...that's probably the top fight as far a dream matchups



Yes, I too believe that TH would've been too much for Money because he was tall, fast, great snappy jab, powerful right hand and could box very well and take a decent shot to boot. I personally believe he would've beaten SRL in a close contest but neither man would dominate the other throughout the bout, I felt that Duran at 147 would've been too slow and has many holes in his defense that can be exploited just as they were in the rematch with SRL and the fight with TH (Floyd would've found those openings just as they did).

Too bad we can't really say for sure but it is all just fantasy anyway but it is nice to speculate.
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post May 9 2013, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 8 2013, 03:27 PM) *
Yes, I too believe that TH would've been too much for Money because he was tall, fast, great snappy jab, powerful right hand and could box very well and take a decent shot to boot. I personally believe he would've beaten SRL in a close contest but neither man would dominate the other throughout the bout, I felt that Duran at 147 would've been too slow and has many holes in his defense that can be exploited just as they were in the rematch with SRL and the fight with TH (Floyd would've found those openings just as they did).

Too bad we can't really say for sure but it is all just fantasy anyway but it is nice to speculate.


It really is nice to speculate on things such as these. As far as him and Leonard, man I go back and forth on it all the time. With their ring IQ's, it would've been a sight to see how it played out

Duran would get whooped by Floyd at 147, it would be interesting early but I think as the rounds progressed Floyd would've been tattooing Duran
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- Jack 1000   So Who Beats Floyd? Past or Present?   May 5 2013, 06:02 PM
- - hitman   robinson, duran, hearns and leonard. benitez woul...   May 5 2013, 06:35 PM
- - BrutUalBK   Hearns, Robinson and a Draw with Leonard but Duran...   May 5 2013, 06:58 PM
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