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Jack 1000
post May 5 2013, 06:02 PM
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It would take a past legend to beat him from 147 to 154 and even that would not be easy. Today, can't see anyone beating Floyd. From the past, I would say Leonard could do it, probably Hearns as well. Duran, ONLY if he could show what he showed at Lightweight and the first Leonard fight. More than likely, it's a repeat of Duran quitting like in the second Leonard fight. Benitez might hold him to a draw. He kills Curry, Starling, Breland.

Robinson beats him because he was so good there is no second.

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post May 6 2013, 03:15 AM
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The problem with these kinds of matchmaking is that people always heavily look at legacy, even when they attempt to apply skill, it's still heavily legacy based. You have to heavily look at what is done in the ring and how the fighter does it. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best to ever do it imho, he's the most technically sound and most efficient boxer I've ever seen. I think he'd beat all the names mentioned here. His toughest fights would probably be Pryor, Duran, and Ray Robinson. And contrary to popular opinion I think Ray Leonard would be one of his easiest fights out of the names being mentioned.

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- Jack 1000   So Who Beats Floyd? Past or Present?   May 5 2013, 06:02 PM
- - hitman   robinson, duran, hearns and leonard. benitez woul...   May 5 2013, 06:35 PM
- - BrutUalBK   Hearns, Robinson and a Draw with Leonard but Duran...   May 5 2013, 06:58 PM
- - hitman   duran was not slow and was definitely not easy to ...   May 5 2013, 07:10 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (hitman @ May 5 2013, 07:10 PM) dur...   May 5 2013, 07:15 PM
|- - hitman   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 5 2013, 08:15 PM) ...   May 5 2013, 07:40 PM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (hitman @ May 5 2013, 07:40 PM) dur...   May 5 2013, 10:13 PM
||- - hitman   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 5 2013, 11:13 PM) ...   May 6 2013, 01:33 PM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (hitman @ May 6 2013, 01:33 PM) Doe...   May 7 2013, 05:39 PM
|- - hitman   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 5 2013, 07:15 PM) ...   May 7 2013, 06:58 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (hitman @ May 7 2013, 06:58 PM) ...   May 7 2013, 07:58 PM
|- - hitman   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 7 2013, 07:58 PM) ...   May 7 2013, 08:14 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (hitman @ May 7 2013, 08:14 PM) ...   May 7 2013, 08:56 PM
- - Plah   SRR, Hearns, Forrest, The Hawk. I think he outp...   May 5 2013, 08:43 PM
- - checkleft   I think hearns length would be troublesome, I like...   May 5 2013, 10:44 PM
- - Jack 1000   I do think Pryor and a prime Arguello would have b...   May 5 2013, 11:34 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ May 5 2013, 11:34 PM) ...   May 5 2013, 11:53 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Leonard, Hearns, Duran, 2006's Paul Williams, ...   May 6 2013, 12:31 AM
- - sduck   The problem with these kinds of matchmaking is tha...   May 6 2013, 03:15 AM
- - mitukczuk   The best defense of Pryor was his "i don...   May 6 2013, 03:32 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ May 6 2013, 04:32 AM) ...   May 6 2013, 03:10 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 6 2013, 03:10 PM) Hm...   May 7 2013, 05:32 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ May 7 2013, 06:32 AM) h...   May 7 2013, 11:53 AM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 7 2013, 11:53 AM) Re...   May 7 2013, 03:14 PM
- - Jovi   Marvin hagler- Anyone who steps in the ring with M...   May 6 2013, 06:12 AM
- - mgrover   can't see any of the current young guns beatin...   May 6 2013, 06:37 AM
|- - happygocampy   I agree with Robinson no doubt, i also like Duran ...   May 6 2013, 11:56 AM
- - daprofessor   the duran that beat leonard is the first guy that ...   May 6 2013, 02:45 PM
- - mrchitown   Aint no present fighter beating him As far as pas...   May 7 2013, 03:35 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ May 7 2013, 03:35 AM) ...   May 7 2013, 06:12 AM
||- - mrchitown   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 7 2013, 06:12 AM) ...   May 7 2013, 11:55 PM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ May 7 2013, 11:55 PM) ...   May 8 2013, 03:27 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 8 2013, 04:27 PM) ...   May 8 2013, 08:58 PM
|||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 8 2013, 08:58 PM...   May 8 2013, 09:37 PM
||- - mrchitown   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 8 2013, 03:27 PM) ...   May 9 2013, 01:14 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ May 7 2013, 04:35 AM) ...   May 7 2013, 02:35 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 02:35 PM...   May 7 2013, 05:12 PM
- - sduck   These are some good studies, may have a couple of ...   May 7 2013, 07:05 AM
- - hitman   i thought oscar looked his best vs. trinidad. his...   May 7 2013, 05:15 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (hitman @ May 7 2013, 06:15 PM) i t...   May 7 2013, 06:58 PM
|- - hitman   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 06:58 PM...   May 7 2013, 07:00 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (hitman @ May 7 2013, 08:00 PM) you...   May 7 2013, 07:13 PM
- - hitman   if you don't think duran had defense then you ...   May 7 2013, 05:51 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (hitman @ May 7 2013, 05:51 PM) if ...   May 7 2013, 06:21 PM
- - hitman   funny how a guy with no defense would be featured ...   May 7 2013, 06:32 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (hitman @ May 7 2013, 07:32 PM) fun...   May 7 2013, 06:51 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (hitman @ May 7 2013, 06:32 PM) fun...   May 7 2013, 06:55 PM
- - Dolimite   You guys are sick! Only Manny Pacquiao can bea...   May 7 2013, 06:52 PM
- - hitman   no defense whatsoever...lack of D....too easy to h...   May 7 2013, 09:05 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (hitman @ May 7 2013, 09:05 PM) no ...   May 7 2013, 09:31 PM
- - sduck   I'm looking at the tapes and I think Duran wou...   May 9 2013, 04:21 AM
- - neophyte7   I agree with you that a prepared and focused Duran...   May 9 2013, 09:25 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ May 9 2013, 10:25 AM) ...   May 9 2013, 08:08 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 9 2013, 09:08 PM...   May 9 2013, 09:23 PM
- - Jack 1000   Some past legends may give Floyd problems, As Flo...   May 10 2013, 12:11 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ May 10 2013, 01:11 AM)...   May 10 2013, 07:26 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ May 10 2013, 08:26 AM)...   May 10 2013, 04:13 PM
- - mgrover   The reason Floyd is on such another level I person...   May 10 2013, 04:17 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 10 2013, 05:17 PM) T...   May 10 2013, 04:19 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 10 2013, 10:19 P...   May 10 2013, 04:38 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 10 2013, 05:38 PM) Y...   May 10 2013, 07:09 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 10 2013, 07:09 P...   May 10 2013, 10:31 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ May 10 2013, 10:31 PM)...   May 11 2013, 09:00 AM
- - scdrking2   People can not like him for various reasons, but g...   May 10 2013, 04:47 PM
- - BrutUalBK   In a subject-response talk with RingTV.com, Hearns...   May 12 2013, 06:27 PM
- - neophyte7   Man that was an awesome read. Much respect to Tomm...   May 12 2013, 08:51 PM
- - Genius   Unless those fighters agree to random blood and ur...   May 14 2013, 02:19 AM
- - mgrover   I can't see PAC competing in that era at that ...   May 14 2013, 06:04 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 14 2013, 07:04 AM) I...   May 14 2013, 09:25 AM
- - MaxPayne   I'm going to consider the following fighters: ...   May 14 2013, 09:56 AM
- - sduck   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ May 14 2013, 09:56 AM) ...   May 15 2013, 12:55 PM


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