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BrutUalBK
post May 7 2013, 06:49 AM
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Ok, I've been scanning this situation with Money vs Canelo over and over in my brain and I realized that now it seems Floyd will be staying at 147 since they stripped him of his belt at 154 and everyone seems to want him to go back up and face a bigger Alvarez (who walks around at 170/re-hydrates to the same weight on fight night) and there are those (Haters, mostly) who expects him to make the move back up and not do it at a CW but then those same (Haters, mostly) gave Manny Pac a pass when he took on an Old/way past it/Over-the-hill Oscar at 147 (a weight he hadn't been at in 9 years) for Manny's CW fight with him at WW.

So the questions are: Is there a Double Standard here?? And, if so, why does it exist for Floyd and not for Manny Pacquiao??

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neophyte7
post May 11 2013, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (KOpower @ May 11 2013, 11:10 AM) *
I don't think Canelo can make a CW. I think there could be a clause in there about weight on fight night. I wouldn't be surprised if Canelo turns it down and I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather never chooses to fight Canelo because of it. Canelo is a big 154 pound fighter. I doubt he can come in around 150 or 151 and there is no chance he can reach 147.




I agree. That may be best for Canelo. Not focusing on fighting a welterweight and he can focus on stopping th killing his body fighting below 160 and rehydrating. I am sure diuretics are used and this is not good for the body.. the kidheys. at some point canelo will be stopped by a real viscious body assault.There must be something about him physically that his handlers know which is circumventing him moving up to a natural weight and facing big money opponents like Chavez or Martinez. These fights seems ideal and would make tons of money. Higher weights and stronger punchers with stamina may be his Kryponite..

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post May 11 2013, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (neophyte7 @ May 11 2013, 11:40 AM) *
I agree. That may be best for Canelo. Not focusing on fighting a welterweight and he can focus on stopping th killing his body fighting below 160 and rehydrating. I am sure diuretics are used and this is not good for the body.. the kidheys. at some point canelo will be stopped by a real viscious body assault.There must be something about him physically that his handlers know which is circumventing him moving up to a natural weight and facing big money opponents like Chavez or Martinez. These fights seems ideal and would make tons of money. Higher weights and stronger punchers with stamina may be his Kryponite..


I think you are getting a little bit ahead of yourself here. If Canelo can make weight at 154 and not be so drained where it impacts him on fight night, he should continue to campaign at 154. There is no problem with that. I also see why he wants Mayweather. Mayweather has a few fights at 154 so the weight class isn't foreign to him. Mayweather is also the biggest name and biggest payday out there for him.

I give Canelo tons of props for ignoring GBP and going right for (and beating) Austin Trout....the best at 154 that Canelo could fight. I think there are other good fights at 154 for Canelo. Cotto would be the best fight for him. It is a major PPV event, Cotto is a big name, tons of money will be out there, and I think there is a chance that Canelo looks great in stopping Cotto. Cotto would also be really dangerous, but if Canelo is able to get that W then he would have back to back wins over Trout and Cotto. That would be huge for his career. There are also fights with Angulo and Lara that could be made. I think Canelo has at least 1 more year left in him at 154. Then he can move up and look for fights at 160.
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- BrutUalBK   FLOYD and PAC   May 7 2013, 06:49 AM
- - sduck   Yeah but that's kind of old...   May 7 2013, 06:59 AM
|- - mitukczuk   QUOTE (sduck @ May 7 2013, 06:59 AM) Yes ...   May 7 2013, 07:13 AM
- - mgrover   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 7 2013, 12:49 PM) ...   May 7 2013, 08:27 AM
- - leonthegee   "They hate seeing a black man with a gang of ...   May 7 2013, 08:30 AM
- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 7 2013, 06:49 AM) ...   May 7 2013, 08:40 AM
- - Franchize   Cmon now. We all know Manny Pacquiao can do no wro...   May 7 2013, 09:06 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ May 7 2013, 10:06 AM) ...   May 7 2013, 09:46 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Franchize @ May 7 2013, 03:06 PM) ...   May 7 2013, 12:00 PM
|- - aTYpicalTYrant   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 7 2013, 01:00 PM) As...   May 7 2013, 12:22 PM
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- - daprofessor   there is a double standard because most hold floyd...   May 7 2013, 02:21 PM
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