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> whispers are that Floyd vs Guerrero did less than 1 mil in ppv buys, ppv #'s from may 5th (Post Closed-Circuit Figures Too)
karmine20
post May 7 2013, 02:49 PM
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http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/05/...1-million-buys/

if this is really true. do you think it was a bad move for showtime to sign that monsterous deal? I hope this is nothing but a rumor but i think there might be some truth to this. i really hope its not the case but we will find out sooner than later.
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Dolimite
post May 7 2013, 06:49 PM
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This was Showtime's first time at the big rodeo if it didn't crack a million they will go back to the drawing board and do better. Floyd put on a masterpiece so he lived up to his end of the bargain. He even has a new attitude so if anything his next fight will do twice as good. No one expected a 5 year younger version of Mayweather. Even that uncle tom bitch ass Michael Wilbon who hates Mayweather was amazed at his performance. I think it will crack a million plus. Hell even BET showed 30 days in May. I think it did well.
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 7 2013, 07:49 PM) *
This was Showtime's first time at the big rodeo if it didn't crack a million they will go back to the drawing board and do better. Floyd put on a masterpiece so he lived up to his end of the bargain. He even has a new attitude so if anything his next fight will do twice as good. No one expected a 5 year younger version of Mayweather. Even that uncle tom bitch ass Michael Wilbon who hates Mayweather was amazed at his performance. I think it will crack a million plus. Hell even BET showed 30 days in May. I think it did well.


i think i may be alone in thinking this is a good thing for boxing.

maybe they lower the price of ppv's?

maybe they do away with them totally?

ppv is not good for boxing.

bring boxing back to network tv where it belongs. to be honest....floyd vs anyone from 140-147 is not ppv worthy.

floyd vs canelo, martinez or ggg is ppv worthy.

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post May 7 2013, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 07:09 PM) *
i think i may be alone in thinking this is a good thing for boxing.

maybe they lower the price of ppv's?

maybe they do away with them totally?

ppv is not good for boxing.

bring boxing back to network tv where it belongs. to be honest....floyd vs anyone from 140-147 is not ppv worthy.

floyd vs canelo, martinez or ggg is ppv worthy.


I don't think at least from the customers viewpoint PPV is good for boxing at all. GGG is only known to hardcore boxing fans. Martinez who got dropped at should have lost to Murray, that's not PPV. Only Alvarez might be because he is a draw to the Latino and Mexican/Mexican American populations. Latino and Hispanic based populations are huge PPV markets. Arum and Delahoya have known this for years. Floyd needs a big name money maker to do well in the numbers. He can't dance alone and do a great PPV. Only hardcore boxing fans knew who Robert Guerrero was. That and $60-$70 for a fight where Floyd was expected to dominate easily and did so, are not strong indicators of PPV success.

The price has to be lower, much lower, and maybe Floyd and his team could look at bringing some fights to regular Showtime. Let's face it. Remember that six fight deal list? Was Alvarez even on that list? He's the only good opponent that's going to make money as a PPV.

If not Canelo, Floyd could just retire. I mean who the fuck is gonna pay $60-$70 to watch Mayweather fight Khan, (except the Brits who don't know any better?) But Spadafora? Devon Alexander? Even hard-core Mayweather fans are going to have a hard time with anybody on that list. There's just nobody good enough, outside of maybe Canelo who could give Floyd a good fight. To hang around just to stay busy when the competition isn't there. Why? There's no big dollars there. Like Floyd even said, "If it makes dollars, it makes sense." Take away Canelo there's no opponents that make sense. That's not Floyd's fault, it's just the way it is with this deal.

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- karmine20   whispers are that Floyd vs Guerrero did less than 1 mil in ppv buys   May 7 2013, 02:49 PM
- - scdrking2   Honestly, it depends on why Showtime/CBS did the d...   May 7 2013, 02:57 PM
- - Jack 1000   I think a huge reason is that the prices are too h...   May 7 2013, 03:00 PM
- - pimpfighterROQ   would not be surprised if this is true. Before all...   May 7 2013, 03:02 PM
- - scdrking2   Also, this may sound crazy, but way more Black clu...   May 7 2013, 03:06 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   For all of you that said, who is Alvarez to think ...   May 7 2013, 03:21 PM
|- - scdrking2   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ May 7 2013, 03...   May 7 2013, 03:30 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ May 7 2013, 03...   May 7 2013, 03:46 PM
|- - aTYpicalTYrant   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ May 7 2013, 04...   May 7 2013, 04:14 PM
- - daprofessor   canelo definitely would have given a significant b...   May 7 2013, 03:55 PM
- - mgrover   If I wanted I could pay 10 a month for box nation...   May 7 2013, 05:30 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 7 2013, 06:30 PM) If...   May 7 2013, 06:16 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 7 2013, 06:30 PM) If...   May 7 2013, 06:45 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 8 2013, 12:45 AM...   May 8 2013, 07:36 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 8 2013, 08:36 AM) th...   May 8 2013, 06:42 PM
- - Dolimite   This was Showtime's first time at the big rode...   May 7 2013, 06:49 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 7 2013, 07:49 PM) T...   May 7 2013, 07:09 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 08:09 PM...   May 7 2013, 07:17 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ May 7 2013, 08...   May 7 2013, 07:53 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 05:09 PM...   May 7 2013, 07:49 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 7 2013, 08:49 PM) T...   May 7 2013, 08:05 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 07:09 PM...   May 7 2013, 08:11 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 03:55 PM...   May 7 2013, 07:06 PM
- - checkleft   I still don't get all this ggg talk, he has ye...   May 7 2013, 07:28 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ May 7 2013, 08:28 PM) ...   May 7 2013, 07:56 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 07:56 PM...   May 7 2013, 08:03 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ May 7 2013, 09:03 PM) ...   May 7 2013, 08:09 PM
|- - Jovi   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2013, 09:09 PM...   May 8 2013, 08:56 AM
- - Jack 1000   I added to the topic also inquiring on any figures...   May 7 2013, 09:01 PM
- - leonthegee   Dont you guys think its odd that this story broke ...   May 7 2013, 11:28 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (leonthegee @ May 8 2013, 12:28 AM)...   May 8 2013, 06:40 PM
- - mitukczuk   Since Floyd gets another guaranteed 32 milion MINI...   May 8 2013, 12:39 AM
- - mrchitown   I'll wait for the official numbers but if it d...   May 8 2013, 02:51 AM
- - Jovi   I don't see how less than 1 mill ppv is bad. A...   May 8 2013, 09:12 AM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (Jovi @ May 8 2013, 10:12 AM) I don...   May 8 2013, 05:15 PM
||- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Marcus @ May 8 2013, 05:15 PM) Bro...   May 8 2013, 05:30 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jovi @ May 8 2013, 10:12 AM) I don...   May 8 2013, 06:45 PM
- - Tha Docta   only problem with less than a million PPV buys is ...   May 8 2013, 09:53 AM
- - Cshel86   Cshel reads, "Whispers are that Floyd......   May 8 2013, 12:15 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 8 2013, 09:15 AM) Cs...   May 8 2013, 04:57 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 8 2013, 01:15 PM) Cs...   May 8 2013, 08:59 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 8 2013, 09:59 PM...   May 8 2013, 09:54 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 8 2013, 10:54 PM) Wh...   May 9 2013, 12:36 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 8 2013, 10:54 PM) Wh...   May 9 2013, 06:50 PM
- - JammyJam   Throws Broner on his ppvs problem solved.   May 8 2013, 02:15 PM
- - mgrover   I seriously don't get how Broner, or GGG can b...   May 8 2013, 02:25 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 8 2013, 02:25 PM) I ...   May 8 2013, 03:40 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 8 2013, 03:25 PM) I ...   May 8 2013, 06:46 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 9 2013, 12:46 AM...   May 9 2013, 12:13 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 9 2013, 01:13 PM) If...   May 9 2013, 06:57 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 10 2013, 12:57 A...   May 9 2013, 06:59 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 9 2013, 07:59 PM) Th...   May 9 2013, 07:01 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 10 2013, 01:01 A...   May 9 2013, 07:36 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 8 2013, 06:54 PM) Wh...   May 9 2013, 11:18 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 9 2013, 12:18 PM) D...   May 9 2013, 06:55 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 9 2013, 12:18 PM) D...   May 9 2013, 07:02 PM
- - xxxxxx   The fight will tally near or around the Marquez fi...   May 9 2013, 11:57 AM
- - mrchitown   Schaefer claims the PPV numbers will be out today ...   May 10 2013, 12:16 AM
- - MaxPayne   For Floyd, it doesn't really matter. He'll...   May 10 2013, 12:54 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ May 10 2013, 06:54 AM) ...   May 10 2013, 06:58 AM
- - neophyte7   1 million PPV sold... Alvarez better get ready for...   May 10 2013, 07:18 AM
|- - scdrking2   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ May 10 2013, 07:18 AM)...   May 10 2013, 08:22 AM
||- - Franchize   QUOTE (scdrking2 @ May 10 2013, 09:22 AM)...   May 10 2013, 08:44 AM
||- - scdrking2   QUOTE (Franchize @ May 10 2013, 08:44 AM)...   May 10 2013, 09:45 AM
|- - Cshel86   Canelo who???   May 10 2013, 09:26 AM
- - Hops   300,000 short. Why would Canelo give in to any s...   May 10 2013, 08:03 AM
- - Franchize   Canelo is going to end up fighting Cotto. That...   May 10 2013, 08:19 AM
- - Hops   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 10 2013, 02:26 PM) C...   May 10 2013, 09:34 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Hops @ May 10 2013, 10:34 AM) An u...   May 10 2013, 09:38 AM
- - Hops   QUOTE (Franchize @ May 10 2013, 01:19 PM)...   May 10 2013, 09:37 AM
- - Musashi100   they do this shit every year with mayweather numbe...   May 10 2013, 09:40 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (scdrking2 @ May 10 2013, 09:22 AM)...   May 10 2013, 11:09 AM
- - Dolimite   Well we know that he did do over a million buys bu...   May 10 2013, 02:43 PM
- - daprofessor   "those numbers better be right!!...   May 10 2013, 04:02 PM
- - checkleft   Ticket sales came in at 9.9 mill gross. So it wasn...   May 10 2013, 05:47 PM
|- - betii   QUOTE (checkleft @ May 10 2013, 06:47 PM)...   May 10 2013, 11:08 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (betii @ May 10 2013, 11:08 PM) Not...   May 11 2013, 04:43 AM
- - Franchize   I knew there was somewhat of a shortcoming as far ...   May 12 2013, 09:06 PM
- - Jack 1000   Showtime head Steve Espinoza says the fight will d...   May 13 2013, 01:33 AM


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