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post May 10 2013, 09:45 PM
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should have been the fab 5 if hagler fought benitez.
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The thing about hagler tho, he had a chin of titanium that allowed him to expoloit, duran did not have that guft, and relied on pure skill and defense to survive murderous punchers. If it wasnt for haglers chin, i no he wouldnt hvae survived some of those wars he fought, especially hearns. The reason hagler beat duran had a lot do do with durans jab, or lack there of. Durans arms were too small for him to reach hagler with a jab, therefore he couldnt fuck with hagler alot on the outside. So he was landing his short right hands inside, and boxing hagler when he could. Hagler, born invulnerable to punches, didnt have durans respect as far as being able to hurt him, so he just outworked him because he could. If duran cant stop hagler from coming forward, then he can only really potshot him when he does.

Hagler had a huge ass reach on him, was a natural middleweight, was in his prime, and was fighting his first big fight, so he had more to prove. Duran was slowly burning out at this stage, at 34. He had already beaten leonard, fought everyone under the sun in the 70s, and he was constantly fighting guy where he was at a disadvantage in weight, frame, and age, (usually all 3).

Before i go, i want you guys to look at some analagies compared to the 80s when considering duran. Im using pacquiao because he holds the same class and position that duran did, being they are the same size, went up in weight, are poor kids from 3rd world, etc etc

147 Duran vs Leonard = Pacquiao vs Mayweather, with pacquiao winning lol
154 Duran vs Hearns = pacquiao vs paul williams, this is just ridiculous
160 Duran vs Hagler = Pacquiao vs golovkin
168 Duran vs Barkley = Pacquiao vs Ward, dude, come on.....
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post May 14 2013, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (klonopinz @ May 14 2013, 12:19 AM) *
The thing about hagler tho, he had a chin of titanium that allowed him to expoloit, duran did not have that guft, and relied on pure skill and defense to survive murderous punchers. If it wasnt for haglers chin, i no he wouldnt hvae survived some of those wars he fought, especially hearns. The reason hagler beat duran had a lot do do with durans jab, or lack there of. Durans arms were too small for him to reach hagler with a jab, therefore he couldnt fuck with hagler alot on the outside. So he was landing his short right hands inside, and boxing hagler when he could. Hagler, born invulnerable to punches, didnt have durans respect as far as being able to hurt him, so he just outworked him because he could. If duran cant stop hagler from coming forward, then he can only really potshot him when he does.

Hagler had a huge ass reach on him, was a natural middleweight, was in his prime, and was fighting his first big fight, so he had more to prove. Duran was slowly burning out at this stage, at 34. He had already beaten leonard, fought everyone under the sun in the 70s, and he was constantly fighting guy where he was at a disadvantage in weight, frame, and age, (usually all 3).

Before i go, i want you guys to look at some analagies compared to the 80s when considering duran. Im using pacquiao because he holds the same class and position that duran did, being they are the same size, went up in weight, are poor kids from 3rd world, etc etc

147 Duran vs Leonard = Pacquiao vs Mayweather, with pacquiao winning lol
154 Duran vs Hearns = pacquiao vs paul williams, this is just ridiculous
160 Duran vs Hagler = Pacquiao vs golovkin
168 Duran vs Barkley = Pacquiao vs Ward, dude, come on.....


duran > pac

leonard > mayweather

hearns > williams

hagler > golovkin

ward > barkely (maybe...)

the only similarities they had was that they were little guys moving up in weight. duran was a beast.
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- daprofessor   the fabulous four   May 10 2013, 09:45 PM
- - mgrover   who was the best of the fab four?   May 11 2013, 05:57 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ May 11 2013, 05:57 AM) w...   May 11 2013, 08:53 AM
- - mitukczuk   The best of the fab four? I have to say Hagler too...   May 11 2013, 10:03 AM
- - neophyte7   Hearns is the best... WON TITLES AT 147 154 160 16...   May 11 2013, 10:28 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ May 11 2013, 10:28 AM)...   May 11 2013, 10:48 AM
- - Jovi   Hagler just a beast. Great boxer probably the toug...   May 11 2013, 10:38 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (Jovi @ May 11 2013, 11:38 AM) Hagl...   May 11 2013, 10:46 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 11 2013, 11:48 AM)...   May 11 2013, 12:15 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ May 11 2013, 12:15 PM)...   May 11 2013, 02:19 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 11 2013, 03:19 PM)...   May 11 2013, 05:21 PM
- - Hotsauce   what about srl vs pryor?   May 11 2013, 05:27 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ May 11 2013, 06:27 PM) ...   May 11 2013, 05:31 PM
- - Amandla   Marvin is my favourite fighter of ALL TIME. The on...   May 11 2013, 05:33 PM
- - mgrover   Leonard seemed to run from a lot of people till th...   May 11 2013, 09:22 PM
- - klonopinz   Since nobody is repping duran, I have to jump in h...   May 11 2013, 09:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (klonopinz @ May 11 2013, 10:24 PM)...   May 13 2013, 06:47 PM
- - klonopinz   I forgot to address his loss to benitez, yes he ls...   May 11 2013, 09:33 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (klonopinz @ May 11 2013, 10:33 PM)...   May 12 2013, 07:55 AM
- - Hotsauce   there is a hands of stone movie coming out   May 13 2013, 08:08 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ May 13 2013, 09:08 AM) ...   May 13 2013, 10:37 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ May 13 2013, 11:37 AM)...   May 13 2013, 06:49 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 13 2013, 07:49 P...   May 15 2013, 01:04 PM
- - Jovi   Just watched Hagler/Duran. I had Hagler comfortabl...   May 13 2013, 11:07 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Jovi @ May 13 2013, 12:07 PM) Just...   May 13 2013, 06:52 PM
- - Hotsauce   srl could probably play himself in that movie   May 13 2013, 09:02 PM
- - klonopinz   The thing about hagler tho, he had a chin of titan...   May 13 2013, 11:19 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (klonopinz @ May 14 2013, 12:19 AM)...   May 14 2013, 02:18 PM
- - Genius   The Sugar man beat all of them.....   May 14 2013, 02:13 AM
- - klonopinz   it is a size comparison. not a fighter comparison....   May 14 2013, 05:06 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (klonopinz @ May 14 2013, 06:06 PM)...   May 15 2013, 01:18 PM
- - sduck   Hagler was the best of the four, Leonard got gift ...   May 15 2013, 12:50 PM
- - Genius   QUOTE (sduck @ May 15 2013, 12:50 PM) Hag...   May 17 2013, 04:01 AM


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