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Gambit808
post May 22 2013, 11:58 AM
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Not saying he has to, or that he needs much more to prove in order to justictify his place as the greatest of this era. But can you imagine how much more money, how much more power, how much more respect he'd acquire had he finish off Cotto, Guerrero, Mosley, Marquez, De La Hoya when he had them all hurt. I doubt the whole Mayweather-Pacquiao dream fight would be much of a 9th wonder of the boxing general world. IMO along with his skill-set that we know him by today, there wouldn't be room for any dispute when ever you brought his name up because he'd be the complete package. Again, don't get me wrong, Mayweather has it all... Or almost. That one thing he lacks ever since jumping to WW and which I believe is a reason he even started fighting guys toe 2 toe, is for a better win KO%, which if he was able to produce against those for 5 names, would bring him much more fortune and fame. #wishfulthinking

Agree/Disagree with this post?

Also, if Mayweather was a power puncher along with the skill-set he already has, would that put him above most, if not all past greats?
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post May 22 2013, 12:09 PM
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I think the way he's been finishing fights is fine, seriously. Can you imagine how much ridicule he'd receive if he knocked all of those guys out? If he had knocked any of these guys, I think he would've received the most credit for stopping Mosley, since we've yet to see that happen.

Other than that, he'd really appear to be the "cherry picker" that most perceive him to be. I'm glad that he doesn't have much power, so now he doesn't have to worry about it leaving him when he gets older. Imagine how good of a boxer Mosley would've been, had he had less power.

To me, the less power, the more concentration on other areas of your fighting style. Usually, guys with power will rely on it, and get frustrated if they cant land. Ultimately, they're stuck looking goofy while the guy with less power (or the guy who was able to withstand their power), outworks them.
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post May 22 2013, 12:15 PM
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Meh I don't think he needs it. I mean he pushes but just can't manage it, his hands and wrists just don't seem up to it. Look at Gatti before he fell in love with his own power, pretty decent boxer.
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post May 22 2013, 12:20 PM
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KO's don't make your legacy that much greater, I am sorry. Mayweather literally makes his opponents look like shit. Plus the knock out is not always there in every fight. Plus looking for the knock out can hurt your plan or strategy. This is why we bitch about Donaire and Alvarez. They are always looking for that big shot and sometimes it isn't there. Again KO's are nice but that is not why I watch boxing. I like it when a boxer can humiliate his opponent with their fighting style, which is why mayweather is my favorite fighter. he doesn't need a KO, please stop listening to Skip " i don't know shit about shit" bayless.
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post May 22 2013, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 22 2013, 01:09 PM) *
I think the way he's been finishing fights is fine, seriously. Can you imagine how much ridicule he'd receive if he knocked all of those guys out? If he had knocked any of these guys, I think he would've received the most credit for stopping Mosley, since we've yet to see that happen.

Other than that, he'd really appear to be the "cherry picker" that most perceive him to be. I'm glad that he doesn't have much power, so now he doesn't have to worry about it leaving him when he gets older. Imagine how good of a boxer Mosley would've been, had he had less power.

To me, the less power, the more concentration on other areas of your fighting style. Usually, guys with power will rely on it, and get frustrated if they cant land. Ultimately, they're stuck looking goofy while the guy with less power (or the guy who was able to withstand their power), outworks them.

Good Point C, though I think he would've gotten some form of credit with Oscar being that, that was Floyd's first trip to that weight, but all n all, can't argue this.
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post May 22 2013, 01:33 PM
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Stopping shane would have been big for Mayweather because Shane has never been stopped. Mayweather definitely was on the verge and Nazim even hinted of stopping it I recall. Mayweather could have and should have stopped him
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post May 22 2013, 02:08 PM
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I think the late Manny Steward summed it up perfectly, he can get the KO but he's more content with getting the rounds in the bank and getting the decision. If he would've kept at Cotto he would've been outta there in the 12th, Mosley was getting tattooed after that 2nd round and Floyd just starting picking his spots and banking the rounds.
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post May 22 2013, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 22 2013, 01:09 PM) *
I think the way he's been finishing fights is fine, seriously. Can you imagine how much ridicule he'd receive if he knocked all of those guys out? If he had knocked any of these guys, I think he would've received the most credit for stopping Mosley, since we've yet to see that happen.

Other than that, he'd really appear to be the "cherry picker" that most perceive him to be. I'm glad that he doesn't have much power, so now he doesn't have to worry about it leaving him when he gets older. Imagine how good of a boxer Mosley would've been, had he had less power.

To me, the less power, the more concentration on other areas of your fighting style. Usually, guys with power will rely on it, and get frustrated if they cant land. Ultimately, they're stuck looking goofy while the guy with less power (or the guy who was able to withstand their power), outworks them.


I totally reason and agree with this ^^^.

Also, far from because he doesn't have many ko's to his credit, Mayweather is not ascribed by some the level of greatness he deserves, more because of his reputation and perceived personality outside of the squared ring. Boxing experts and scholars have emotions too.

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post May 22 2013, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 22 2013, 01:20 PM) *
KO's don't make your legacy that much greater, I am sorry. Mayweather literally makes his opponents look like shit. Plus the knock out is not always there in every fight. Plus looking for the knock out can hurt your plan or strategy. This is why we bitch about Donaire and Alvarez. They are always looking for that big shot and sometimes it isn't there. Again KO's are nice but that is not why I watch boxing. I like it when a boxer can humiliate his opponent with their fighting style, which is why mayweather is my favorite fighter. he doesn't need a KO, please stop listening to Skip " i don't know shit about shit" bayless.


This tallies totally with my own main reason too for watching boxing. To me, some of the best fights I've seen involved Mayweather, in his fights against Gatti, Coralles, Genaro Hernandez, and more recently, Mosley.

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post May 22 2013, 04:02 PM
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If Floyds power from his lighter weight days would have stayed with him and if he didn't have brittle hands, he would probably be the most ducked fighter since Tyson in his early prime. Mayweather already is a nearly complete fighter that can do it all but adding more power to his already respectible power now would be making him 'OP' as some people would put it.

I think Matthysse's one of those guys that doesn't soley focus on his power like most power punchers. He has a very under scored boxing ability and has decent defensive techniques, like parrying shots, ducking over to opponents vulnerable foot positions, and feints. Its just that he has real KO power in both hands that overshadows it.

mgrover said it, he doesn't need it which shows you how great he is with his skills.
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