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Dolimite
post May 29 2013, 09:57 AM
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Before I even begin my thought on the topic let me make this disclaimer: I think Manny is a great bawler but not boxer I do not dislike Manny but I HATE his fans, especially the disillusioned ones.

Looking at overall boxing skills Manny Pacquiao has a lot left to be desired. He doesn't know how to turn his opponent, he has no idea how to roll a punch and his jab makes me want to scream. His foot work is so so and his ring IQ is average at best. He doesn't have a game plan when it comes to boxing against boxers but looks spectacular against brawlers. I actually because a fan of Manny's after his fight with Macro Antonio Barrera. I was amazed how heavy handed he was. Then after seeing him fight I realized that he was a pure slugger and saw his opponents and thought "wait a second, this guy has yet to fight a boxer." When he did finally fought a boxer I was amazed to see how much he lacks in boxing skills. His fights with Juan Manuel and Clottely proved to me that he can not handle or does not know how to box, this proved especially true with Bradley. Again Manny is a great slugger but boxer I would say he is a B level fighter. A complete fighter can do it all. Sergio Martinez, Ward, Dawson, Hopkins, Mikey Garcia, Mares, Mayweather, and the list goes on. I just do not see Manny as a boxer, I see him as pure homerun hitter.

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post Jun 8 2013, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 8 2013, 10:23 AM) *
That's not his fault that he steamrolled thru his opponents. Yeah shit is ridiculous where the fuck you get it in your head that because Tyson or any other fighter had power that they're ring acumen is diminished. He trained with Cus who is one of the greatest boxing minds had Atlas with him and trained with Rooney who I believe should've trained hin for the rest of his career.

These are all men with considerable knowledge who helped him. I don't see him as a brawler. Rios is a brawler. He just goes in and looks to bang it out. Tyson had defense and could make you miss, he's not the stereotypical brawler you trying to make him out to be. To each his own but damn bruh. You seem to love stereotypes. Cuz by listening to you only so called technicians like an Andre Ward type have ring smarts

Tyson had many strengths. Like speed defense power and so on and so on. I think your assessment of him is for lack of a better word bullshit to prove your point about Manny. Tyson is way better then you give him credit for. I got hooked on boxing as a kid thru Iron Mike and one of the things my trainer had me do was study different fighters and they styles and I studied Mike inside out and he way more then a brawler. You dumb him down by giving him that label. I respect your opinion but that ring intelligence remark was the dumbest shit I ever heard you say on here. He's remembered for his vicious KO's but he was no dummy in the ring...I think he's smarter then Manny who doesn't seem to make adjustments or know how to.


Chi, I respect your opinions and you. I like Iron Mike, I honestly do, even after he married that gold digging chic. He did work with the best minds in boxing, however after Cus died his game slipped. I think his demons caught up with him inside the ring and out. Buster Douglas he got totally careless. He was quick he has one of the best head movements I have seen a heavy weight or anyone else have. However, there were holes in the arsenal. He was a brutal KO puncher and that is how I remember him as. What I will do all next week is look at Tyson's old fights and maybe I will have a different opinion but as of today, he is a brawler. By the way, my Kings are winning tonight!

QUOTE (Junior80 @ Jun 8 2013, 03:35 PM) *
Tyson , when he was in shape resembled the HULK he could destroy anything in his path with insane speed, timing accuracy and power , he was vicious and had true bad intentions , somewhere along the lines ( before buster KO'd him) he lost that edge , had he remained dedicated and in shape I think his boxing career would have turned out a lot differently


And asking if manny pacquaio is a B level fighter is seriously laughable , he is the ONLY person in the history of boxing to hold eight world titles in 8 different weight divisions , you name me a B level fighter that could accomplish that. He will for sure go down in history as an elite fighter.........

And you probably believe that George Michael isn't gay? That 8 divisional title is bullshit. You can't be a 154 champion if you never actually fought at that weight plus it was a vacant title, please.


mgrover Muggsy Bogues and Spud Web were the shortest basketballs players in history of the game. They were like 5'10 or some shit. Meaning they went up against guys bigger than they all the time, does that make them better than LeBron or Magic Johnson? Hell no!

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post Jun 8 2013, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 8 2013, 07:17 PM) *
By the way, my Kings are winning tonight


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) see yall next season. We got a ship to win
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- Dolimite   Is Manny Pacquiao A B Level Fighter?   May 29 2013, 09:57 AM
- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 29 2013, 03:57 PM) ...   May 29 2013, 11:16 AM
- - KOpower   He is one of the greats of his era. This is like t...   May 29 2013, 12:09 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (KOpower @ May 29 2013, 12:09 PM) H...   May 30 2013, 01:42 PM
|- - KOpower   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 30 2013, 02:42 PM)...   May 30 2013, 07:08 PM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (KOpower @ May 30 2013, 07:08 PM) W...   May 31 2013, 01:08 PM
||- - Plah   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 31 2013, 02:08 PM)...   Jun 2 2013, 04:56 PM
|- - blackrican23   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ May 30 2013, 02:42 PM)...   Jun 5 2013, 11:52 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (blackrican23 @ Jun 6 2013, 12:52 A...   Jun 6 2013, 09:36 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 6 2013, 09:36 AM) Pl...   Jun 6 2013, 06:24 PM
|- - Dolimite   [quote name='daprofessor' date='Jun 6 ...   Jun 6 2013, 10:05 PM
- - MaxPayne   This is the FIGHT game. Just because a fighter d...   May 29 2013, 01:16 PM
- - Jack 1000   No, His dominance and moving up in weight is far ...   May 29 2013, 01:18 PM
- - mex4life   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 29 2013, 09:57 AM) ...   May 29 2013, 02:03 PM
- - daprofessor   pacquiao's accomplishment at 130 and below qua...   May 29 2013, 03:56 PM
- - jtiizzle   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 29 2013, 07:57 AM) ...   May 29 2013, 04:38 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (jtiizzle @ May 29 2013, 02:38 PM) ...   May 29 2013, 05:08 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 29 2013, 11:08 PM) ...   May 29 2013, 06:18 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mex4life @ May 29 2013, 11:03 AM) ...   May 29 2013, 10:45 PM
|- - mex4life   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 29 2013, 11:45 PM) ...   May 30 2013, 02:48 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 30 2013, 04:45 AM) ...   May 30 2013, 07:37 AM
- - sduck   I would say an A- fighter.   May 29 2013, 11:26 PM
- - mrwigi   We will have to wait and see how he looks over his...   May 30 2013, 12:53 AM
- - mrchitown   He's not a B-level fighter, not even with the ...   May 30 2013, 02:36 AM
- - un01   As of right now, we have no idea what level Manny ...   May 30 2013, 05:29 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mex4life @ May 29 2013, 11:48 PM) ...   May 30 2013, 08:08 AM
- - checkleft   I think he's a lot like mike tyson, great ente...   May 30 2013, 09:27 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (checkleft @ May 30 2013, 07:27 AM)...   May 30 2013, 11:33 AM
|- - KOpower   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 30 2013, 12:33 PM) ...   May 30 2013, 07:06 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Dolimite @ May 30 2013, 11:33 AM) ...   May 30 2013, 03:03 PM
- - pacco_diablo   The most championship belts across the most divisi...   May 30 2013, 03:32 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (pacco_diablo @ May 30 2013, 03:32 ...   May 30 2013, 03:35 PM
- - BoxingEinstein   I think Manny is/was a A- level fighter at 130 and...   May 30 2013, 04:10 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ May 30 2013, 04:1...   May 30 2013, 05:53 PM
|- - BoxingEinstein   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 30 2013, 06:53 P...   May 30 2013, 07:30 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ May 30 2013, 08:3...   May 31 2013, 10:13 AM
- - Dolimite   What I am hearing is that Manny is an ATG. So woul...   May 31 2013, 10:54 AM
- - Plah   B   Jun 2 2013, 04:57 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Plah @ Jun 2 2013, 02:57 PM) B Exp...   Jun 2 2013, 09:49 PM
|- - Plah   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 2 2013, 10:49 PM) E...   Jun 4 2013, 07:55 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE hey it only took till post 21 to understand ...   Jun 6 2013, 03:26 PM
- - Dolimite   I think Manny is an exciting fighter but just a av...   Jun 6 2013, 11:33 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 6 2013, 11:33 AM) I...   Jun 6 2013, 03:28 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jun 6 2013, 01:28 PM) ...   Jun 6 2013, 05:48 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 6 2013, 05:48 PM) Y...   Jun 7 2013, 08:49 AM
- - mgrover   He's clearly A level and elite and had one hec...   Jun 7 2013, 06:54 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 7 2013, 06:54 AM) He...   Jun 7 2013, 07:58 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jun 7 2013, 01:58 PM) ...   Jun 7 2013, 09:54 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 7 2013, 09:54 AM) no...   Jun 9 2013, 05:03 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jun 9 2013, 11:03 AM) ...   Jun 9 2013, 08:47 AM
|- - Junior80   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 9 2013, 09:47 AM) No...   Jun 9 2013, 10:40 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Junior80 @ Jun 9 2013, 07:40 AM) L...   Jun 9 2013, 10:43 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 9 2013, 04:43 PM) F...   Jun 9 2013, 10:58 AM
|- - Junior80   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 9 2013, 11:58 AM) Ev...   Jun 9 2013, 11:39 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Junior80 @ Jun 9 2013, 05:39 PM) I...   Jun 9 2013, 01:36 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Junior80 @ Jun 9 2013, 09:39 AM) I...   Jun 9 2013, 01:47 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jun 6 2013, 04:26 PM) ...   Jun 7 2013, 09:01 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jun 7 2013, 05:49 AM) ...   Jun 7 2013, 11:55 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 7 2013, 05:55 PM) ...   Jun 7 2013, 01:12 PM
||- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 7 2013, 10:12 AM) wi...   Jun 7 2013, 02:56 PM
||- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 7 2013, 08:56 PM) C...   Jun 7 2013, 04:43 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 7 2013, 11:55 AM) H...   Jun 7 2013, 04:52 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 7 2013, 02:52 PM) ...   Jun 7 2013, 05:45 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 7 2013, 11:45 PM) T...   Jun 8 2013, 05:12 AM
||- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 8 2013, 02:12 AM) It...   Jun 8 2013, 08:03 AM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 7 2013, 05:45 PM) T...   Jun 8 2013, 01:23 PM
- - KOpower   Why is it so hard for you to understand? Manny has...   Jun 8 2013, 10:15 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (KOpower @ Jun 8 2013, 08:15 AM) Wh...   Jun 8 2013, 11:29 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 7 2013, 05:52 PM) ...   Jun 8 2013, 11:56 AM
- - anthonyaccurate   In what fights did Tyson's opponents not have ...   Jun 8 2013, 04:43 PM
|- - Junior80   Tyson , when he was in shape resembled the HULK he...   Jun 8 2013, 06:35 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 8 2013, 10:23 AM) ...   Jun 8 2013, 07:17 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 8 2013, 07:17 PM) C...   Jun 8 2013, 09:30 PM
|- - Junior80   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 8 2013, 08:17 PM) C...   Jun 8 2013, 10:42 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 8 2013, 07:17 PM) B...   Jun 8 2013, 11:48 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 9 2013, 01:17 AM) C...   Jun 9 2013, 03:14 AM
- - wolterb   ^before they started trying to up Pacquiao's c...   Jun 10 2013, 09:49 AM
- - MAHDI   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 9 2013, 11:43 AM) F...   Jun 10 2013, 09:53 AM
- - mgrover   Who else around those weight classes would be an A...   Jun 10 2013, 02:34 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 10 2013, 11:34 AM) W...   Jun 10 2013, 05:50 PM
- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 10 2013, 11:50 PM) ...   Jun 11 2013, 01:41 PM


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