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post Jun 17 2013, 08:37 AM
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So the rumors are true about ward wanting to get out of his contract with Dan. Now there is more rumors saying Wards first choice for a promoter would be top rank. Makes sense since hes an HBO fighter, prince has some ties to top rank, and ward also commentates on HBO. Also most of the MW, SMW, and LHW are on HBO.

And here of course is the elephant in the room, Chavez is under TR.

Is this a good move? Bad move? Smart? Did Andre get rattled by froch and floyds comments about him not being able to sell? Thoughts...
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post Jun 17 2013, 11:21 AM
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Leaving Goosen at this point, is a good idea. Possibly moving to TR...ahhh, I'm not so sure. If he signs a 2-year deal with Bob, then he better get ready for the underhanded mess that takes place with most TR at the 11th hour of their contract ending...getting coerced into taking a contract extension. It's happened to Donaire, Chavez, and a few others as of late.

Honestly, TR may not be able to do anything with Ward, let alone any other promoters. It's obvious nowadays, that a black fighter has to market himself and reach out to his fan base in a manner in which most promoters deem "informal".

Free agency is a good thing for Ward, but ONLY if he's able to land the Chavez fight and make a HUGE impact. Granted, he may have to take the smaller split of the money, but he'll be lucky to land that fight against a TR fight, while under free agency.

Mayweather's words has little to do with this. Ward has a family and he realizes that he cant box forever, so its best to make as much money per fight, as possible. Im not saying that Floyd has NOTHING to do with it, because Im sure that his numbers and paydays have motivated more than a few fighters...hence how guys wanna stay undefeated and try to land big fights, so they avoid the dangerous B-level fighters in their division.
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post Jun 17 2013, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 17 2013, 12:21 PM) *
Leaving Goosen at this point, is a good idea. Possibly moving to TR...ahhh, I'm not so sure. If he signs a 2-year deal with Bob, then he better get ready for the underhanded mess that takes place with most TR at the 11th hour of their contract ending...getting coerced into taking a contract extension. It's happened to Donaire, Chavez, and a few others as of late.

Honestly, TR may not be able to do anything with Ward, let alone any other promoters. It's obvious nowadays, that a black fighter has to market himself and reach out to his fan base in a manner in which most promoters deem "informal".

Free agency is a good thing for Ward, but ONLY if he's able to land the Chavez fight and make a HUGE impact. Granted, he may have to take the smaller split of the money, but he'll be lucky to land that fight against a TR fight, while under free agency.

Mayweather's words has little to do with this. Ward has a family and he realizes that he cant box forever, so its best to make as much money per fight, as possible. Im not saying that Floyd has NOTHING to do with it, because Im sure that his numbers and paydays have motivated more than a few fighters...hence how guys wanna stay undefeated and try to land big fights, so they avoid the dangerous B-level fighters in their division.


Can't land that Chavez fight w/o being in bed w/ the Bobfather. Think about it: why would the Bobfather let Ward walk in, fleece his flock and bounce? You're right, Floyd does, IMO, have a small, but significant part in this. Look at the deal he has acquired, Ward wants that for him and his and unfortunately, it doesn't look like Teflon Dan can acquire this for him.

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post Jun 17 2013, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Jun 17 2013, 11:07 AM) *
Can't land that Chavez fight w/o being in bed w/ the Bobfather. Think about it: why would the Bobfather let Ward walk in, fleece his flock and bounce? You're right, Floyd does, IMO, have a small, but significant part in this. Look at the deal he has acquired, Ward wants that for him and his and unfortunately, it doesn't look like Teflon Dan can acquire this for him.

Al Haymon is a good choice too. Bob Arum is not the promoter for black fighters. Haymon is though. Arum is a snake...everybody knows that.
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post Jun 17 2013, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (Juice @ Jun 17 2013, 04:21 PM) *
Al Haymon is a good choice too. Bob Arum is not the promoter for black fighters. Haymon is though. Arum is a snake...everybody knows that.


Haymon and Arum would never do business together. And Haymon mostly does business with showtime. Most of the notable MW SMW and LHW as said before fight on HBO. But youre right. Al Haymon is the ideal manager for black fighters.

I think Ward should sign with DiBella. DiBella did great with Sergio Martinez career. I mean this was a man thats been shitted on in his controversial loses, shitted on by HBO, the WBC, and DiBella still managed to bring him to the top WAY after his prime. DiBella got him the right fights. Martinez barely had any fan base. And DiBella/Haymon promoted Andre Berto fairly well too. Bt i dont think DiBella ENT. does business with golden boy anymore either.
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- checkleft   Andre Ward looking to sign with Top Rank   Jun 17 2013, 08:37 AM
- - MAHDI   ward has said and now is doing things that In my v...   Jun 17 2013, 10:27 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 17 2013, 05:37 AM)...   Jun 17 2013, 11:04 AM
- - Cshel86   Leaving Goosen at this point, is a good idea. Poss...   Jun 17 2013, 11:21 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 17 2013, 12:21 PM) L...   Jun 17 2013, 01:07 PM
|- - Juice   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Jun 17 2013, 11:07 A...   Jun 17 2013, 03:21 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (Juice @ Jun 17 2013, 04:21 PM) Al ...   Jun 17 2013, 06:23 PM
- - daprofessor   ward has that squeaky clean image and smile that a...   Jun 17 2013, 02:25 PM
- - Franchize   Ward will find out quick that Bob only wants to sh...   Jun 17 2013, 07:20 PM
- - checkleft   I agree with most of you on here. I don't see ...   Jun 17 2013, 07:24 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 17 2013, 07:24 PM)...   Jun 17 2013, 10:24 PM
- - mrchitown   Froch wasn't even able to get under his skin w...   Jun 17 2013, 08:31 PM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 17 2013, 08:36 P...   Jun 17 2013, 09:00 PM
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|- - wolterb   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 18 2013, 02:57 P...   Jun 19 2013, 09:57 AM
- - Junior80   I hope to god ward doesn't sign with that piec...   Jun 17 2013, 09:06 PM
|- - Plah   QUOTE (Junior80 @ Jun 17 2013, 10:06 PM) ...   Jun 18 2013, 12:26 PM
|- - Junior80   QUOTE (Plah @ Jun 18 2013, 01:26 PM) Arum...   Jun 18 2013, 03:06 PM
- - MAHDI   [quote name='Franchize' date='Jun 17 2...   Jun 19 2013, 09:00 AM
- - xxxxxx   Andre Ward needs to forget 168 and start looking t...   Jun 19 2013, 01:38 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Jun 19 2013, 02:38 PM) An...   Jun 19 2013, 02:12 PM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 19 2013, 02:12 PM)...   Jun 20 2013, 12:38 AM
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- - Genius   Frankly I don't think any promoter or anyone c...   Jun 20 2013, 02:45 AM
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- - wolterb   I think Ward has earned himself a little bit of sa...   Jun 21 2013, 08:06 AM
- - MAHDI   Ward should move up and fight Adonis... 168 is dea...   Jun 21 2013, 09:09 AM
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- - MaxPayne   Ward is in a very, very tough spot. He doesn...   Jun 24 2013, 04:49 AM
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- - Hotsauce   arum: sign with me bradley and you will get the ma...   Jun 25 2013, 09:45 PM
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