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post Jun 18 2013, 11:22 AM
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The more Bernard Hopkins beats up on young prime guys at 175, the more legit he makes the Calzaghe win for Calzaghe. Everyone says that Calzaghe beat a well past it Hopkins and its really starting to look like Hopkins is still very good. Hopkins was just a young 43 years old at the time. Maybe Calzaghe was really very good. Something to think about...

Antonio Tarver ruined Roy Jones Jr. Tarver was the 1st decent fighter Jones fought with a height and reach advantage. Jones was very uncomfortable because he was getting hit on his way out and cornered. No weight drain, issues. PUNCH issues. Tarver was hitting him where he normally didnt get hit in the 1st fight. The second fight, he got caught with a huge shot on his way out of a corner. When fighting smaller guys, the Jones trick works. Fighting a big southpaw who is gonna swing even if he hits air, cost him. He was/is gun shy ever since. Probably should have retired after the 1st fight. His legacy is shot.

Mayweather also has matchup issues with guys who are bigger than him, who can touch him on his way out. He's actually smart enough not to have made those matches. Margarito and Williams come to mind. He took the DLH fight for the $$ aspect. He lost rounds when Oscar used his reach with jabs and straights. Oscar could hit Mayweather at range. In the Alvarez fight, Floyd has a significant reach advantage. THATS why the fight got made. What Floyd is banking on is that Alvarez is slow and can be outworked at range for 12 rounds. He may have miscalculated, like many did with the Trout fight for Canelo. Canelo is deceptively fast. That speed also has teeth. Dont be shocked if Mayweather sees canvas and/or gets stopped. Trout was bigger and stronger(allegedly) and couldnt avaiod those deceptively fast return fire punches.

The Klit brothers are top 5 all time heavyweights. They beat a who's who of the division today. Of course the boo birds will come out and say the division aint shit now. Kinda tough to tell because the Klits have so dominated the era. Nobody has emerged because they've been beaten back so badly. If the Klits werent there, we'd posibly get some decent fights between decent fighters. The 90's heavyweights, Ray Mercer, Morrison, Holy, Tyson, Moorer, Foreman, Lewis, Bowe were good fighters. With the exception of Lewis and Bowe, the Klits dominate the rest of the division similarly to their dominance today. Same with the 80's and 70's. It will be 20 years down the line when we appreciate these guys for their skills and dominance.

BRONER(AKA Mayweather Jr Jr) will not eclipse Mayweather. He will not be given the free passes that Mayweather got coming up. He will have to fight the best guys at 147 and quickly because people have already seen his show and didn't really like it the 1st time around with his daddy. In actually fighting the best, he will get clipped. Its inevitable. You know the saying, "Fool me once..." The world will not empty their pockets for a clone of a guy.
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post Jun 25 2013, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 24 2013, 11:37 PM) *
Cshels, what do you think the smokescreen is? Checkleft thinks Garcia is fighting Judah again. I have no idea why this fight has not be signed. Maybe this will be the co main event for The One.... that title sucks ass!

If they pumpfaked us numerous times with the megafight, based off church mouse whispers, then surely they can grab us by the balls with the whole, "Oh yesss, yes, yes, we actually are working veddy veddy hard on Danny Garcia to step in ageenst Lucus MaTThysssse fight. It's almost cumplete, oh yes, it is, thees will be thee biggest fight of the fall time. I'm almost posi-tive! Oh yes" -Richard Shaeffer
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post Jun 25 2013, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 25 2013, 02:20 PM) *
If they pumpfaked us numerous times with the megafight, based off church mouse whispers, then surely they can grab us by the balls with the whole, "Oh yesss, yes, yes, we actually are working veddy veddy hard on Danny Garcia to step in ageenst Lucus MaTThysssse fight. It's almost cumplete, oh yes, it is, thees will be thee biggest fight of the fall time. I'm almost posi-tive! Oh yes" -Richard Shaeffer


the problems:

-matthysse and garcia are the top two guys in the division and al haymon has both.

-they're not going to make the kind of money that this fight is worth.

-al haymon cannot possibly have the best interest of both men in mind.

-zab judah is a mistake of an opponent for danny to rematch.


the solution:

-this fight doesn't need to marinate anymore....it's now or never.
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- The Original MrFactor   Random Thoughts...   Jun 18 2013, 11:22 AM
- - mgrover   Joe never beat Hopkins, that fight was a gift for ...   Jun 18 2013, 11:39 AM
- - mitukczuk   I disagree with almost everything you wrote, but t...   Jun 18 2013, 11:55 AM
- - daprofessor   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jun 18 2013, 1...   Jun 18 2013, 02:10 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 18 2013, 03:10 P...   Jun 18 2013, 03:43 PM
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|- - mitukczuk   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 18 2013, 02:10 P...   Jun 18 2013, 03:44 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Jun 18 2013, 04:44 PM)...   Jun 18 2013, 03:58 PM
|- - mitukczuk   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jun 18 2013, 0...   Jun 18 2013, 04:08 PM
- - daprofessor   since we're on random thoughts...i may as well...   Jun 18 2013, 02:28 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 18 2013, 03:28 P...   Jun 18 2013, 03:50 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jun 18 2013, 0...   Jun 18 2013, 04:51 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jun 18 2013, 0...   Jun 18 2013, 06:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 18 2013, 07:24 PM)...   Jun 18 2013, 06:42 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   RJJ had that kind of decision power too. If he was...   Jun 18 2013, 10:17 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jun 18 2013, 1...   Jun 19 2013, 01:39 PM
- - Franchize   QUOTE The more Bernard Hopkins beats up on young p...   Jun 18 2013, 11:50 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 19 2013, 12:50 AM)...   Jun 19 2013, 12:33 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jun 19 2013, 1...   Jun 19 2013, 02:36 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jun 19 2013, 1...   Jun 19 2013, 12:55 AM
- - checkleft   And dlh didn't give may many problems at range...   Jun 19 2013, 01:00 AM
- - mrchitown   I'll never understand how Calzaghe got the nod...   Jun 19 2013, 02:21 AM
- - anthonyaccurate   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jun 18 2013, 1...   Jun 19 2013, 05:27 AM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Jun 19 2013, 06...   Jun 19 2013, 08:51 AM
- - Dolimite   My Random Thoughts: 1. Why are people still bring...   Jun 19 2013, 11:09 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 19 2013, 12:09 PM) ...   Jun 19 2013, 06:12 PM
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