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Dolimite
post Jun 25 2013, 01:42 PM
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Kirkland got his contract with GB voided. I guess it is good news. I wonder who will he sign with. The first thing he needs to do is get Al Haymon to manage him, this way he can still fight the 154 fighters that Golden Boy has. Second, he needs to get a legit trainer. I do respect with Anne Wolfe (I think that is the only woman Chi is afraid of), but he needs a trainer. I am thinking someone that can really work on his defense and punches, why not Jeff Mayweather? Or even Virgil Hunter? I am glad Kirkland is getting his career in order, I always liked James.
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post Jun 28 2013, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 27 2013, 04:09 PM) *
you're talking like most fighters are educated and actually read their contracts. these contracts are not as simple as one would think. they are vague and carefully worded to allow loop holes and unless you're a lawyer or someone who makes their living dealing with contracts, it's easy to be duped. hell...even ppl who sign mortgage contracts get duped. didn't we just go through a housing crisis where a shit load of ppl across the country loss their houses? the thing with most fighters is that these guys are typically from the streets with very little education. i disagree that he should lay down when they don't keep their promises verbal or otherwise. him asking for what they promised is holding them accountable. he showed up to fight and got in that ring. each time he puts his life on the line. he should be paid properly. there are no do overs in this. if he feels he can do better else where...so be it. i agree, he seems like the type that needs a short leash. i can tell you some stories about some of the guys that i dealt with in the past that never made it to kirklands level but definitely had the potential. some of the best guys i've come across are self sabotaging. you really have to protect them from themselves. truth is...even on some of the teams i was a part of in situations like that, where u would think relationships are tight and ppl are looking out for their best interests, blah,blah,blah...there is always someone looking to get over at the expense of the fighter. it's really sad and cut throat. i can't blame kirkland for looking out for himself.

Aren't all contracts, loans, and anything else with small print, filled with loop holes? Being from the streets shouldn't excuse one from not knowing what they're getting themselves into. It's just like that in their world (the streets), if you dont know anybody or the rules of the streets, then stay away from them, until you're in the clear.

If some unknown into Kirkland's world (the streets), he's not gonna make it easy for them. If they dont know streets rules (which change on a dime, or to somebody's satisfaction), then the streets will eat you up. Contracts, loans, etc., are no different...they're just legal (to a degree), and you're subject to whatever you sign off on, regardless of whether or not you fully understand it.

I dont understand how a guy from the streets, think that cut throat shit is only limited to the streets, and like it's not exercised in corporate America. None of these big companies or rich men, got to where they are, by being nice and fair. You think Donald Trump's ass would be rich, if he played by the rules? Speaking of rich people...I wanna see some of their freakin' tax write-offs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 27 2013, 06:01 PM) *
There's no shame in getting your ass beat by Ann lol that's a big girl.

Just hit that hoe wit a body shot!
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- Dolimite   Free at Last Free at Last James Kirkland is free at last   Jun 25 2013, 01:42 PM
- - Cshel86   Let's not get too excited here...he just got a...   Jun 25 2013, 01:54 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 25 2013, 02:54 PM) L...   Jun 25 2013, 02:11 PM
- - daprofessor   if he signs with haymon...all will be good. he...   Jun 25 2013, 07:10 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 25 2013, 07:10 P...   Jun 26 2013, 02:10 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 26 2013, 03:10 AM)...   Jun 26 2013, 01:58 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 01:58 P...   Jun 26 2013, 04:35 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 26 2013, 05:35 PM)...   Jun 26 2013, 05:00 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 02:00 P...   Jun 26 2013, 05:19 PM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 05:00 P...   Jun 26 2013, 09:42 PM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 27 2013, 02:53 P...   Jun 27 2013, 08:25 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 27 2013, 06:25 PM)...   Jun 28 2013, 09:54 AM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 27 2013, 08:25 PM)...   Jun 28 2013, 01:57 PM
- - mgrover   seems like another wasted talent.   Jun 25 2013, 07:21 PM
- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 25 2013, 01:42 PM) ...   Jun 26 2013, 02:13 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 25 2013, 08:10 P...   Jun 26 2013, 08:46 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 26 2013, 09:46 AM)...   Jun 26 2013, 02:01 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 25 2013, 11:10 PM)...   Jun 26 2013, 09:21 AM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 26 2013, 02:35 PM) ...   Jun 26 2013, 04:40 PM
- - xxxxxx   Hopefully Kirkland get get his act together quickl...   Jun 26 2013, 09:22 AM
- - Cshel86   Forget about him...he's done. As you guys have...   Jun 26 2013, 10:16 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 26 2013, 10:21 AM) ...   Jun 26 2013, 04:43 PM
- - daprofessor   from lem satterfields article... QUOTE "The ...   Jun 26 2013, 06:50 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 04:50 P...   Jun 26 2013, 08:03 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 26 2013, 10:49 PM)...   Jun 26 2013, 10:13 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 26 2013, 10:13 PM)...   Jun 27 2013, 11:46 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 27 2013, 08:46 AM)...   Jun 27 2013, 12:33 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 06:00 P...   Jun 27 2013, 09:34 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 27 2013, 09:34 AM) T...   Jun 27 2013, 03:09 PM
- - Cshel86   ^^^ D, dont get him started bro!   Jun 27 2013, 02:18 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 27 2013, 12:18 PM) ^...   Jun 27 2013, 02:24 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 27 2013, 02:24 PM) ...   Jun 27 2013, 02:47 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 27 2013, 03:47 PM)...   Jun 27 2013, 05:01 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 27 2013, 05:01 PM)...   Jun 27 2013, 07:46 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 27 2013, 04:09 P...   Jun 28 2013, 10:04 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 28 2013, 10:04 AM) A...   Jun 28 2013, 01:59 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 28 2013, 02:59 P...   Jul 1 2013, 08:34 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 1 2013, 08:34 PM) I ...   Jul 2 2013, 06:33 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jul 2 2013, 07:33 PM) ...   Jul 2 2013, 09:35 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Kirkland seems like the kind of guy who needs to s...   Jul 1 2013, 09:01 PM


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