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> Free at Last Free at Last James Kirkland is free at last
daprofessor
post Jun 26 2013, 06:50 PM
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from lem satterfields article...

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"The Judge ruled that Golden Boy's contract extensions were illegal. So, instead of having him under contract through October of 2015, Kirkland will be free from Golden Boy on October 15, 2013," stated Gary in an an e-mail on Monday.

"Trial is still set for October 8, 2013 to resolve the remaining issues. Kirkland is suing Golden Boy for being paid less than his contracted minimum on three occasions, and Golden Boy is counter-suing Kirkland for suing them... This is a major victory for the fighter."
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post Jun 26 2013, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 04:50 PM) *
from lem satterfields article...

Why be loyal to snakes?
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post Jun 26 2013, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 05:00 PM) *
so was golden boy disloyal for saying the winner of kirkland/angulo gets canelo...only to match canelo against someone else?

were they loyal for paying him less than what he should have been paid for that fight?

were they loyal for offering him peanuts on short notice to fight canelo and trying to force the fight when they knew he had a bad shoulder?

don't bite the hand that feeds you but if that hand is smacking the shit out of you turn the other cheek? loyalty works both ways imo.


Loyalty does work both ways but your logic seems off. If someone is disloyal to you the you cut them off. I'm not going to be disloyal to someone even though they are to me. You just keep it moving. That's little 4th grade shit, this person did this so I'm gonna do that. I'd never compromise my morals just because someone shows a lack of them.

What did he do to deserve more cash to fight Canelo, it's obvious they've been trying to cash out on him Since he got ko'd by that kid who couldn't break wind. But he had an excuse for that too as we all heard. He never had a problem with anything until he lost or shit didn't go his way. GB did some stupid stuff and they will continue to do so, I think they gon try to cash out on a few of their fighters soon like Khan.

But it's something to be said when someone is down to allegedly get screwed over cuz they winning but win they lose they throw hissy fits and blame others. The way he puts the losses off on Others reminds me of Chad Dawson. He needs to take some accountability for what he does, now look at him. He may have one something in this case bug let's see how that criminal case goes.
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post Jun 26 2013, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 26 2013, 05:19 PM) *
I can I get an Amen


I do not hate Broner Chi, I hate his antics and his fuck shit is off the charts. His sportmanship is terrible. I just think if he does not get his shit together he could be another tragedy.

Aaron Hernandez is officially off my fantasy team. Such a waste. Checkleft, that had to be the dumbest thing someone could of done. I have no idea what the dude did to get murked, but surely it wasn't worth it. Sad.

James Kirkland still has a shot...a very small one but still he has a chance.


Broner is a better fighter then Kirkland therefore he will get afforded more opportunities then Kirkland. Outside the ring they both leave something to be desired. I. Sorry but you and professor keep spewing this bullshit when this cat supposedly beat on a female. People were all over it when Floyd supposedly did it. He ain't worth the risk. He a career criminal. A damn nine time felon who can't get his shit together. I see what you and professor are saying but the fact that they helped this man before in his legal troubles trumps all that they didn't mistreat him until he did the shit. They are technically just as petty as he is. I'm glad he won the case and I think GB should've let him go. I can't wait to see how it plays out and where he ends up. But karma is a mutha and he will feel it

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post Jun 26 2013, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 26 2013, 10:49 PM) *
Broner is a better fighter then Kirkland therefore he will get afforded more opportunities then Kirkland. Outside the ring they both leave something to be desired. I. Sorry but you and professor keep spewing this bullshit when this cat supposedly beat on a female. People were all over it when Floyd supposedly did it. He ain't worth the risk. He a career criminal. A damn nine time felon who can't get his shit together. I see what you and professor are saying but the fact that they helped this man before in his legal troubles trumps all that they didn't mistreat him until he did the shit. They are technically just as petty as he is. I'm glad he won the case and I think GB should've let him go. I can't wait to see how it plays out and where he ends up. But karma is a mutha and he will feel it

Yea gbp should have let him go or gave him the extra cash for the canelo fight.. but going and turning on Ann and everyone else wasn't the right move. You could tell Ann legitimately cared for the guy and wanted nothing but the best for him.

I'm glad he won based on the terms of his contract but it seems like every time he isn't boxing this dude gets arrested. And I doubt he doesn't do time for this.

And there's almost 0 chance Ann takes him back. He had to beg to get her back last time he got arrested and she don't seem like the type to take any shit
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post Jun 27 2013, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 06:00 PM) *
so was golden boy disloyal for saying the winner of kirkland/angulo gets canelo...only to match canelo against someone else?

were they loyal for paying him less than what he should have been paid for that fight?

were they loyal for offering him peanuts on short notice to fight canelo and trying to force the fight when they knew he had a bad shoulder?

don't bite the hand that feeds you but if that hand is smacking the shit out of you turn the other cheek? loyalty works both ways imo.

They could've just not picked him up at all, to be honest. They extended to olive branch to felon with loose screws in his head. I'm not saying that all felons don't deserve a chance, but Kirkland has the mind frame of a 15 year old. Imagine if GBP would've just dropped him suddenly...do you think he'd be acting a fool about not making those "peanuts" that they offered him, or would he simply suck it up and move on?

Let's not act like he got out of prison and just went straight to the gym and locked himself in. Dude was out in Vegas living it up, partying, etc., something that he should've put on pause until he got back in the swing of things. Seriously though, guys like Kirkland should not be allowed to think on his own...because bad things usually follow.

I hate to make him sound like an animal, but probation is always good for guys like him, just to keep him honest and at least give him the urge to think before he does things. I doubt if he was offered peanuts, because most felons aren't even promised that much, when they're released into society.

Though it appears that GBP was doing him a bad number, he still has to face the fact that he was under contract. I hate when fighters start pissing and moaning about what they're promoters are/aren't doing, and so on...but didn't THEY sign the contract to be promoted? We can talk about him getting shafted and offered peanuts, but he DID sign the contract, so to a degree, he knew what he was up against.

I had strong idea of what I was up against, when I signed off on that loan for my house. I knew that I had to maintain employment, in order to make my payments. Now, are my payments EXACTLY what I think they are? Nope...the principal, escrow, and interest rates, breaks it all down...and in reality, I'm not really making the "full" payments that I think I'm making on a monthly basis. With that in mind, I may not like it, and i do need a roof over my head, so I know to not do stupid stuff on the job and lose my income...and in turn, I lose my house, and everything else, if I dont bounce back in time.

The same goes for fighters when they sign these contracts. I know that most of them are wet behind the ears, they come from nothing, and they want it all, but know what you signed up for. Not only does he have a problem with staying active, he has/had problems with his contract/promoters, and he's too loose upstairs to function in society. He may have won the court case, but he still needs to mental capacity to function in society.
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post Jun 27 2013, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 26 2013, 10:13 PM) *
Yea gbp should have let him go or gave him the extra cash for the canelo fight.. but going and turning on Ann and everyone else wasn't the right move. You could tell Ann legitimately cared for the guy and wanted nothing but the best for him.

I'm glad he won based on the terms of his contract but it seems like every time he isn't boxing this dude gets arrested. And I doubt he doesn't do time for this.

And there's almost 0 chance Ann takes him back. He had to beg to get her back last time he got arrested and she don't seem like the type to take any shit


Wolfe js/was the best trainer for him, no one will get out of him what she was able to. I think she genuinely wanted to help him. I do t see a scenario where she agrees to work with him again. He has issues and they go way beyond just jail stints. He wants to do away with everybody, Wolfe, GB, Dunkin and the other manager. He loses now all of a sudden its a conspiracy against him. Who does hour think he is Kirkland X? He's too much of a liability the only time he seems on track is when he's training for a fight. He's a nightmare to deal with as a trainer and a promoter
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post Jun 27 2013, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 27 2013, 08:46 AM) *
Wolfe js/was the best trainer for him, no one will get out of him what she was able to. I think she genuinely wanted to help him. I do t see a scenario where she agrees to work with him again. He has issues and they go way beyond just jail stints. He wants to do away with everybody, Wolfe, GB, Dunkin and the other manager. He loses now all of a sudden its a conspiracy against him. Who does hour think he is Kirkland X? He's too much of a liability the only time he seems on track is when he's training for a fight. He's a nightmare to deal with as a trainer and a promoter


So you admit, that Anne Wolf would in fact beat your Southside Chicago ass?
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post Jun 27 2013, 02:18 PM
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^^^

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D, dont get him started bro!
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post Jun 27 2013, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 27 2013, 12:18 PM) *
^^^

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D, dont get him started bro!

Cshels so who you pick? Chi or Wolfe? My money all of it is on Wolfe.
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