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Dolimite
post Jun 30 2013, 11:33 AM
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http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-maywea...nt-fight--67178

I don't have a problem with GGG wanting Mayweather, however, he is a 160 fighter and there is plenty of fighters that he should be concentrating on. Peter Kid Chocolate Quillen, Sergio Martinez and a few others. he is saying he would come down to 154 but still. If Mayweather says no to GGG, it s a duck and he is scared. Like the late great Manny Steward would say: We have weight classes for a reason.

Any thoughts?
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post Jul 1 2013, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 1 2013, 04:23 PM) *
i hear what you're saying...there will always be another feat. ppl will always raise the bar on floyd. but lets be honest....when was the last time floyd took a fight that he wasn't favored to win? i can't remember....and with no one on the horizon at 147 or 154...i'm really not excited about his last 5 fights. there's no one on the short list that stands out as special who can possibly test him. with the way he dispatched guerrero...he turned back the clock! i don't see anyone beating him from 140-154. why not step up to a bigger challenge? i'm not saying it needs to be his next fight....but it would be great to see him try to accomplish the impossible. i'm not saying it has to be ggg...even though i believe he's the most dangerous guy at 160...i'd like to see floyd try and win a title at 160. i don't think it's a stretch either. what floyd lacks in size...he more than makes up for in skill and speed. you're right...his legacy is cemented at this point. he is the best of this era....but he likes to say he's the best ever. i'd like to see him try and prove it....and i don't believe a strap at 160 is an unachievable goal for him.

Is it fair to punish Floyd for his dominance over the years and the lack of high risk fights? he can not create a tough opponent for him. he can only fight what the crop of fighters that are out now. People will bitch and say that Manny was his true test, but real boxing fans know that May would of won that fight fairly easy. Paul Williams is another person they bring up but I believed he had a short retirement when people were calling for them to fight. Also, Paul Williams is a taller version of Brandon Rios.

So you are saying for Floyd to be an ATG he must have a belt at 160/ those other ATG body was totally different and they were not small like Floyd, but I don't want to make excuses. I just don't see the point. I mean the guy can't even make 154. I don't think it is necessary
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post Jul 2 2013, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jul 1 2013, 11:41 PM) *
Is it fair to punish Floyd for his dominance over the years and the lack of high risk fights? he can not create a tough opponent for him. he can only fight what the crop of fighters that are out now. People will bitch and say that Manny was his true test, but real boxing fans know that May would of won that fight fairly easy. Paul Williams is another person they bring up but I believed he had a short retirement when people were calling for them to fight. Also, Paul Williams is a taller version of Brandon Rios.

So you are saying for Floyd to be an ATG he must have a belt at 160/ those other ATG body was totally different and they were not small like Floyd, but I don't want to make excuses. I just don't see the point. I mean the guy can't even make 154. I don't think it is necessary


henry armstrong was 5'5 with 67" reach

roberto duran is 5'7 with 66" reach

armstrong fought robinson who was much bigger at 5'11 with a 72" reach

duran fought leonard, hearns, hagler, barkley and joppy who were all much bigger men.

why are we babying floyd? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jul 2 2013, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 2 2013, 10:11 PM) *
henry armstrong was 5'5 with 67" reach

roberto duran is 5'7 with 66" reach

armstrong fought robinson who was much bigger at 5'11 with a 72" reach

duran fought leonard, hearns, hagler, barkley and joppy who were all much bigger men.

why are we babying floyd? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


I don't think we're babying him, why is he being asked to do what they did....did we ask it of Kostya or Zab to go to 160?? It's ok because it's Floyd but JMM isn't asked to go to 160 and fight GGG....the double standard is on.

It is our own problem that we tend to bestow expectations that are not the norm upon someone simply because they stand out head and shoulders above those in their own perspective weight class.

Pacquiao isn't being asked to go to 160 but Floyd is, greatness is a blessing and a curse if this is the standard we have to hold Money to just to find someone who may be able to beat him.
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post Jul 3 2013, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jul 3 2013, 12:06 AM) *
I don't think we're babying him, why is he being asked to do what they did....did we ask it of Kostya or Zab to go to 160?? It's ok because it's Floyd but JMM isn't asked to go to 160 and fight GGG....the double standard is on.

It is our own problem that we tend to bestow expectations that are not the norm upon someone simply because they stand out head and shoulders above those in their own perspective weight class.

Pacquiao isn't being asked to go to 160 but Floyd is, greatness is a blessing and a curse if this is the standard we have to hold Money to just to find someone who may be able to beat him.



kt couldn't get past cool vince and zab couldn't get past kt. why would they even be asked? neither guy is anywhere near floyds level.

pac's shit was smoke and mirrors. he couldn't get past jmm and didn't want to face floyd. he would have got gatti'd by floyd anyway.

floyd clearly stands alone. he's raised the bar. he can be content to stay in his comfort zone of fighting guys knowledgeable fans know can't beat him...or he can challenge himself and dare to be great.

who thought clay would beat liston?

who thought ali would beat foreman?

who thought duran would beat leonard?

who thought leonard would beat hagler?

all of these guys are all time greats and they accomplished the impossible to achieve that status. floyd hasn't accomplished the impossible in his career. i see a perfect record...and what he did at 135 and below is amazing. what's he's done above is good. i'd like to see him outdo himself. i don't think that's asking too much.
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post Jul 3 2013, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 3 2013, 02:45 PM) *
kt couldn't get past cool vince and zab couldn't get past kt. why would they even be asked? neither guy is anywhere near floyds level.

pac's shit was smoke and mirrors. he couldn't get past jmm and didn't want to face floyd. he would have got gatti'd by floyd anyway.

floyd clearly stands alone. he's raised the bar. he can be content to stay in his comfort zone of fighting guys knowledgeable fans know can't beat him...or he can challenge himself and dare to be great.

who thought clay would beat liston?

who thought ali would beat foreman?

who thought duran would beat leonard?

who thought leonard would beat hagler?

all of these guys are all time greats and they accomplished the impossible to achieve that status. floyd hasn't accomplished the impossible in his career. i see a perfect record...and what he did at 135 and below is amazing. what's he's done above is good. i'd like to see him outdo himself. i don't think that's asking too much.



I say to your entire post: "So What"!!

I think he's good enough to continue to rise as do you but does that mean he should? Does that mean we're babying him when we're clearly not asking others regardless of how great or how unimportant they have been in the sport? All of these are rhetorical questions but I'm sure you can provide an answer, it's just that I happen to think what he's done moving up as far as he did and beating far bigger fighter most of his career is enough.

If it is enough for Pac, JMM and others then it should be more than enough for Mayweather, I think we're asking too much of him/please consider how small he is, how old he is and how long he's been in this sport.

Who else has been asked at his age coming from his low of a weight to move up and take on much larger boxers??
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