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Dolimite
post Jun 30 2013, 11:33 AM
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http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-maywea...nt-fight--67178

I don't have a problem with GGG wanting Mayweather, however, he is a 160 fighter and there is plenty of fighters that he should be concentrating on. Peter Kid Chocolate Quillen, Sergio Martinez and a few others. he is saying he would come down to 154 but still. If Mayweather says no to GGG, it s a duck and he is scared. Like the late great Manny Steward would say: We have weight classes for a reason.

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daprofessor
post Jul 8 2013, 02:04 PM
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if floyd's undefeated record is what we point to as a measure of his success....why is it wrong to bring up roberto durans run? joe calzaghe went 46-0. are we to believe he is great because he did so? he did it his own way as well. is his career better than roys and bhops? he beat the both of them. or should we not hold these guys to the same standards? is joe an atg? he's seemingly done well for himself too! i'm sure parents would love to have their kids emulate joecal. who wouldn't want their son to be like him? he's a role model too, isn't he? floyd is 44-0 w/26 ko's while joecal is 46-0 w/32 ko's. is joe greater than floyd?

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post Jul 17 2013, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 8 2013, 02:04 PM) *
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if floyd's undefeated record is what we point to as a measure of his success....why is it wrong to bring up roberto durans run? joe calzaghe went 46-0. are we to believe he is great because he did so? he did it his own way as well. is his career better than roys and bhops? he beat the both of them. or should we not hold these guys to the same standards? is joe an atg? he's seemingly done well for himself too! i'm sure parents would love to have their kids emulate joecal. who wouldn't want their son to be like him? he's a role model too, isn't he? floyd is 44-0 w/26 ko's while joecal is 46-0 w/32 ko's. is joe greater than floyd?



Your first point is the reason why all the rest is a problem. What do i mean? Glad you asked; once again out of all the undefeated fighters in the sport we single out Floyd, why?? Yes it's wrong to bring up Duran's run, why? Because that was in Roberto's era, not now. Calzaghe had his time and though Hopkins and Roy has wins since that robbery and loss (BHop won IMHO and Roy just got his anus dusted), his best will always be viewed with some measure of taintedness concerning his win over Roy (some say he was way past his prime) and even moreso vs Hopkins (a fight many feel he lost) but barring the Castillo 1 fight (one in which Floyd easily avenged) nobody came close to beating Floyd and there is no controversy on how he got to where he is. Is Joe an ATG? Not in my opinion but maybe by some and in his era he will be viewed as such.

Is Floyd an ATG? Not in comparison with the greats of my time but to many in this generation/their era then he will be viewed as such easily, so everything that an individual states is up for discussion concerning greatness and the comparisons will always be made from then to now.

Is a 69 Chevelle better than a 2013 Charger?? Who knows, who chooses what? Subjective is the word, and the choice is your's.
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post Aug 7 2013, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jul 17 2013, 04:49 PM) *
Your first point is the reason why all the rest is a problem. What do i mean? Glad you asked; once again out of all the undefeated fighters in the sport we single out Floyd, why?? Yes it's wrong to bring up Duran's run, why? Because that was in Roberto's era, not now. Calzaghe had his time and though Hopkins and Roy has wins since that robbery and loss (BHop won IMHO and Roy just got his anus dusted), his best will always be viewed with some measure of taintedness concerning his win over Roy (some say he was way past his prime) and even moreso vs Hopkins (a fight many feel he lost) but barring the Castillo 1 fight (one in which Floyd easily avenged) nobody came close to beating Floyd and there is no controversy on how he got to where he is. Is Joe an ATG? Not in my opinion but maybe by some and in his era he will be viewed as such.

Is Floyd an ATG? Not in comparison with the greats of my time but to many in this generation/their era then he will be viewed as such easily, so everything that an individual states is up for discussion concerning greatness and the comparisons will always be made from then to now.

Is a 69 Chevelle better than a 2013 Charger?? Who knows, who chooses what? Subjective is the word, and the choice is your's.


a lot of ppl thought castillo beat floyd in the first fight. that was controversial.

joe...like floyd...has a lot of question marks around his reign because he didn't fight his best opponents at their peak. joecal's best win was over kessler or maybe lacy. one thing floyd has over joecal is longevity. the fact that he was fighter of the year in '98 and then again in '08....and he's still relevant and undefeated in '13 says a lot about him and the quality of his opposition.

as for the '69 chevelle compared to a '13 charger....there are several measurable factors that you can point to as evidence of which is better than the other. the thing you can't point to however, is what will that '13 charger be worth down the line? will it increase/decrease in value? the '69 chevelle is a classic collectible. only time will tell if the '13 charger will exceed the '69 chevelle. similarly...in boxing...only time will tell who's reign was greater...who's impact was more significant.
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