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Jack 1000
post Jul 2 2013, 01:37 PM
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I'm Not talking about Lampy's pom-poms now,

I am talking about the whole production, which is now shit. It began when HBO started using post-fight pieces that AFAIK were not in the original PPV closed-circuit production. Fake-ass camera angles, post-fight material. Nothing wrong with post-fight material, but it now looks like it was put together by a college film crew. The turn-off is now showing these little bios about the fighter in-between rounds. Save that shit for your pre-fight show. In fact, when I DVR fights, I go right to the MC announcement of the fighters. I don't need all that shit with the fighter's in-laws, what he ate for dinner, here's the HBO guy running, here he is sleeping. And so forth .

Some people like that stuff. But it's more of a distraction that a positive draw. The graphics on the screen, Steve Weisfield there? FOR WHAT!? Now you got Kellerman trying so hard to be like Merchant in post-fight interviews. But it's not working, at least not for me. I wish Lou Dibella was still there as boxing Department Matchmaker!

As many know, Lou pioneered the HBO Boxing after Dark Series with some of the best fights in recent memory. He worked hard to prevent mismatches, even though contractual obligations with certain fighters forced some of their shit to be shown. (Jones-Frazier....UGGHHH) The thing is, who is really in charge of HBO's boxing Department at this time? It's said Ken Hirshman's there. But I question how effectively he is connecting the sport to the fans. Rumblings of Dan Raphael being involved as some kind of consultant there strengthen the above points. HBO has to stop looking for the next great fighter and offer more competitive fights. Yes, I loved watching "Triple G's" KO of Macklin! It still does not take away the fact that now more than ever, HBO will cling to anything to find a star.

The cling to anything to find a star, started when Lou Dibella left the network. Ross Greenberg had tons of network experience, but never really was a fight fan guy like Dibella. The concept at HBO that continues to this day, is you have to be a likeable pretty boy. (This began with Jones and Delahoya) or a fighter who engages in wars all the time. (Gatti, Pacquiao.) Mayweather and other fine boxers saw this trend and left HBO for Showtime where they felt HBO was not giving them their proper respect. Forget the longevity of say the Klitchko's. They aren't exciting enough. (according to HBO.)

Worse, so many of the people who care are now retired or dead. It's a parallel with HBO now showing better movies than fights, and Showtime, who seems to be doing so much better than HBO, showing better fights and totally POS movies. HBO now has to hold onto Bob Arum's Top Rank and Dibella Entertainment as there main boxing show feeders. What does HBO need to do to get back to the position that it once held as a leading boxing network?

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post Jul 10 2013, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jul 10 2013, 02:41 PM) *
I'm not lying, I'm not saying he's GOAT at the voice over but Com is GOAT, I know that's probably hard for someone of your advanced age to accept but it's the truth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wtf.gif) Hell naw!!! I get that you love your chi town cats but come on Haha
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post Jul 10 2013, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Jul 10 2013, 03:20 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wtf.gif) Hell naw!!! I get that you love your chi town cats but come on Haha


I'm not based because he's from Chicago lol. You confusing me with professor, he's the one who thinks everything is cali is awesome. He was born in Chicago but he ain't Chicago lol

When I say Com is GOAT I'm saying emceeing, he's one of the tops to touch the mic, professor is a cali dry humper. don't feed into his bs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I liked his voice over work on the all access but i'm not saying he's better then the dude who did 24/7. His voice was perfect for that. I think Sam L Jackson would be good in this capacity as well
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post Jul 10 2013, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jul 10 2013, 05:03 PM) *
I'm not based because he's from Chicago lol. You confusing me with professor, he's the one who thinks everything is cali is awesome. He was born in Chicago but he ain't Chicago lol

When I say Com is GOAT I'm saying emceeing, he's one of the tops to touch the mic, professor is a cali dry humper. don't feed into his bs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I liked his voice over work on the all access but i'm not saying he's better then the dude who did 24/7. His voice was perfect for that. I think Sam L Jackson would be good in this capacity as well


don't be mad at me because i had the courage/intelligence to leave the chi. cali is the shit...i can't front. i'm a citizen of the world. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

com is not a goat emcee with his fake ass new york wannabe accent. don't nobody from the southside talk or sound like that cat and u know it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

sam jackson would be perfect!!! as would morgan freeman and many others. when them cats narrate...they don't sound like they're reading...and we don't have to wait for them to flip a page to finish a thought. i would think that common's huxtible like ass would be able to read better.
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post Jul 10 2013, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 10 2013, 05:38 PM) *
don't be mad at me because i had the courage/intelligence to leave the chi. cali is the shit...i can't front. i'm a citizen of the world. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

com is not a goat emcee with his fake ass new york wannabe accent. don't nobody from the southside talk or sound like that cat and u know it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

sam jackson would be perfect!!! as would morgan freeman and many others. when them cats narrate...they don't sound like they're reading...and we don't have to wait for them to flip a page to finish a thought. i would think that common's huxtible like ass would be able to read better.


I could never be mad at you for making a move you felt was necessary. A Lot of my friends who train fighters done moved there and keep trying to get me to move out thete
I won't front and say some years back that I didn't consider it

I'm saying for me, and many others, he's a goat on the mic. I think he's an avg actor but I can't take him too serious after that crap he put out with queen latifah. he has a movie bi watched on Netflix called luv, now that's a good one. He did well in it
He ain't a leading man type though hut musically I give him all the props in the world

So do you favor them switching it up or just keeping it the same? I'd like to see Jackson or Freeman get a run at it, that would be pretty cool
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post Jul 10 2013, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jul 10 2013, 07:05 PM) *
I could never be mad at you for making a move you felt was necessary. A Lot of my friends who train fighters done moved there and keep trying to get me to move out thete
I won't front and say some years back that I didn't consider it

I'm saying for me, and many others, he's a goat on the mic. I think he's an avg actor but I can't take him too serious after that crap he put out with queen latifah. he has a movie bi watched on Netflix called luv, now that's a good one. He did well in it
He ain't a leading man type though hut musically I give him all the props in the world

So do you favor them switching it up or just keeping it the same? I'd like to see Jackson or Freeman get a run at it, that would be pretty cool


i think them giving floyd executive producer credits on the show was great for him...but not so great for their future. not everyone can pull that off. it was cool in the beginning and it's nice seeing all the behind the scenes shit...but it's old. none of it is new. we know all about floyd now...the same way we knew all about pac on 24/7. how many times can that shit be rehashed? throwing common in there seemed like a good idea up front...but listening and watching...i felt it was a mistake. i'd like to see them try a few formulas to keep shit fresh. they do it with their commentary so why not? while we're at it... they need to get rid of that mma dude. he fucks up the commentary for me.

as for common...truth be told...he's one of my favorites but i can't bestow the goat label on him.
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