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post Jul 7 2013, 01:08 AM
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He picks Roach as his Trainer. I wonder if this was really a deep seeded move by HBO to get a star in that weight class on their network. I'd love to see Cotto go back to 147 and start getting with the Bradley's, Alexander's and Mayweather Jr Jr's of the world. He's not built for 154. PLEASE Miguel go back to 147 and become a bigger legend. he can beat all of the top guys at 147 and retire a stud.
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post Jul 7 2013, 04:23 PM
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im sick of all this virgil hunter bullshit, that guy is not the answer for every fighter, cotto has great defense already. amir khan and him do not mesh together watsoever, and khan has looked worse since joining him. At least roach had khans speed and offense dialed in to perfection, under hunter hes looked like a shell of his former self. virgil hunter cant just take any fighter and turn them into andre ward, ward would have been complete no matter who he trained with, just like floyd. they know how to fight instinctively, they were born to do it. enough with the pom poms
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post Jul 8 2013, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 7 2013, 04:23 PM) *
im sick of all this virgil hunter bullshit, that guy is not the answer for every fighter, cotto has great defense already. amir khan and him do not mesh together watsoever, and khan has looked worse since joining him. At least roach had khans speed and offense dialed in to perfection, under hunter hes looked like a shell of his former self. virgil hunter cant just take any fighter and turn them into andre ward, ward would have been complete no matter who he trained with, just like floyd. they know how to fight instinctively, they were born to do it. enough with the pom poms


Hunter is a great trainer and maybe the reason khan as you say has looked so bad is because he's not used to fighting as an actual pro style. I think you insult Hunter and other trainers when you compare what Roach did for khan as opposed to what Virgil is doing. Khan was mediocre before with and after Roach, his chin is the worst and there's no coaching that.

If I had a kid who wanted to box I'd take them to Hunter before Freddie, he's over rated in my eyes. I'd train with the under rated and under appreciated Jeff Mayweather before him. He's good but not as good as the media and others claim. Ward is a special talent but to say he'd be complete no matter who he trained with is disagreeable. It takes a good coach to cultivate and build on talent, and Ward is being trained by a master. It's few masters in the sport but there's no shortage of good trainers like a red die Roach or Robert Garcia. But people like Nazi Richardson and Virgil hunter are masters of their craft

Cotto has great defense lol? Yeah ok believe that if you want. Khan is an offensive fighter, Roach is good at these types of boxers, can't really name too many defensive studs coming out of the wild card gym. His combos are amateurish at best, he's a rinse, cycle and repeat guy. Ring IQ, defense, technique are just a few examples of what Hunter can and is trying to improve with Khan. Roach ain't doing none of that. As far as pom poms, people pompom the the heck out of Roach, I hope you take issue with that as well
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- The Original MrFactor   Cotto goes back to TopRank?!   Jul 7 2013, 01:08 AM
- - mrchitown   I said it all the time about Miguel, when stuff do...   Jul 7 2013, 01:57 AM
- - flazi   his last trainer was good for him. i don't se...   Jul 7 2013, 02:28 AM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (flazi @ Jul 7 2013, 03:28 AM) his ...   Jul 7 2013, 05:44 AM
|- - Plah   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jul 7 2013, 06...   Jul 7 2013, 11:13 AM
- - sduck   I don't get the mindless love. I mean I like C...   Jul 7 2013, 08:00 AM
- - wolterb   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jul 7 2013, 01...   Jul 7 2013, 12:03 PM
- - mgrover   All those wanting the 147 move, according to him ...   Jul 7 2013, 01:14 PM
- - Tray1201   Cotto done   Jul 7 2013, 02:22 PM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE (Tray1201 @ Jul 7 2013, 02:22 PM) C...   Jul 7 2013, 04:35 PM
- - Dolimite   It makes sense. If things for well for Pacquiao ag...   Jul 7 2013, 02:54 PM
- - klonopinz   im sick of all this virgil hunter bullshit, that g...   Jul 7 2013, 04:23 PM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 7 2013, 05:23 PM) ...   Jul 7 2013, 04:54 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 7 2013, 02:23 PM) ...   Jul 7 2013, 06:20 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 7 2013, 04:23 PM) ...   Jul 8 2013, 01:22 AM
- - HyyerBlaze   There goes any chance at a canelo/cotto fight. D...   Jul 7 2013, 06:21 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Jul 8 2013, 12:21 AM)...   Jul 7 2013, 06:53 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Jul 7 2013, 06:53 PM) I ...   Jul 8 2013, 01:29 AM
- - checkleft   Cotto should not have left Pedro. Would not be s...   Jul 7 2013, 11:14 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jul 8 2013, 12:14 AM) ...   Jul 8 2013, 12:43 AM
|- - xxxxxx   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jul 7 2013, 11:14 PM) ...   Jul 8 2013, 01:56 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 7 2013, 05:23 PM) ...   Jul 8 2013, 09:26 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 8 2013, 07:26 AM) Pf...   Jul 8 2013, 11:24 AM
- - Cshel86   I may be in the minority here, but Cotto's bad...   Jul 8 2013, 09:32 AM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 8 2013, 09:32 AM) I ...   Jul 10 2013, 01:25 AM
- - daprofessor   cotto has already had a brilliant career. any high...   Jul 8 2013, 01:40 PM
- - BigFightFan   Cotto is officially the most confused individual i...   Jul 8 2013, 06:11 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Jul 8 2013, 07:11 PM...   Jul 8 2013, 06:57 PM
- - klonopinz   those habits seem to have been there all of his ca...   Jul 8 2013, 09:42 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 8 2013, 10:42 PM) ...   Jul 10 2013, 03:02 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   Cotto used to be a killer body pucher. He ended fi...   Jul 9 2013, 12:02 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 8 2013, 06:57 PM...   Jul 9 2013, 12:15 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ Jul 9 2013, 01:15 AM) ...   Jul 10 2013, 03:04 PM
- - klonopinz   it had nothing to do with his uncle evangelista, i...   Jul 9 2013, 03:51 AM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 9 2013, 04:51 AM) ...   Jul 9 2013, 06:18 AM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jul 9 2013, 07...   Jul 10 2013, 03:13 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 9 2013, 04:51 AM) ...   Jul 10 2013, 03:10 PM
- - klonopinz   maybe when mayweather fights next cinco de mayo th...   Jul 9 2013, 03:58 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Jul 9 2013, 06...   Jul 9 2013, 08:03 AM
- - mrchitown   Though I still don't get the idea of Miguel tr...   Jul 10 2013, 12:06 AM
- - Hotsauce   Cotto stay with different trainers   Jul 10 2013, 01:21 AM


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