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> Rigos situation is getting heated!, Jabs, threats, this thing is building up.
daprofessor
post Jul 24 2013, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Jul 23 2013, 12:26 PM) *
I lol'd when he said he and mayweather are the best two fighters in the world.


Bitch please.


he's got 2 gold medals to floyds bronze.

he became champion in 6 fights. he has the opposition to stake his claim. he's already beaten a fighter he was supposed to lose to. his skills are undeniable. aside from ward and floyd....name someone better.
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post Jul 24 2013, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Jul 24 2013, 12:10 AM) *
Say what you want about this style vs that style...HBO still had two of the best fights of the year...and the crowd at the rios/alvarado2 fight was insane...seriously only sat down once in that fight..not one moment of silence.


i enjoyed crawford/prescott more than rios/alvarado 2. i got a head ache from watching that and the bradley/provodnikov fights....but i'll say bradley/provodnikov is a definite FOTY candidate.
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post Jul 24 2013, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jul 23 2013, 10:38 PM) *
This is an piece I wrote showing how the history of HBO's, bias, jump-started by Jim Lamply hurts Rigondeaux so much. It's basically a summation of all of the problems with HBO that we have been talking about. A move to Showtime may not only be the best option, it may be the only option available so that Rigo gets the respect he is due, and will never get positive recognition from HBO commentary or HBO producers.


HBO Commentary and Jim Lamply Bias


“My response in a question to why Guillermo Rigondeaux is bashed by HBO. This is nothing new and is a pattern that has been developing for YEARS!”

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The blatant disrespect given by HBO to elusive stylist Guillermo Rigondeaux is due to Jim Lamply's pom-pom shaking for Rocky-type wars from now on, over slick boxers with no personality or a negative personality. HBO commentary implies slick boxers with a hated personality are boring. HBO's recipe for success is you either have to be a vicious brawler or at least a likable pretty boy. The pretty boy mindset began with Jones and Delahoya, which to Merchant and Lamps were ok, until Roy started Cherry Picking his opposition.

Jim Lamply’s first cheerleading was for Oscar Delahoya in a sickening way, almost as if he had a love relationship with him. Go back to Trinidad-Delahoya were not one complimentary word was said about Tito the whole fight! Jim Lamply loved the media darling Delahoya. Merchant was suspended for a telecast because he once said Delahoya's entrance music "sucked." Trinidad-Delahoya was the beginning of Jim Lamply's bias favoring certain fighters on the network.

It got where it was today with Gatti. Gatti was a thrilling slugger. Gatti was HBO’s next pom-pom shaker, but he was also a B-grade fighter who was rewarded and lost several fights in the process. Ward-Gatti I was a great fight! The second a third fights, over-rated by everyone because Lamply personified what was acceptable to him for the network. The likable slugger. In addition, Merchant played this time along with the slugging mentality at HBO Boxing. Arturo Gatti was the beginning of where Jim Lamply’s commentary created group think at HBO for the whole crew Jim Lamply, Larry Merchant, Roy Jones, and Manny Steward to begin the slugger (Gatti) or lovable boxer (Delahoya) agenda.

When Floyd Mayweather came along and out-boxed the shit out of Gatti, HBO didn't like that at all, and treated Floyd akin to a wrestling comparison, the badass, the villain who just beat their "Hulk Hogan." in Gatti There was some understanding because of Floyd being a POS, hated, and not likeable. What HBO did not remember is how much money and the significance that that "POS" brought to the network. Floyd Mayweather became one of the best Pound-For-Pound fighters in the sport. HBO didn't have their Rocky, their Hulk Hogan, and that made Lamply upset. However, it also planted the seed, and Floyd knew damn well what HBO was thinking over the years, in Lamply's and Merchant's eyes, "Boxers are boring, and Floyd's not a "Goody Two Shoes" personality like Delahoya."

Jim Lamply's and HBO's "Wet Dream" was the emergence of Pacquaio. That was their new Gatti, new Hulk Hogan, new poster boy for everything great about boxing was in that package, A likably slugger. "Pacquaio, Pacquiao, Pacquiao! “Bang! Bang Bang!” That was what Lamply and Merchant wanted in the next Gatti only better. That's when they REALLY started shitting on the "boring boxer." Keep the Klitschko's off the network, they aren't exciting enough. Floyd, according to Jim and Larry, like the Klitschkos, was boring. In fact, HBO THOUGHT they had the potential for some thrills with the Lewis-Vitali brawl, and Lennox got better treatment at HBO that doesn't necessarily fit the "love a brawler model." Nevertheless, Vitali's exile and brother Wlad not being exciting since Brewster I was not enough. HBO had too many boring fights from Wlad, no matter how much he dominated with his height, jab, and ability to break fighters down with the size and reach.

When HBO's poster boy for what's great and lovable about boxing Pacquiao lost to Tim Bradley there was some justification because it was still a bad decision, but no where near the shut-out that the Lamply's pom-pom shaking for Manny made it out to be. Most objective observers gave Tim four rounds. The bias in HBO's commentary of the Bradley-Pacquiao fight was nauseating. If you could stand to listen to it, you would have thought that fight was Holmes (Pacquiao) beating Cobb. (Bradley.) because HBO made it seem like it was so one-sided.

Tim Bradley was hated at HBO because he beat their Hulk Hogan in Pacquaio and made Lamply cry. So much money, time, and promotional energy was HBO and the crew counting on Mayweather-Pacquaio happening, because HBO wanted Floyd to get his ass handed to him. When Marquez fought Pacquaio in three of the closest, most microscopically close fights you could score, (I thought the first was the most marginal for Manny because I thought the early knockdowns were too big a lead for Marquez to recover.) HBO liked it because their boy Manny would still come out a winner.

The seeds were planted. Now if you aren't a Rocky type fighter at HBO, you aren't shit! Moreover, poor Rigondeaux now has to face those consequences. They are bringing back Donaire, and Lamply's pom-poms to go gaga over him once again and THAT is sickening. The ONLY way to get HBO back to somewhat of a respectable state where boxers can be appreciated. Lamply has to go! His overt bias for the slugger has gotten worse and worse for the past decade. I can understand and appreciate that when a fight is a brawl, Lamps can be thrilling to hear. HBO producers and commentators need to realize that just because a fight is a boxing match that does not make it “boring.”

Showtime builds quality two-sided fights that the public wants to see. HBO is still looking for their next Rocky, where it has become so biased against elusive boxers that I now watch HBO for movies and consider Showtime the leader for boxing broadcasts in terms of its commentary integrity and for the most part, just calling the fight, no pom-pom shaking. HBO's production values and new graphics have been shit since January or so with the new graphics and Steve Wisefeld there, WTF? They are going with "Fat Dan" Rafael as some sort of boxing consultant now. Everyone accept Top Rank is leaving HBO for the reasons stated above.

Jack


good stuff!!!

i read a piece that i think you might enjoy....

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post Jul 24 2013, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 24 2013, 07:10 PM) *
he's got 2 gold medals to floyds bronze.

he became champion in 6 fights. he has the opposition to stake his claim. he's already beaten a fighter he was supposed to lose to. his skills are undeniable. aside from ward and floyd....name someone better.


Yes but everyone on here saying Canelo aint shit cuz who has he beat...well you can say the same for Rigo imo.


Doesnt Queen Khan have a silver?lol


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post Jul 24 2013, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 24 2013, 07:12 PM) *
i enjoyed crawford/prescott more than rios/alvarado 2. i got a head ache from watching that and the bradley/provodnikov fights....but i'll say bradley/provodnikov is a definite FOTY candidate.

Lol dude you are lying to your self.That fight was freaking epic.2nd round was one of the best ive seen since probably JCCjr/Martinez's 12th
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post Jul 25 2013, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Jul 24 2013, 04:41 PM) *
And he basically trains himself... It seems like he isn't taking boxing so seriously especially the last few fights. Here's a suggestion, how about spending an actual camp with your fucking head trainer?

Right, spend a a whole camp with your trainer Donaire! He's been doing the same thing for his past few fights...doing half camps and shit.

That shit reminds me of rap songs that I hear nowadays with 3 or 4 rappers on them. You think that they're all in the studio together, collaborating, recording their verses, etc...but in reality, they're all in separate studios, and end up sending their verses to the engineers. Lol

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post Jul 25 2013, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Jul 24 2013, 10:04 PM) *
Yes but everyone on here saying Canelo aint shit cuz who has he beat...well you can say the same for Rigo imo.


Doesnt Queen Khan have a silver?lol


Donaire is the best fighter out of either resume. There is no way you can compare the comp he's faced to Canelo
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post Jul 25 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 24 2013, 03:10 PM) *
he's got 2 gold medals to floyds bronze.

he became champion in 6 fights. he has the opposition to stake his claim. he's already beaten a fighter he was supposed to lose to. his skills are undeniable. aside from ward and floyd....name someone better.

You and I both know Floyd was robbed during the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.

Rigondeaux I knew was the truth when I first saw him The guy is amazing, smart technical and all around great fighter. I hope he leaves HBO and that fuck Arum. He needs to be on Showtime. He will have a better chance plus Mares and Rigondeaux can happen if he jumps ship and weight. This guy has a future and too be honest I want to see him fight three times a year. No one is fucking with this guy anytime soon.

Pacquiao!

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post Jul 25 2013, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Jul 24 2013, 11:04 PM) *
Yes but everyone on here saying Canelo aint shit cuz who has he beat...well you can say the same for Rigo imo.


Doesnt Queen Khan have a silver?lol


winning a gold medal is much harder than winning a professional world title.

canelo hasn't beaten anyone as good as donaire.

rigondeaux has more skill and ability in his pinky toe than rick astley has in his whole body. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 25 2013, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Jul 24 2013, 11:06 PM) *
Lol dude you are lying to your self.That fight was freaking epic.2nd round was one of the best ive seen since probably JCCjr/Martinez's 12th


no, not really. i can't stand watching rios fights. it's sad. i know that every punch he takes is adding to his brain damage. you can hear it in the way he speaks. he sends the wrong message to young boxers out there who try to emulate his crude style of boxing. i honestly pray for the guy.
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