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mrchitown
post Aug 27 2013, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Aug 26 2013, 10:10 AM) *
My point EXACTLY, CHI!!!! Arreola, I'm confident, cracks harder than Banks.


If Mitchell beats Chris then Chris should retire. The odds and everything else imaginable is in his favor
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post Aug 27 2013, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Aug 26 2013, 05:23 PM) *
I am not going to call you crazy because a lot of people are counting Canelo to beat Mayweather, soundly beat Mayweather. As we know, whenever people pick Mayweather to lose badly, he steps up BIG. See the Hatton odds and Diego Corrales odds. What do you like about Saul's odds in winning. Saul does seem like a cool dude, I can tell he wants all that lime light and superstar status shit. He drips it. But you have to earn it. I still have my money on Mayweather. I am actually intrigued by his mindset this fight. It seems he has a lot going on outside the ring. And I remember what BHop said, it might not be Mayweather's night.

Canelo's just waaay too calm about this, unlike Floyd's recent opponents who pretend to not care, but all the while, they're putting way too much thought into it. Cotto had the most success because he was calm and could care less about what Floyd could do to him...he was more concerned about what he was gonna do to Floyd, which he executed an exceptional game plan.

I'm looking out for Canelo's phantom punches...you know, the one that's coming off as one shot, but ends up being another punch once it lands. I like how he fakes a hook up top, but turns that shit into a body shot...or vice versa. Anytime you fake one punch and land a totally different one (like Floyd fakes the jab, but throws a hook), then you're in trouble.

Floyd's defense is at his greatest when a guy overcommits to a punch, but if you're faking one punch then landing a totally different one, then Floyd can only be prepared for so much of it.
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post Aug 27 2013, 08:58 AM
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The more I think about it... I think the fix is in if canelo doesn't get a ko. No way gbp, and showtime let this golden goose lose his goose egg unless he gets kod. Too much money involved and the general public would probably be happy to see Floyd get screwed.

All that taken into account along with the money involved in a rematch?? Shit is gonna get fishy just watch. I may be thinking sadisticly but hey, I'm a boxing fan shit like this always goes down. Especially in a year that's been to good to be true so far, maybe that's why I'm being so skeptical lol.
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post Aug 27 2013, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Aug 27 2013, 06:20 AM) *
Canelo's just waaay too calm about this, unlike Floyd's recent opponents who pretend to not care, but all the while, they're putting way too much thought into it. Cotto had the most success because he was calm and could care less about what Floyd could do to him...he was more concerned about what he was gonna do to Floyd, which he executed an exceptional game plan.

I'm looking out for Canelo's phantom punches...you know, the one that's coming off as one shot, but ends up being another punch once it lands. I like how he fakes a hook up top, but turns that shit into a body shot...or vice versa. Anytime you fake one punch and land a totally different one (like Floyd fakes the jab, but throws a hook), then you're in trouble.

Floyd's defense is at his greatest when a guy overcommits to a punch, but if you're faking one punch then landing a totally different one, then Floyd can only be prepared for so much of it.

Here is what concerns me about Saul. I do not think he feels Floyd is as good as people say he is. In "All Accesshe said Mayweather has been able to choose his opponents and he knew he would win. Which tells me, all his fights have been against weaker opposition. I know Saul wants that fame and money and superstar status. he has the looks and the ethnicity to be one of the biggest stars in all of sports. Here lays the problem that I have: Experience. He has not fought a fighter of Floyd's talents. Now, the hype he is getting from his trainer and GB maybe his down fall. Oscar is already saying Saul is a smarter boxing than Mayweather...go figure. I know Saul is a clam guy, but he has a tendency to get cagey in the ring and go for broke, we saw it against Trout and against Lopez. If things do not go his way he leaves himself open which is why Lopez landed some good body shots on Canelo. Plus, Saul swings widely and sometimes wildly and that can cost him.

Cotto did execute a perfect game plan, but he still lost because Floyd adjusted brilliantly. That 12th round May could of gotten Cotto out of there but held back. I honestly do not think Saul has the boxing skill or ring intelligence of a Miguel Cotto, that comes with experience. The only thing that bothers me about Floyd is what is going on outside of the ring. His dad is a defensive specialist. I doubt if their game plan is to let Floyd stand toe to toe. I think this fight will be interesting for the first 4 rounds and then the lesson will start. Saul is going to try to knock Mayweather out early. That is his best shot. The longer this fight goes I just do not see how Canelo can win.


Check: I agree with you. Unless Floyd has a dominate and I mean dominate performance they are going to rob him, rob him BIG time. Canelo has too much money in behind him and in front of him.

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post Aug 28 2013, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Aug 27 2013, 09:58 AM) *
The more I think about it... I think the fix is in if canelo doesn't get a ko. No way gbp, and showtime let this golden goose lose his goose egg unless he gets kod. Too much money involved and the general public would probably be happy to see Floyd get screwed.

All that taken into account along with the money involved in a rematch?? Shit is gonna get fishy just watch. I may be thinking sadisticly but hey, I'm a boxing fan shit like this always goes down. Especially in a year that's been to good to be true so far, maybe that's why I'm being so skeptical lol.


You very well maybe correct. However, that premise is predicated on Mayweather playing the part of a fighter w/ (what I like to call) "Palestinian issues" (Palestinian issues= never missing an opportunity to MISS an opportunity). For me, I don't see that happening. In order for the screws to get put to May, we're gonna need to see a KO (which could happen w/n the first 2-3 rounds) or Canelo driving the fight WHILE Floyd is simultaneously doing nada....I mean, NADA. I think the only screws will be, Floyd by SD and rematch ensures for even BIGGER $$$$$$ (not as big as rematch after a May loss).

I'll be honest w/ you: I CAN see how ND mascot could win......I just don't see how Floyd plays the part of "enabler" to allow all of that to happen.
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post Aug 28 2013, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Aug 28 2013, 12:23 PM) *
You very well maybe correct. However, that premise is predicated on Mayweather playing the part of a fighter w/ (what I like to call) "Palestinian issues" (Palestinian issues= never missing an opportunity to MISS an opportunity). For me, I don't see that happening. In order for the screws to get put to May, we're gonna need to see a KO (which could happen w/n the first 2-3 rounds) or Canelo driving the fight WHILE Floyd is simultaneously doing nada....I mean, NADA. I think the only screws will be, Floyd by SD and rematch ensures for even BIGGER $$$$$$ (not as big as rematch after a May loss).

I'll be honest w/ you: .I CAN see how ND mascot could win.....I just don't see how Floyd plays the part of "enabler" to allow all of that to happen.

I fucking hate Notre Dame, but that was funny! By the way, college football begins tomorrow! Weird how the NCAA asshole haven't suspended Johnny Manziel but they made Dez Byrant lose an entire season for having dinner with Deion Sanders which wasn't even illegal.
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post Aug 28 2013, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Aug 28 2013, 06:47 PM) *
I fucking hate Notre Dame, but that was funny! By the way, college football begins tomorrow! Weird how the NCAA asshole haven't suspended Johnny Manziel but they made Dez Byrant lose an entire season for having dinner with Deion Sanders which wasn't even illegal.


I can't take credit for it...CShel's threw that out there for the longest.....it resonated w/ me, as I laughed continually when reading it.

Yep, I'm all on that CFB, my dude. Got my projector and screen, already laced up!!!!!

They suspended Manziel HALF a game for the opener a.k.a. "write on the chalkboard 100 times, I will NOT sign mass autographs for money and let the NCAA find out about it."

They got Dez for....(gulp) LYING about a legal activity. Weird, huh?
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post Aug 28 2013, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Aug 28 2013, 05:47 PM) *
I fucking hate Notre Dame, but that was funny! By the way, college football begins tomorrow! Weird how the NCAA asshole haven't suspended Johnny Manziel but they made Dez Byrant lose an entire season for having dinner with Deion Sanders which wasn't even illegal.


I love Notre Dame
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post Aug 28 2013, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Aug 28 2013, 07:33 PM) *
I love Notre Dame


THIS MF, here!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nea.gif)
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post Aug 28 2013, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Aug 28 2013, 06:47 PM) *
I fucking hate Notre Dame, but that was funny! By the way, college football begins tomorrow! Weird how the NCAA asshole haven't suspended Johnny Manziel but they made Dez Byrant lose an entire season for having dinner with Deion Sanders which wasn't even illegal.



i'm going to guess manziel is white? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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