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BrutUalBK
post Sep 8 2013, 09:23 PM
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Why is the blame for the CW fight being leveled at Floyd when it is apparently clear that Canelo opened his big mouth first and said he wanted to go to 150 for the fight against Floyd? Nearly every boxing website with the exception of FH forum is blaming Mayweather for the CW but read this and we should stick to our guns and not be conformist like other websites:

http://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alvarez-il...ather-jr--46563
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Dolimite
post Sep 12 2013, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 12 2013, 04:57 PM) *
according to canelo and his team, floyds ppl said 147 initially. floyd sr even went on record to the press talking about 147. ppl have short term memories. floyd was in the drivers seat. he could have made this fight at 154....they said 147....both parties agreed to 152. we have a fight. bottom line....floyd cannot talk shit about catchweights anymore because he is now guilty of fighting at a catchweight. canelo's title is on the line....does floyd still have his title he got from cotto or did he vacate?

Both belts are on the line.

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 12 2013, 05:18 PM) *
"I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day - skills pay the bills.... Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses."


“I look at Miguel Cotto as an undefeated fighter because he faced Pacquiao, but Pacquiao caught him at a catch weight. He wasn’t the best Miguel Cotto. He was drained. He wasn’t hydrated.”

these are floyd's words.

There is a difference Cotto never wanted the catchweight, he never went on record saying he would fight Pac at 144/ he agreed to it but he never came out and said that he would want to fight at that weight. Canelo's Team clearly said that they would fight May at 150. I don't care if he said it two years ago or 2 seconds ago. When he said that, he put himself at a disadvantage. Could May have foregone that request? Yes! But boxing is a business and you take the advantages that your opponent freely gives you. Plus, where was all this uproar when Saul was forcing guys two weight classes lower than him, making them come up in weight to fight him, it is the same shit. The star makes the rules, see ward vs, dawson.
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post Sep 12 2013, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Sep 12 2013, 09:00 PM) *
Both belts are on the line.


There is a difference Cotto never wanted the catchweight, he never went on record saying he would fight Pac at 144/ he agreed to it but he never came out and said that he would want to fight at that weight. Canelo's Team clearly said that they would fight May at 150. I don't care if he said it two years ago or 2 seconds ago. When he said that, he put himself at a disadvantage. Could May have foregone that request? Yes! But boxing is a business and you take the advantages that your opponent freely gives you. Plus, where was all this uproar when Saul was forcing guys two weight classes lower than him, making them come up in weight to fight him, it is the same shit. The star makes the rules, see ward vs, dawson.


Don't argue with a fool...We might as well wipe out Andre Ward's win over Chad Dawson as well, seeing how Chad went on record (like Canelo) and said he'd come down to 168. He drained himself then after he got taxed he blamed the weight...now I don't care when it was said, you messed up by putting it out there that you would fight at a disadvantage and he said it BEFORE Mayweather said anything about a catchweight, you proposed it first. Floyd played himself a bit too here by saying he don't fight at catchweights but some of the blame should be leveled at Canelo and his team too. It's some hgypocrite's on here too. This situation goes both ways but in the age of the internet rational thinking is obsolete
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post Sep 13 2013, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 12 2013, 07:42 PM) *
Don't argue with a fool...We might as well wipe out Andre Ward's win over Chad Dawson as well, seeing how Chad went on record (like Canelo) and said he'd come down to 168. He drained himself then after he got taxed he blamed the weight...now I don't care when it was said, you messed up by putting it out there that you would fight at a disadvantage and he said it BEFORE Mayweather said anything about a catchweight, you proposed it first. Floyd played himself a bit too here by saying he don't fight at catchweights but some of the blame should be leveled at Canelo and his team too. It's some hgypocrite's on here too. This situation goes both ways but in the age of the internet rational thinking is obsolete

This is why I fucks with you Chi! Sure May could of said fuck the catch weight but guess what? If an asshole wants to sell me a damn Ashtin Martin for half the damn price, I am not suppose to take just to show people that I can pay full price for it? Fuck no. You spit that shit, I am taking it at the value you set it. De La Hoya made Hopkins drop in weight to fight him. Where is the uproar for that fight? It is bullshit!
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post Sep 13 2013, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Sep 13 2013, 09:48 AM) *
This is why I fucks with you Chi! Sure May could of said fuck the catch weight but guess what? If an asshole wants to sell me a damn Ashtin Martin for half the damn price, I am not suppose to take just to show people that I can pay full price for it? Fuck no. You spit that shit, I am taking it at the value you set it. De La Hoya made Hopkins drop in weight to fight him. Where is the uproar for that fight? It is bullshit!


Exactly! I place some blame on Mayweather but Alvarez and his team aren't off the hook here either
In the pro ranks you get paid to do what you do best. It's a business, now if someone comes to me before I even have them on my radar and says i'll offer you X amount of dollars to get this deal done and I know for a fact that you over valuing the service, hell yeah I'm gon take that. I don't care if you said it 6yrs ago, you said it and I took advantage of it. It's not my fault your mentally inadequate to negotiate a fair deal for yourself.

Oscar, Manny, Andre, would should just discredit them and their wins because they fought at catch weights but but there's not really an uproar over there circumstances
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- BrutUalBK   Catchweight Blame Leveled at Floyd   Sep 8 2013, 09:23 PM
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- - truth   They are setting us for the rematch after Floyd wh...   Sep 9 2013, 12:44 AM
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- - mgrover   because hes a hypocrite.   Sep 9 2013, 04:23 AM
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- - klonopinz   beacause he is a hypocrit. he is doing exactly wat...   Sep 9 2013, 06:18 AM
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