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Col Reb
post Oct 14 2013, 09:22 PM
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I think Martinez-Cotto will be a great fight, but now might be the opportunity for Martinez to get Floyd, a fight he's always claimed to want. Now there is not even a mention of it? I know he's been loyal to HBO but come on. He's not even an Arum fighter. If Martinez demolishes Cotto I don't think Floyd takes the fight, and if Martinez loses he can kiss any chance of getting Floyd goodbye. If I were his team I'd be pushing for Floyd (since Sergio looked vulnerable in his last fight) and have Cotto as a Plan B. Your thoughts?
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post Oct 30 2013, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (klonopinz @ Oct 30 2013, 06:27 PM) *
the difference in the trout fight was cotto tried to box him instead of hurt him to the body. i think his passion was gone for that fight also. i think hes in a do or die state right now and hes motivated, plus roach has his offense dialed in awesome. i havent seen miguel punch that well in a while, he was super fast and had great fluididy and whip in his shots. he was puting his combos together well also. mechanicaly he looks great IMO.

but you cant say that the cotto back in the day around the time of williams, at 147 around 2006 wouldnt be a beast. he would be ripping williams to the body, williams was overated IMO. he got counterpunched to shit by lara, koed by sergio, even tho the first fight sergio got tagged up also. and he only really beat a past his prime winky, and margarito in his prime, thats his big win next to martinez. even quintana beat him, an cotto ate quintana alive. williams at 147 was so skinny, a cotto body shot would have folded him in half IMO.

Austin trout aint knocking out shit, he couldnt even land a good shot on canelo ffs.

sergio used to be "too athletic" for miguel, but that was 4 years ago. sergio is ripe for the picking right now while miguel has be reinvigorated. i think sergios knee injury has totally ruined his style. now he cant fight like he used to, he is forced to trade shots to to toe now, like in his murray and chavez fights. he doesnt all the time, but he is forced to now way more than ever because he is older and hes breaking down. golovkin would retire him, so i think cotto is a perfect fight. IMHO sergio is actually a legit 154 pounder who became famous beating dumb slow middleweights, when he fought 154 lbs and 147 lbs he had more problems because these guys could actually keep up wit his agility and speed.

sergio will have trouble trying to box cotto, cotto will expose him because sergios best punch is that sneaky left hand lead that he uses, where he ducks his head down low to his right and throws a small looping left hand thru his opponents jab. that is a perfect punch to try on cotto because he will be leaning right into miguels left hook to the body and/or head. he will move right into it and get KOed himself. not to mention he will get jabbed to death by cottos strong left hand power jabs. his hands are down and he will get picked apart by cottos jab.

If were gonna do this whole "he beat the guy who beat him" thing (that is not the best way to argue a point in boxing) than Williams beat margs very handily who beat cotto once and was on his way to catching cotto late again in the second fight if it wasnt for the very involves ny doctors and ref.

Williams is not an easy fight for anyone.

I respect cotto a lot so Idk why your making excuses for him in the trout fight when he himself never made an excuse. It isn't trouts fault that cotto supposedly fought him without passion. Sergio is basically a stronger faster trout, cotto wouldn't be able to hold up to him for twelve.
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- Col Reb   Why is Martinez settling for Cotto without testing the Mayweather sweepstakes waters?   Oct 14 2013, 09:22 PM
- - checkleft   Settle for cotto? Do you know the pay day he could...   Oct 14 2013, 09:50 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 14 2013, 10:50 PM)...   Oct 15 2013, 12:10 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 15 2013, 12:10 PM) A...   Oct 19 2013, 05:15 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Oct 19 2013, 06:15 PM)...   Oct 21 2013, 10:20 AM
- - mrchitown   Why go for the loss when you can go for the win   Oct 14 2013, 10:08 PM
|- - BoxingStill#1   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 14 2013, 11:08 PM)...   Oct 15 2013, 07:01 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 14 2013, 10:08 PM)...   Oct 14 2013, 11:32 PM
- - bnoles4life   "If Martinez demolishes Cotto I don't thi...   Oct 15 2013, 04:48 AM
- - Franchize   My guess is he wants to continue fighting lol. Him...   Oct 15 2013, 08:16 AM
- - jtiizzle   because sergio has a exclusion contract with HBO a...   Oct 15 2013, 12:07 PM
- - BigFightFan   Cotto is the best money fight for Martinez at this...   Oct 16 2013, 01:44 AM
- - Dolimite   I don't think Sergio's style matches up we...   Oct 16 2013, 04:06 PM
- - klonopinz   come forward no defense? cotto was catching tons o...   Oct 16 2013, 04:25 PM
- - klonopinz   cotto knew he could push through delvin because he...   Oct 16 2013, 04:29 PM
- - klonopinz   martinez looks good against big dumb fools who com...   Oct 16 2013, 04:31 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Oct 16 2013, 04:31 PM)...   Oct 21 2013, 11:07 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Oct 16 2013, 05:31 PM)...   Oct 16 2013, 05:41 PM
- - checkleft   ^^ yea like Floyd and Arum would flock to the oppo...   Oct 20 2013, 12:56 AM
- - HyyerBlaze   Maybe he doesn't want to have to go down in we...   Oct 21 2013, 12:21 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 21 2013, 12:07 PM)...   Oct 21 2013, 12:55 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 21 2013, 12:55 PM)...   Oct 22 2013, 09:40 AM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 22 2013, 10:40 AM)...   Oct 22 2013, 09:58 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 22 2013, 09:58 AM)...   Oct 22 2013, 07:56 PM
- - Franchize   I don't know who manages Cotto but they've...   Oct 22 2013, 09:24 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 22 2013, 10:58 AM)...   Oct 22 2013, 04:13 PM
- - emd01   Well, its very refreshing to read that Cotto isnt ...   Oct 22 2013, 08:42 PM
- - MAHDI   Martinez KOs Cotto... Cotto took some serious puni...   Oct 24 2013, 11:28 PM
- - Dolimite   Would anyone be interested in seeing a Cotto vs. M...   Oct 25 2013, 11:23 AM
- - emd01   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 25 2013, 09:23 AM) ...   Oct 28 2013, 10:56 AM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (emd01 @ Oct 28 2013, 11:56 AM) I...   Oct 29 2013, 03:32 PM
- - klonopinz   the difference in the trout fight was cotto tried ...   Oct 30 2013, 06:27 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (klonopinz @ Oct 30 2013, 06:27 PM)...   Oct 30 2013, 11:11 PM


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