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MAHDI
post Oct 20 2013, 08:51 AM
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You tell one of the best P4p guys in the world to fight more fan friendly??? He wants him to pull a Tim Bradley... bullshit
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Franchize
post Oct 22 2013, 09:08 AM
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End of the day, Arum preys on gullible foreign fighters who he thinks don't know any better. The scariest thing to a guy like Arum is a black man who knows what the fuck he's talking about. That is why I think he'll never promote Tim Bradley properly. I also don't think he banked on Guillermo Rigondeaux putting up such a fuss. I think Arum thinks with his fighters "I took you out of the slums and gave you some money. You should be perfectly content with being my underpaid slave." Anyone not going along with the program all of a sudden is not "fan friendly" or is ducking somebody.
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post Oct 22 2013, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 22 2013, 09:08 AM) *
End of the day, Arum preys on gullible foreign fighters who he thinks don't know any better. The scariest thing to a guy like Arum is a black man who knows what the fuck he's talking about. That is why I think he'll never promote Tim Bradley properly. I also don't think he banked on Guillermo Rigondeaux putting up such a fuss. I think Arum thinks with his fighters "I took you out of the slums and gave you some money. You should be perfectly content with being my underpaid slave." Anyone not going along with the program all of a sudden is not "fan friendly" or is ducking somebody.


You got that right, I don't understand how people don't see his strong dislike for black fighters, well some not all. Wait til Crawford has another dull outing, we're going to have to hear his mouth about how Terrence needs to fight more offensive and this and that and blah blah blah. I think he underestimated Rigondeaux's whole team, he thought he was just going to keep sending shots at then and then when it was time for them to respond be too scared to say something back. I also think he's underestimating Bradley
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post Oct 22 2013, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 22 2013, 10:34 AM) *
You got that right, I don't understand how people don't see his strong dislike for black fighters, well some not all. Wait til Crawford has another dull outing, we're going to have to hear his mouth about how Terrence needs to fight more offensive and this and that and blah blah blah. I think he underestimated Rigondeaux's whole team, he thought he was just going to keep sending shots at then and then when it was time for them to respond be too scared to say something back. I also think he's underestimating Bradley

I agree especially about Rigo. I think, for the jump, you can tell Tim is pretty intelligent and about his business. I think he thought Rigo was going to be his little foreign slave. Like he picked him up outside of a Home Depot waiting for work. But I'll take it a step further. I don't think he thought he'd beat Donaire.
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post Oct 23 2013, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 22 2013, 08:58 PM) *
I agree especially about Rigo. I think, for the jump, you can tell Tim is pretty intelligent and about his business. I think he thought Rigo was going to be his little foreign slave. Like he picked him up outside of a Home Depot waiting for work. But I'll take it a step further. I don't think he thought he'd beat Donaire.

I cant say that Timmy was all that smart. He turned down $2.5M to face a guy (Peterson) that he had already beaten years ago. This was AFTER the Pacquiao fight, which he was guaranteed $5M. Not only that, but Tim knew that the fight didn't sell well, and the whole thing backfired, so why not take half of that money to stay busy?

To make matters worse, he was almost on "shelf" status, when he started blabbing about Arum and so on. He went on to take what Im sure was a smaller amount against Provonikov, who almost knocked him out of the Stub Hub Center. Sitting around demanding $10M for a Pac rematch, while turning down $2.5M, just to go on and almost jizz it away against a more dangerous fighter for even less, isn't the smartest thing Bradley's done in his career. Lol

For all I know though, that who debacle with him and Arum, the first Pac fight, rematch talks, and the declined Peterson rematch...could all be Tim and Bob's organized shenanigans. Just the talks, doubts, and "uncertain certainties" before and after the Pac match, put me in the mindset that Bob was doing his usual ventriloquist show with Tim, or Tim just sounds corny and uncertain all the time. Lol

I can see Bob letting Rigondeaux slide out of his contract, just as he did with Gamboa...there's nothing that he can do with their images anyway. Now, for Chavez and Donaire, they should be ready for backlash and litigation, if they ever decide to try and jump ship...as if it hasn't happened before.
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post Oct 23 2013, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 23 2013, 09:25 AM) *
I cant say that Timmy was all that smart. He turned down $2.5M to face a guy (Peterson) that he had already beaten years ago. This was AFTER the Pacquiao fight, which he was guaranteed $5M. Not only that, but Tim knew that the fight didn't sell well, and the whole thing backfired, so why not take half of that money to stay busy?

To make matters worse, he was almost on "shelf" status, when he started blabbing about Arum and so on. He went on to take what Im sure was a smaller amount against Provonikov, who almost knocked him out of the Stub Hub Center. Sitting around demanding $10M for a Pac rematch, while turning down $2.5M, just to go on and almost jizz it away against a more dangerous fighter for even less, isn't the smartest thing Bradley's done in his career. Lol

For all I know though, that who debacle with him and Arum, the first Pac fight, rematch talks, and the declined Peterson rematch...could all be Tim and Bob's organized shenanigans. Just the talks, doubts, and "uncertain certainties" before and after the Pac match, put me in the mindset that Bob was doing his usual ventriloquist show with Tim, or Tim just sounds corny and uncertain all the time. Lol

I can see Bob letting Rigondeaux slide out of his contract, just as he did with Gamboa...there's nothing that he can do with their images anyway. Now, for Chavez and Donaire, they should be ready for backlash and litigation, if they ever decide to try and jump ship...as if it hasn't happened before.


I meant smart as in not some dude agreeing to and signing whatever. He actually speaks up in regards to his career as opposed to most fighters getting dicked around and being yes men. Also, he talked a good enough game to get that Pacquiao fight.
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- MAHDI   ARUM TELLS RIGONDEAX TO FIGHT MORE FAN FRIENDLY   Oct 20 2013, 08:51 AM
- - mgrover   I doubt it's even that, it's hit the guy m...   Oct 20 2013, 09:29 AM
- - MAHDI   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 20 2013, 10:29 AM) I...   Oct 20 2013, 09:45 AM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (MAHDI @ Oct 20 2013, 08:51 AM) You...   Oct 20 2013, 09:49 AM
- - mrchitown   Well I doubt Rigondeaux listens to him so screw it   Oct 20 2013, 12:19 PM
- - DigitalBoom   I'm sure Arum has no problem letting Rigo figh...   Oct 20 2013, 01:40 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (DigitalBoom @ Oct 20 2013, 01:40 P...   Oct 20 2013, 02:23 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 20 2013, 02:23 PM)...   Oct 20 2013, 11:02 PM
- - Franchize   This shit burned me up when I read it. How about d...   Oct 20 2013, 01:58 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 20 2013, 01:19 PM)...   Oct 20 2013, 05:17 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 20 2013, 05:17 PM)...   Oct 20 2013, 06:28 PM
- - Cshel86   Bob Arum's my pastor!   Oct 20 2013, 05:29 PM
- - Dolimite   I guess he wants Rigondeaux to get Pacquiaoed. Not...   Oct 20 2013, 06:29 PM
- - mrchitown   Arum's agenda is clear. Look how he slobs all ...   Oct 20 2013, 06:33 PM
- - bnoles4life   "fight a more fan-friendly fight..." (tr...   Oct 20 2013, 10:00 PM
- - DigitalBoom   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 20 2013, 03:23 PM)...   Oct 20 2013, 11:41 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (DigitalBoom @ Oct 20 2013, 11:41 P...   Oct 21 2013, 10:55 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (DigitalBoom @ Oct 20 2013, 11:41 P...   Oct 21 2013, 08:54 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Oct 21 2013, 08:54 PM)...   Oct 21 2013, 08:58 PM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Oct 21 2013, 09:04 PM)...   Oct 22 2013, 08:51 AM
- - Franchize   This may sound like an odd comparison, but when Ja...   Oct 21 2013, 11:58 AM
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- - Franchize   End of the day, Arum preys on gullible foreign fig...   Oct 22 2013, 09:08 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 22 2013, 09:08 AM)...   Oct 22 2013, 09:34 AM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 22 2013, 10:34 AM)...   Oct 22 2013, 07:58 PM
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|- - KOpower   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 24 2013, 09:08 PM)...   Oct 25 2013, 07:26 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (KOpower @ Oct 25 2013, 07:26 AM) Y...   Oct 25 2013, 08:34 AM
- - emd01   I wonder why people even listen to Arum anymore. T...   Oct 22 2013, 08:45 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (KOpower @ Oct 24 2013, 08:39 PM) P...   Oct 24 2013, 09:23 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 24 2013, 10:23 PM)...   Oct 24 2013, 09:54 PM
- - Franchize   Arum is a piece of shit. The moment he mentioned t...   Oct 24 2013, 10:38 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 24 2013, 10:54 PM) L...   Oct 24 2013, 10:43 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 24 2013, 11:43 PM)...   Oct 25 2013, 10:26 AM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 25 2013, 11:26 AM) A...   Oct 25 2013, 10:35 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 25 2013, 11:35 AM)...   Oct 25 2013, 10:41 AM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 25 2013, 07:41 AM) ...   Oct 25 2013, 10:48 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 25 2013, 10:48 AM) ...   Oct 25 2013, 11:32 AM
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- - MAHDI   QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 24 2013, 10:23 PM)...   Oct 24 2013, 11:18 PM
- - KOpower   You said that Arum doesn't like black fighters...   Oct 25 2013, 09:13 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (KOpower @ Oct 25 2013, 09:13 AM) Y...   Oct 25 2013, 11:31 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (KOpower @ Oct 25 2013, 10:13 AM) Y...   Oct 25 2013, 10:23 AM
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- - mgrover   Your all so convinced that Arum has a gold mine in...   Oct 26 2013, 02:51 PM
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- - checkleft   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 26 2013, 02:51 PM) Y...   Oct 26 2013, 03:30 PM
- - Franchize   I don't think anyone is asking Arum to make Ri...   Oct 26 2013, 05:25 PM


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