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Dolimite
post Oct 25 2013, 11:15 AM
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Rios is sounding like a man convinced that he has a shot at beating Pac. I applaud the guy for having a strong belief in himself. I am actually pulling for Rios in this fight. Its not because I dislike Pac (I do loath his fans), its because Rios is a true L.A Clipper fan. I respect that. My question, is anyone giving Rios a shot to win? By all accounts this is a tune up fight to welcome Pac back. I am not sure if Pac still has what it takes to be the Pac of old. If Rios goes the full 12 rounds and looks good after the fight then I call that a success. He ain't getting a decision, no way. In interviews that Pac has given, he is saying that he is re-dedicated to the sport and that he will not look for the knock out but will box Rios (ha). The only problem with his strategy is that he isn't a boxer and he knows he isn't a boxer. If Pac's strategy is trying to box Rios, this fight maybe interesting. Be prepared for all the nut sucking from HBO commentators.


Alex "Slimmer" Ariza just did an interview saying how it isn't fair that Rios is getting tested and not Pac. He claims he isn't suspicious of Pac but he should still be getting tested like Rios.... Did Alex just tell on himself? Does anyone find it remotely strange that all of a sudden Pac has no problem with additional testing? Did he finally get over his fear or needles and being weakened before the fight? Interesting how the media isn't calling Pac a hypocrite.

If Rios wins, how much credit can we give Ariza?
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post Oct 25 2013, 12:38 PM
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Not gonna be an easy fight for Rios. Pacquiao was beating Juan pretty badly before the KO came, and he looked sharper, since the 3rd fight and the Bradley fight. I haven't seen Pac in an inside fight...maybe never. The closest I've seen to it, is when Bradley forced the clinch a few times, and needless to say...it looked weird.

I haven't EVER seen Rios fight from the outside...at least effectively anyway. As for this Ariza mess...when isn't it a mess? Pac suddenly thinks testing is good for the sport?! You know what, I believe him! Arum may not have wanted that testing, but Im sure Pac didn't give a damn if they did testing or not.

Wait a minute...did I read that correctly? Pac's not gonna get tested, til he gets to China for the fight?! A week before the fight?! Say whaaat? So basically, Pac's not gonna get tested, until the fight. Sounds fishy to me, but again, people dont wanna believe that Mosley was being tested, while Pac wasn't. Oh wait, did he get tested the week of the fight, while Shane got tested the whole time?
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post Oct 25 2013, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 25 2013, 10:38 AM) *
Not gonna be an easy fight for Rios. Pacquiao was beating Juan pretty badly before the KO came, and he looked sharper, since the 3rd fight and the Bradley fight. I haven't seen Pac in an inside fight...maybe never. The closest I've seen to it, is when Bradley forced the clinch a few times, and needless to say...it looked weird.

I haven't EVER seen Rios fight from the outside...at least effectively anyway. As for this Ariza mess...when isn't it a mess? Pac suddenly thinks testing is good for the sport?! You know what, I believe him! Arum may not have wanted that testing, but Im sure Pac didn't give a damn if they did testing or not.

Wait a minute...did I read that correctly? Pac's not gonna get tested, til he gets to China for the fight?! A week before the fight?! Say whaaat? So basically, Pac's not gonna get tested, until the fight. Sounds fishy to me, but again, people dont wanna believe that Mosley was being tested, while Pac wasn't. Oh wait, did he get tested the week of the fight, while Shane got tested the whole time?

Home field advantage. I do not trust anything coming from Manny or Arum. Manny hasn't had a single thought that he came up with since he has been on the scene. What pisses me off about this whole thing... It smells set up.. Ironically the sad part of all this is no one is really talking about this fight. It is less than a month away and I haven't heard casual fans even talking about this fight. I wonder why...

Putting this fight in China makes no fucking sense. This fight should of been in Vegas or Los Angeles, hell even at Madison Square Garden would of made sense.

The more time goes by is the more Ariza drops little shades on team Pac. I wonder will he even come out and say that Pac was on PEDS?
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post Oct 26 2013, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 25 2013, 06:56 PM) *
Home field advantage. I do not trust anything coming from Manny or Arum. Manny hasn't had a single thought that he came up with since he has been on the scene. What pisses me off about this whole thing... It smells set up.. Ironically the sad part of all this is no one is really talking about this fight. It is less than a month away and I haven't heard casual fans even talking about this fight. I wonder why...

Putting this fight in China makes no fucking sense. This fight should of been in Vegas or Los Angeles, hell even at Madison Square Garden would of made sense.

The more time goes by is the more Ariza drops little shades on team Pac. I wonder will he even come out and say that Pac was on PEDS?

I dont trust anything coming from Arum...cant blame Pac for it...never could, to be honest. Im looking at the way Arum is treating this whole "testing" issue nowadays. He either says "fuck off" or he does the testing his way. Donaire was being tested year round, by Conte's establishment...fishy.

Arum blew Marquez off, when HE asked for testing in the Pac fight, and we see the way he (Arum) handled the Bradley/Marquez testing...having the NSAC do their own style of OSDT. I never fully agreed with the way OSDT was done in boxing anyhow...with it only being done for 8-10 weeks, rather than year round. Random and CONSTANT testing for that time frame, is enough to ease the mind, but surely not enough to be 100% accurate.

Having it in China makes perfect sense. If Zou Shiming (sp) can crack $500M in his pro debut, in China, on HBO, then Manny should be in good graces (money wise). Arum didn't wanna deal with the taxes and such, if Manny fought in Vegas (read: threatening to have Manny fight in China, was a strong arm move for Vegas to not charge him so much).

Truthfully, most of Manny's fights haven't gotten THAT much buzz...even by casual fans. The only Manny fight that I know got the most talk out of casual fans, is the "best fight that never happened". Other than that, people are just Manny fans period, and they know that they'll get their money's worth. When Floyd fight, most casual fans pay more attention to who he's fighting, in hopes of him losing, but they still give him the attention that he's looking for. I know that sounded weird, but its true...they hate Floyd, but they hate him enough to watch everything that he does and read everything that's reported...but they give him opponent more attention, just because they are trying to see if he has what it takes, to defeat Floyd.

As for Ariza, if he happens to drop a bomb (read: spill the beans about some PED usage on Team Pac's part, if there ever was any), then who knows. If he says anything, it'll make everybody look bad, not him, just because he's the S & C coach. Some other schmuck could've sold Manny the PEDs...it doesn't take a S & C coach to do that. So if Ariza drops a dime, he could play the whole, "I'm just the S & C coach, and I cant tell Manny what to do". Besides, why would he have gotten in the middle of it anyway? Had he stood up to it, he would've stood to lose money. Keeping Manny hot = a guaranteed pay check.
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- Dolimite   Rios and Ariza and other BS   Oct 25 2013, 11:15 AM
- - Cshel86   Not gonna be an easy fight for Rios. Pacquiao was ...   Oct 25 2013, 12:38 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 25 2013, 10:38 AM) N...   Oct 25 2013, 05:56 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 25 2013, 06:56 PM) ...   Oct 25 2013, 06:38 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 25 2013, 06:56 PM) ...   Oct 26 2013, 01:54 PM
- - checkleft   This can't avoid looking suspicious.. and he a...   Oct 25 2013, 06:24 PM
- - mrchitown   I don't think Pacquaio is done as a fighter, a...   Oct 25 2013, 07:58 PM
- - DigitalBoom   If Pacquaio comes in feeling out his opponent too ...   Oct 25 2013, 11:09 PM
|- - BigDDatHomey   QUOTE (DigitalBoom @ Oct 25 2013, 11:09 P...   Oct 26 2013, 11:02 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 25 2013, 04:58 PM)...   Oct 26 2013, 12:03 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 26 2013, 12:03 PM) ...   Oct 26 2013, 12:36 PM
||- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 26 2013, 06:36 PM)...   Oct 26 2013, 02:46 PM
||- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 26 2013, 02:46 PM) W...   Oct 26 2013, 03:16 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 26 2013, 01:03 PM) ...   Oct 28 2013, 05:25 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Oct 28 2013, 05:25 A...   Oct 28 2013, 08:22 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 28 2013, 09:22 AM)...   Oct 28 2013, 10:13 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Oct 28 2013, 10:13 A...   Oct 28 2013, 11:03 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 28 2013, 12:03 PM)...   Oct 28 2013, 12:57 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Oct 28 2013, 12:57 P...   Oct 28 2013, 05:52 PM
- - Franchize   Funny how Arum would sooner let Manny fight in Chi...   Oct 26 2013, 08:02 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 25 2013, 11:15 AM) ...   Oct 27 2013, 02:38 PM
- - Franchize   In terms of Manny Pacquiao, I've never been th...   Oct 28 2013, 11:29 AM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 28 2013, 11:29 AM)...   Oct 28 2013, 07:03 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Oct 28 2013, 08:03 PM)...   Oct 29 2013, 07:48 AM
- - mrchitown   IDK if Pacquiao has ever took PED's but I thin...   Oct 28 2013, 11:54 AM
- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 28 2013, 12:54 PM)...   Oct 28 2013, 12:59 PM
- - mrchitown   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Oct 28 2013, 12:59 P...   Oct 28 2013, 05:59 PM


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