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Jack 1000
post Nov 23 2013, 02:24 PM
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For all discussion of Unified Super Middleweight Champion Carol Froch's title defense against hard punching George Groves! It's on Awe TV this afternoon! These two have talked some pretty good shit! Awe TV used to be Wealth TV. If your provider does not carry Awe TV, here is a registration link where you can legally watch the fight on-line:

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post Dec 1 2013, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Dec 1 2013, 06:12 PM) *
I'll derail the thread just to entertain you for a minute...just like the idiot in your sig I see you lack a bit of intelligence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Your from Cali too right. The best thing about cali is the Clips and they have a suspected ped user in CP3. Who is now the leader of the players union and low and behold he's threatening to take the league to court because he and some other NBA players don't want testing for peds. He hasn't accomplished shit in his career, he's the best regular season PG in the league. Like Deron Williams he can't cut it in the playoffs. Lakers ain't shit and the Warriors have shitty defense. My squad still has a top defense and has had sucess without their greatest player. Take Paul off that team and they trash. That team ain't going nowhere either lol

I'm insulted that you would even compare Froch to Derrick, it's laughable lol....but let's look at facts. CP3, Wade, and more had the same injury and chose to cut their meniscus meaning their careers will be cut short. Now Blake, and Westbrook and somebody else whose name escapes me had theirs reattached and look at their play and Rose had the same thing dine and had it reattached. You've fell of the mark with your taunt lol. Derrick will be fine, nobody's worried about that

Now back to the topic. He's had some good bounces go his way. He had to claw back to beat a washed Jermain Taylor, he got the best homecooked meal against Dirrell, and Groves was on his way to a win imo before the controversial stoppage. You want me to believe in a guy whose always been ordinary still having success being ordinary. Name the fighters who he beats. He won't beat a Chavez jr, a Golovkin, a Ward, a Hopkins, a Kovalev or a Stevenson...he talks legacy...whose he going to beat?

Froch has done nothing for me to be angry with him, I just recognize he's nothing special. I'm not going to sugercoat anything. He has the warrior mentality but all warriors fall. I don't think he's a top dog anymore, maybe he proves me wrong maybe he doesn't. I'm rarely wrong though so I'm going with my initial prediction. And why am I giving him credit for a win against Bute and even you admit he was untested? Pass lol..the guy has contributed a lot to the sport but his time has seem to come

You were on point with all the cali teams you mentioned but I'm proud to say I've always been a kings fan. But more importantly I'm a hooper, I love basketball. So I'm not scared to say my own team is on the outside looking in.

But you guys have a solid D, and a great cast for a star player. But if you guys weren't in the east man that team would be bottom feeders. Last year they made a respectable effort I like the gritty team they are just like the grizz. But rose is not on the rise anymore, I was just fucking with you cause I know your a Chicago fan through and through but rose will never be the same. Sad to see

But by no means was I comparing him to froch bra, I was simply pointing out rose might be closer to the end of his rope than the cobra at the pace his knees are getting cut and pasted. Let's face it the guy was a natural freak with a subpar jumper, without his bounce and charge he isnt gonna have those advantages over other guys anymore. It sucks cause the guy was a highlight machine but its part of the game.

Sort of like how its part of boxing that sometimes you have bad performances or even losses, shit Carl was counted out against lucian and put it on him so bad bute didn't even want his rematch clause. Like you said the guy isn't anything special, but fuck call me crazy, that's what I like sometimes about fighters! That's throwback, Danny Garcia for example, timothy Bradley. These guys work with what they got and fuck peoples plans up. Everybody talks about broner, ggg, Gary Russell. I know it sounds disrespectful but if these guys had half the fire of a Bradley or Garcia or froch they would ALREADY be sitting pretty as elite young talent. It might be easy to dismiss a fighter due to his flaws but its would be stupid to ignore their will and determinantion. Sometimes that alone wins you fights

What's that KD quote he always says " hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard"?
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post Dec 1 2013, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 1 2013, 04:57 PM) *
You were on point with all the cali teams you mentioned but I'm proud to say I've always been a kings fan. But more importantly I'm a hooper, I love basketball. So I'm not scared to say my own team is on the outside looking in.

But you guys have a solid D, and a great cast for a star player. But if you guys weren't in the east man that team would be bottom feeders. Last year they made a respectable effort I like the gritty team they are just like the grizz. But rose is not on the rise anymore, I was just fucking with you cause I know your a Chicago fan through and through but rose will never be the same. Sad to see

But by no means was I comparing him to froch bra, I was simply pointing out rose might be closer to the end of his rope than the cobra at the pace his knees are getting cut and pasted. Let's face it the guy was a natural freak with a subpar jumper, without his bounce and charge he isnt gonna have those advantages over other guys anymore. It sucks cause the guy was a highlight machine but its part of the game.

Sort of like how its part of boxing that sometimes you have bad performances or even losses, shit Carl was counted out against lucian and put it on him so bad bute didn't even want his rematch clause. Like you said the guy isn't anything special, but fuck call me crazy, that's what I like sometimes about fighters! That's throwback, Danny Garcia for example, timothy Bradley. These guys work with what they got and fuck peoples plans up. Everybody talks about broner, ggg, Gary Russell. I know it sounds disrespectful but if these guys had half the fire of a Bradley or Garcia or froch they would ALREADY be sitting pretty as elite young talent. It might be easy to dismiss a fighter due to his flaws but its would be stupid to ignore their will and determinantion. Sometimes that alone wins you fights

What's that KD quote he always says " hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard"?


The same KD who came up short against Lebron whose talent +hard work got him 2 rings. Brian Scalibrine worked hard and who the hell remembers him lol...take what athletes like Kd say with a grain of salt. Talent isn't shit without hard work. Skills pay the bills and those are the ones who are the ATG's not just someone who worked hard. You need more then hard work to be at an elite level


I liked Sacramento when they had white chocolate and C-Webb and later on Bibby. think they got cheated out a few rings like Portland back in the day. Don't get me started on that but as of today they will go nowhere as long as that headcase Demarcus is on their team, he's a cancer. A lot of talent but no maturity....and who says Derrick isn't going to ave what you claim, maybe your trolling me or just trying to prove a point but if you think a freakish athlete whose not even 26 and still growing and has mental strength is on the way out while an ordinary beaten and battered 30 plus fighter is somehow going on then I guess you are crazy. Derrick isn't a was he's an is, Froch is up for debate. His injury was a freak accidnet and it sucks because he was getting his rhythm back. As far as us being bottom feeders, I'm not on board with that when the best defenses play in the east. The Bulls, the Heat, and the Pacers. Defense when championships not seeding

Who says Gennady or Gary or an Adrien don't have the fire. I've very rarely seen the determination you speak of beat natural ability. Look at the fighters, the TOP fighters between 168-175 and pick out the names of them he can beat, the list is small imo. It is what it is, I call it how I see it. Never in the history of sports has an ordinary Joe just gone on after looking regular to go back up. People were on Bute's hype train, I was glad when Froch won, people thought he would get KO'd but he turned the tables. I'm not counting him out I'm simply professing a difference of opinion. He's had a run of great opposition just like Ward but that warrior shit only lasts so long. IMO it's Ward then it's everybody else. I look at the top dogs in and around his weight class and I think he puts up a competitive fight but doesn't win many of them

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- Jack 1000   AweTV:Froch vs. Groves@3PM(ET)/12PM(PT)-SPOILERS   Nov 23 2013, 02:24 PM
- - Gambit808   I'm going with Froch here by Decision. I think...   Nov 23 2013, 03:11 PM
- - Cshel86   This Naseem Hamed interview is hard to watch. When...   Nov 23 2013, 05:18 PM
- - Cshel86   Finally...they're making their way to the ring...   Nov 23 2013, 05:40 PM
- - Cshel86   WHOA!!!   Nov 23 2013, 05:51 PM
- - Cshel86   DOWN GOES FROCH FROM A RIGHT HAND BY GROVES!...   Nov 23 2013, 05:51 PM
- - Gambit808   Damn Froch down in the 1st round!   Nov 23 2013, 05:52 PM
- - Cshel86   Both guys jabbed throughout and it looked as thoug...   Nov 23 2013, 05:52 PM
- - Cshel86   Froch looked like he was still trying to recover i...   Nov 23 2013, 05:56 PM
- - Cshel86   Froch had a good moment in the 3rd, but he still l...   Nov 23 2013, 06:00 PM
- - Gambit808   Real good scrap so far but the momentum is still w...   Nov 23 2013, 06:00 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 23 2013, 06:00 PM)...   Nov 23 2013, 06:02 PM
- - Cshel86   Great, my fuckin' stream just froze up. Smh   Nov 23 2013, 06:03 PM
- - Cshel86   Who won the 4th? This shitty stream failed on me, ...   Nov 23 2013, 06:04 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 23 2013, 06:04 PM) W...   Nov 23 2013, 06:09 PM
- - Gambit808   I never liked when Froch squares up when he flurri...   Nov 23 2013, 06:06 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 23 2013, 06:06 PM)...   Nov 23 2013, 06:08 PM
- - Cshel86   Froch aint settin' up shit..he just wants to s...   Nov 23 2013, 06:07 PM
- - Gambit808   SEE HE'S HURT AGAIN! Squaring up and flurr...   Nov 23 2013, 06:11 PM
- - Cshel86   Froch was about to go in the 6th...as Gambit menti...   Nov 23 2013, 06:12 PM
- - Cshel86   If Groves doesn't get Froch outta there, then ...   Nov 23 2013, 06:17 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 23 2013, 06:17 PM) I...   Nov 23 2013, 06:21 PM
- - Cshel86   Froch is still getting caught flush, but he aint g...   Nov 23 2013, 06:21 PM
- - Jack 1000   What are unofficial scores at this point? Jack   Nov 23 2013, 06:22 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 23 2013, 06:22 PM)...   Nov 23 2013, 06:26 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 23 2013, 06:22 PM)...   Nov 23 2013, 06:29 PM
- - Gambit808   WOW!   Nov 23 2013, 06:23 PM
- - Cshel86   WHOA! What kind of stoppage was that in the 9t...   Nov 23 2013, 06:23 PM
- - Gambit808   Bullshit home court stoppage SMH.   Nov 23 2013, 06:24 PM
- - Cshel86   That was a bullshit stoppage man. If that was the ...   Nov 23 2013, 06:26 PM
- - Cshel86   Froch is such a dick. This post-fight interview sa...   Nov 23 2013, 06:39 PM
|- - Gambit808   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 23 2013, 06:39 PM) F...   Nov 23 2013, 06:52 PM
- - mgrover   coming all the way from amsterdam haha, questionab...   Nov 23 2013, 06:51 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 23 2013, 05:51 PM) c...   Nov 23 2013, 07:21 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 24 2013, 12:21 AM)...   Nov 23 2013, 07:25 PM
- - mrchitown   Pissed I missed it but reading the comments Froch ...   Nov 23 2013, 07:00 PM
- - Jack 1000   The worst premature stoppage since Tyson-Rudduck I...   Nov 24 2013, 04:57 PM
- - emd01   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 24 2013, 01:57 PM)...   Nov 24 2013, 11:59 PM
- - Jack 1000   More potential controversy, A fan of ref Howard F...   Nov 25 2013, 11:43 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 25 2013, 11:43 PM)...   Nov 25 2013, 11:56 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Nov 25 2013, 10:56 PM)...   Nov 26 2013, 01:36 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 26 2013, 01:36 AM)...   Nov 26 2013, 09:21 AM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 23 2013, 07:51 PM) c...   Nov 26 2013, 02:48 AM
- - Cshel86   Still laughing at how Groves had Froch on the canv...   Nov 26 2013, 12:22 PM
- - mgrover   People make it sound like its the worst stoppage e...   Nov 28 2013, 08:02 PM
- - Jack 1000   I Tweeted to the WBA/IBF about the stoppage. The ...   Nov 28 2013, 11:10 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 28 2013, 11:10 PM)...   Nov 29 2013, 05:06 PM
- - mrchitown   The stoppage was questionable. Get over it! Th...   Nov 29 2013, 05:05 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Nov 29 2013, 10:05 PM)...   Nov 29 2013, 09:23 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 29 2013, 09:23 PM) H...   Nov 30 2013, 12:04 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 29 2013, 10:23 PM) H...   Nov 30 2013, 10:10 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 1 2013, 03:10 AM) ...   Nov 30 2013, 10:18 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 30 2013, 09:10 PM)...   Nov 30 2013, 11:15 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 30 2013, 11:18 PM) Y...   Nov 30 2013, 11:04 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Dec 1 2013, 12:15 AM) ...   Dec 1 2013, 01:21 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 1 2013, 12:21 AM) ...   Dec 1 2013, 05:12 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Dec 1 2013, 10:12 PM) ...   Dec 1 2013, 07:00 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 1 2013, 06:00 PM) Ch...   Dec 1 2013, 09:23 PM
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|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 1 2013, 04:57 PM) ...   Dec 1 2013, 09:38 PM
- - Jack 1000   Update: IBF Mandates Froch-Groves II Rematch ord...   Jan 24 2014, 08:45 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jan 24 2014, 07:45 PM)...   Jan 24 2014, 09:15 PM
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