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MAHDI
post Nov 29 2013, 12:31 PM
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I was watching mayweather vs Castillo II. Mayweather won handily yet had to work his ass off.. Castillo was able to check his chin on occassion with hard shots...Now Mayweather is beating guys with ease... dudes more than ten years his jr in many cases... What he did to JMM with his 2 year layoff was amazing no matter the 2 pound weight issue---Mayweather is more accurate and even better defensively and hardly gets touched. Mayweather is better now than ever
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post Dec 4 2013, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (MAHDI @ Dec 3 2013, 05:56 PM) *
I think it is more of Pac having shown nothing that would seem to trouble mayweather... He was kod by a less effective counter puncher than Floyd and out boxed by a lesser boxer than Floyd. Hopefully he and Pac fight-- I see it being EASY WORK for Floyd but I want to see it.


The question is, how can Pac beat Mayweather? Pac has never been close to a fighter of May's caliber. what did uncle Roger say? Speed don't mean shit if you don't know how to use it. Manny looked hesitate against Rios, RIOS! His foot work is what got him TKO by JMM. You are going to need more than speed to beat May. Is Pac smarter than Mayweather inside the ring?

QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 4 2013, 01:00 AM) *
clearly has, speed and angles. He was KOed by a less effective counter puncher but that's simply because Marquez is a more aggressive counter puncher than Floyd


Thank you!
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Dec 4 2013, 06:54 AM) *
True indeed. But Marquez's aggression played against him in all 4 meetings, until he finally landed the shot he'd been looking for in the previous meetings between he and Manny. Mayweather doesn't have the pop of Marquez but he's an assassin, accuracy is just as important as power and he's then most accurate in the game...Emmanuel Steward would always say something about Floyd that I believe to this day and that's if he wanted to, he could stop these guys.

I too, believe that if he would've stepped up the offense a bit more that he could've stopped Mosley, he definitely could've stopped Cotto in that last round but he buzzed him and then started moving as if his mission was complete. Even in 09, his fight against Marquez he could've got him out of there before the 10th imo. He just doesn't go for it like others, he's content to go rounds. He and Marquez are assassins but Mayweather is deadly accurate with his shots and that would pose a serious problem to Pacquiao


Let;s not forget the Bradley fight. He did nothing to serious hurt or stop Bradley from walking him down. Reminder, Bradley had a hurt ankle and Pac still could not impose his will. Against skilled fighters he looks terrible but against brawlers he looks great, Mosley even clocked him and Mosley has been past it. I do not think May is in love with the KO. I think he likes to know that he is the superior boxer, he performs for himself.
QUOTE (Franchize @ Dec 4 2013, 07:15 AM) *
Before I answer respond to the OP, can we stop saying Marquez landed one shot? That was the SECOND knockdown score for JMM of the fight. He didn't get lucky. He was countering Manny all night. And as far as Manny's speed, #1 Floyd is fast as well. #2 Floyd's jab to the belly (which is his most underrated punch IMO) can negate that. He did it to Oscar. He did it to Cotto. He did it to Guerrero.

As far as the OP, I thought Floyd may be losing a step when he fought Cotto. Maybe it was all talk and he really wasn't trying to mix it up. Maybe he just ran out of gas finally. Then I saw him vs Guerrero. Then I saw him vs Canelo. That wasn't "Money" Mayweather out there. That was Pretty Boy Floyd! That was the fighter that turned me from an occasional casual fan to a guy who loves boxing almost 2 decades ago. I don't if it's the addition of Sr, I don't know if it's even more dedication to his craft, I don't know if it was the time in jail etc etc etc. All I know is, the Floyd that fought in those last 2 fights was moving in the ring better than he has probably since the Marquez fight. Maybe even better than that. Floyd's footwork hasn't been that good since he fought Carlos Baldomir....and That's SCARY! To have those physical gifts with all that ring IQ. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shok.gif)

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- MAHDI   FLOYD MAYWEATHER   Nov 29 2013, 12:31 PM
- - HyyerBlaze   Castillo would whoop up Guerrero and Ortiz though ...   Nov 29 2013, 12:49 PM
- - MAHDI   QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Nov 29 2013, 12:49 PM...   Nov 29 2013, 01:08 PM
- - mgrover   Is he though? Whats happening now is that he's...   Nov 29 2013, 01:29 PM
|- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 29 2013, 12:29 PM) I...   Nov 30 2013, 12:26 AM
||- - mgrover   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Nov 30 2013, 05:26 AM)...   Nov 30 2013, 09:31 AM
||- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 30 2013, 08:31 AM) I...   Dec 1 2013, 11:05 PM
||- - mgrover   QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Dec 2 2013, 04:05 AM) ...   Dec 3 2013, 06:00 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 29 2013, 01:29 PM) I...   Dec 2 2013, 09:27 PM
- - MAHDI   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 29 2013, 01:29 PM) I...   Nov 29 2013, 02:40 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (MAHDI @ Nov 29 2013, 07:40 PM) Did...   Nov 29 2013, 05:13 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   As a fighter, your experience is suppose to advanc...   Nov 29 2013, 06:31 PM
- - BoxingEinstein   Floyd is the type of fighter that learns from his ...   Nov 29 2013, 07:59 PM
|- - Marcus   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Nov 29 2013, 08:5...   Nov 30 2013, 03:03 PM
- - Marcus   My biggest regret about Floyd was the Ortiz fight....   Nov 30 2013, 03:13 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Marcus @ Nov 30 2013, 08:13 PM) My...   Nov 30 2013, 04:00 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 30 2013, 03:00 PM) H...   Nov 30 2013, 11:24 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Dec 1 2013, 04:24 AM) ...   Dec 1 2013, 09:53 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 1 2013, 08:53 AM) He...   Dec 1 2013, 04:56 PM
- - checkleft   Floyd is a better fighter now. Not because of his ...   Nov 30 2013, 05:53 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 30 2013, 10:53 PM)...   Nov 30 2013, 11:16 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 1 2013, 12:16 AM) ob...   Dec 1 2013, 04:02 PM
- - BrutUalBK   Honestly it outright terms of just sheer physical ...   Dec 2 2013, 11:40 PM
- - MAHDI   He is a better fighter now. More accurate. Slowed ...   Dec 3 2013, 08:45 AM
- - Dolimite   I think he is a better fighter now, because he is ...   Dec 3 2013, 05:04 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 3 2013, 10:04 PM) I...   Dec 3 2013, 06:03 PM
- - MAHDI   QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 3 2013, 06:03 PM) Lo...   Dec 3 2013, 08:56 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (MAHDI @ Dec 4 2013, 01:56 AM) I th...   Dec 4 2013, 04:00 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 4 2013, 03:00 AM) cl...   Dec 4 2013, 09:54 AM
- - Franchize   Before I answer respond to the OP, can we stop say...   Dec 4 2013, 10:15 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (MAHDI @ Dec 3 2013, 05:56 PM) I th...   Dec 4 2013, 12:42 PM


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