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post Feb 5 2014, 01:23 PM
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http://www.fighthype.com/news/external/ind...cold-war--74372


“You [have to] understand that whatever is said, it has nothing to do with ‘they won’t do business with us’ or ‘we don’t’ do business with them’. That’s all bullsh*t. I mean I lived with [Don] King for so many years where we were competitors and we did business together. The problem is Showtime. Showtime won’t deal with any promoter except Golden Boy! So why should I take a fighter and give them to Showtime when they won’t deal with Top Rank or any other promoter other than Golden Boy,”

they offered you Doniare vs mares and showed you the money dont use that one.

“Showtime is the one that’s at fault and CBS has allowed them to get away with this kind of thing. It’s never happened before in the sport of boxing where one entity only deals with one promoter. When is the last time another promoter – forget Top Rank – any other promoter has put a fight on for Showtime?”

is there truth to this?



“ they take a fight a Canelo-Angulo which belongs on Showtime and they put it on pay per view. What is that?”

ill give that one to him that is not a ppv fight.



“They have a guy [Stephen Espinoza] in charge of Showtime Sports, he signed Mayweather; if you’re a subscriber for Showtime, what the hell difference does it mean to you? Mayweather isn’t on Showtime, he’s on pay-per-view. If you have a subscription, you can’t see a Mayweather fight on Showtime. It’s ridiculous”.

100% truth ...i hate to say it but bob has a very valid point!


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post Feb 8 2014, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 5 2014, 12:23 PM) *
http://www.fighthype.com/news/external/ind...cold-war--74372


“You [have to] understand that whatever is said, it has nothing to do with ‘they won’t do business with us’ or ‘we don’t’ do business with them’. That’s all bullsh*t. I mean I lived with [Don] King for so many years where we were competitors and we did business together. The problem is Showtime. Showtime won’t deal with any promoter except Golden Boy! So why should I take a fighter and give them to Showtime when they won’t deal with Top Rank or any other promoter other than Golden Boy,”

they offered you Doniare vs mares and showed you the money dont use that one.

“Showtime is the one that’s at fault and CBS has allowed them to get away with this kind of thing. It’s never happened before in the sport of boxing where one entity only deals with one promoter. When is the last time another promoter – forget Top Rank – any other promoter has put a fight on for Showtime?”

is there truth to this?



“ they take a fight a Canelo-Angulo which belongs on Showtime and they put it on pay per view. What is that?”

ill give that one to him that is not a ppv fight.



“They have a guy [Stephen Espinoza] in charge of Showtime Sports, he signed Mayweather; if you’re a subscriber for Showtime, what the hell difference does it mean to you? Mayweather isn’t on Showtime, he’s on pay-per-view. If you have a subscription, you can’t see a Mayweather fight on Showtime. It’s ridiculous”.

100% truth ...i hate to say it but bob has a very valid point!


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The thing that sticks out the most that I disagree with is your statement of Canelo vs Angulo not being PPV, I think the exposure that Floyd gave to Saul has made him a star and he picked the perfect candidate in Angulo to duel with because basically Angulo is an Arturo Gatti type who simply comes forward offering little defense which makes for an action-packed affair.

I think you'll be mildly surprised how well this fight sells once the ppv numbers come forward. Arum is FOS though, I can't hardly believe anything that comes out of his lying a$$ mouth.
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- AZWildCat   Bob Arum on "the cold war"   Feb 5 2014, 01:23 PM
- - mgrover   QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 5 2014, 06:23 PM) ...   Feb 5 2014, 01:24 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 5 2014, 01:24 PM) ev...   Feb 5 2014, 11:06 PM
- - AZWildCat   QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 5 2014, 01:23 PM) ...   Feb 5 2014, 06:51 PM
|- - ryustuh   QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 5 2014, 06:51 PM) ...   Feb 5 2014, 09:16 PM
|- - AZWildCat   QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 5 2014, 10:16 PM) ju...   Feb 5 2014, 09:50 PM
|- - ryustuh   QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 5 2014, 09:50 PM) ...   Feb 5 2014, 10:00 PM
|- - AZWildCat   QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 5 2014, 10:00 PM) ha...   Feb 5 2014, 10:16 PM
- - ryustuh   QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 5 2014, 01:23 PM) ...   Feb 5 2014, 09:12 PM
- - mrchitown   Usual rhetoric, 99% bullshit with 1% truth. Truth ...   Feb 5 2014, 10:21 PM
|- - AZWildCat   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 5 2014, 11:21 PM) ...   Feb 5 2014, 11:05 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 5 2014, 10:05 PM) ...   Feb 6 2014, 10:11 AM
- - Dolimite   Pacquiao doesn't fight on HBO if that is the c...   Feb 6 2014, 11:29 AM
|- - AZWildCat   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 6 2014, 11:29 AM) P...   Feb 6 2014, 02:23 PM
- - Dolimite   Rob Arum, said on FNF on ESPN, the reason why Floy...   Feb 7 2014, 10:23 PM
|- - ryustuh   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 7 2014, 11:23 PM) R...   Feb 7 2014, 10:47 PM
|- - AZWildCat   QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 7 2014, 10:47 PM) th...   Feb 7 2014, 11:03 PM
|- - ryustuh   QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 8 2014, 12:03 AM) ...   Feb 7 2014, 11:08 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 7 2014, 10:08 PM) i ...   Feb 7 2014, 11:19 PM
|- - ryustuh   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 8 2014, 12:19 AM) ...   Feb 7 2014, 11:21 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 7 2014, 10:21 PM) LM...   Feb 7 2014, 11:25 PM
|- - ryustuh   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 8 2014, 12:25 AM) ...   Feb 7 2014, 11:28 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 7 2014, 10:28 PM) th...   Feb 7 2014, 11:38 PM
- - AZWildCat   Man you got pacman fanatics preaching this stuff l...   Feb 7 2014, 10:51 PM
- - ryustuh   the only positive thing i will say about those in ...   Feb 7 2014, 10:58 PM
|- - AZWildCat   QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 7 2014, 10:58 PM) th...   Feb 7 2014, 11:05 PM
- - mrchitown   Arum will take 1 step forward then say or do somet...   Feb 7 2014, 11:22 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 5 2014, 12:23 PM) ...   Feb 8 2014, 09:52 PM


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