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ryustuh
post Feb 6 2014, 11:09 PM
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i like keith thurman and think he's got endless potential, but a lot of others don't share this view and bring up his resume for its lack of strong, top-tier opponents. is thurman just another hype job, or do you think he goes far in his career? who would be a good test for him now that would add more value to thurman's name?

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post Feb 6 2014, 11:14 PM
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Your kidding me right???
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post Feb 6 2014, 11:23 PM
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I'll give Thurman more credit for his career (thus far), than the silly shit Berto was doing early in his career...more so the HBO days. Aside from Collazo, and maybe Quitana, Berto was fed bus drivers and janitors.

Keith on the other hand, has been put in with Orlando Lora (whom Paulie and one of the Charlo twins fought), an old Quintana (whom had come off of KO victory over Lattimore on the Mayweather/Cotto card), Zaveck, Chaves, Karass (whom just KO'd Berto)...hmm...me thinks that Berto didn't have these types of fights early in his career.
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post Feb 6 2014, 11:23 PM
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I wasn't sold on him at first but with each fight he's shown growth and new wrinkles to his game. He's very impressive in the outings that he's had thus far. I don't know if he's a hype job because there isn't much hype around him. But I do agree it's time for him to get in there with the big dogs. I think he's exciting enough and is skilled enough for a big name fight in the welterweight division

And we also have to remember that there was talk even when he was fighting in HBO that it was hard for him to get fights @147 and that he might move up to 154. His resume isn't the strongest this we know this but I'd like to see him in a fight with a Maidana or a Porter. Hell, Guerrero turned him down, that let's you know how his peers view him. It's a lot of fights for him. Let him blast Khan's teeth out, maybe finish off Ortiz. He needs those names to strengthen his resume. But I expect him to be a force to be reckoned with for a long time
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post Feb 6 2014, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 6 2014, 11:23 PM) *
I wasn't sold on him at first but with each fight he's shown growth and new wrinkles to his game. He's very impressive in the outings that he's had thus far. I don't know if he's a hype job because there isn't much hype around him. But I do agree it's time for him to get in there with the big dogs. I think he's exciting enough and is skilled enough for a big name fight in the welterweight division

And we also have to remember that there was talk even when he was fighting in HBO that it was hard for him to get fights @147 and that he might move up to 154. His resume isn't the strongest this we know this but I'd like to see him in a fight with a Maidana or a Porter. Hell, Guerrero turned him down, that let's you know how his peers view him. It's a lot of fights for him. Let him blast Khan's teeth out, maybe finish off Ortiz. He needs those names to strengthen his resume. But I expect him to be a force to be reckoned with for a long time

I remember this fight was supposed to happen in July 2012, but suddenly, Maidanan's team pulled out and fought Karass a couple of months later. Lol
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post Feb 6 2014, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 7 2014, 12:14 AM) *
Your kidding me right???


like i said i like what i see in his fights, and i think he's got the goods. he's crafty, he's slick, and he can thump. but look at the guys he's fought. maybe i'm not seeing something, but the only names that mean anything to me are lora, zavek, soto karass, and quintana. they're not exactly A-level. hate to bring up ggg, but it goes along the same lines...of course gennady's in a diff class in terms of how much attention he's gotten recently, but still, if we're skeptical of gennady's resume shouldn't we be wary of thurman's as well? who's to say keith could do more of what he's done against some top level opponents?

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post Feb 6 2014, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 6 2014, 10:26 PM) *
I remember this fight was supposed to happen in July 2012, but suddenly, Maidanan's team pulled out and fought Karass a couple of months later. Lol


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post Feb 6 2014, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 6 2014, 10:26 PM) *
like i said i like what i see in his fights, and i think he's got the goods. he's crafty, he's slick, and he can thump. but look at the guys he's fought. maybe i'm not seeing something, but the only names that mean anything to me are lora, zavek, soto karass, and quintana. they're not exactly A-level. hate to bring up ggg, but it goes along the same lines...of course gennady's in a diff class in terms of how much attention he's gotten recently, but still, if we're skeptical of gennady's resume shouldn't we be wary of thurman's as well? who's to say keith could do more of what he's done against some top level opponents?


Good point. Until we see more from both in terms of quality opposition and how they handle themselves in those fights, we should be a bit skeptical...i do believe Thurman is a star in the making though. he just needs the big fights to prove it.

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post Feb 7 2014, 12:06 AM
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I didn't really mess with him until his fight vs Deigo Chavez....Watch that fight and it will answer the question to this topic, he proved every exactly why he's where he's at, gotta respect it. Packs a punch, takes a punch, box and move on the go, puts together nice combos, OVERCOMES!

I'm betting on Thurman over alot of the current 147 right now. He just needs his big fights, when the stage gets bigger he shows up.

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post Feb 7 2014, 12:28 AM
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Ghost said no maidana said fuck that and collazo said I was in the moment ...its real

The quintana fight was at 154 Chi

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