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Cshel86
post Feb 10 2014, 12:11 PM
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http://www.fighthype.com/news/article16127.html

The article asks the only questions that need to be asked...

1. Why is this still being negotiated?
2. Shouldn't this have been squared away before they signed the contracts to fight?

My questions are:

1. Is USADA or VADA conducting the tests, or has Arum's version of testing (via the NSAC and his strongarm tactics) already been mentioned?
2. Is somebody asking for a cutoff date?
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post Feb 10 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 10 2014, 09:11 AM) *
http://www.fighthype.com/news/article16127.html

The article asks the only questions that need to be asked...

1. Why is this still being negotiated?
2. Shouldn't this have been squared away before they signed the contracts to fight?

My questions are:

1. Is USADA or VADA conducting the tests, or has Arum's version of testing (via the NSAC and his strongarm tactics) already been mentioned?
2. Is somebody asking for a cutoff date?

I think they want VADA but Bradley had said something about his issues with VADA. It was on boxingscene a week ago. It does sound bad especially since Manny will be doing the majority of his training in his home country. If Manny looks like freaking Manny of 09 then shit is going to look suspicious. He has a new SC coach who is suppose to be a former cheat. Fortune is his name. Bradley is in an odd position.
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post Feb 10 2014, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 10 2014, 05:44 PM) *
I think they want VADA but Bradley had said something about his issues with VADA. It was on boxingscene a week ago. It does sound bad especially since Manny will be doing the majority of his training in his home country. If Manny looks like freaking Manny of 09 then shit is going to look suspicious. He has a new SC coach who is suppose to be a former cheat. Fortune is his name. Bradley is in an odd position.


Prove it
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post Feb 10 2014, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 10 2014, 04:06 PM) *
Prove it


Freddie Roach said it yrs ago and I believe he brought it up again late last year. He did an interview with the Ring in which he said Fortune was on PED's and he knew about it
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post Feb 10 2014, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 10 2014, 10:33 PM) *
Freddie Roach said it yrs ago and I believe he brought it up again late last year. He did an interview with the Ring in which he said Fortune was on PED's and he knew about it


Later Freddie was sued for defamation and lost or something. Also what Freddie said is that Justin took steriods I believe it was during a powerlifting event, which isn't what you'd call cheating if it was legal.
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post Feb 10 2014, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 10 2014, 05:55 PM) *
Later Freddie was sued for defamation and lost or something. Also what Freddie said is that Justin took steriods I believe it was during a powerlifting event, which isn't what you'd call cheating if it was legal.


When has steroids been legal except for medicinal purposes? A weightlifter using steroids isn't new but I've never known it to be legal..and I have tried to find articles, anything to say he won the defamation but I found one article and he dropped it

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/02/...t-out-in-court/

After discussing boxer James Toney, Roach then told the reporter, “I think had one other fighter on steroids … Justin Fortune. I know that he’d been there before.”
In a sworn declaration in support of the dismissal motion, Roach said Fortune admitted to him that he used performance enhancing drugs, or PEDs.

“During the time that I trained (Fortune), (he) told me that he had used cycled performance enhancing drugs when he was training for the World Games as a power lifter in his home country of Australia,” Roach said in the statement. “Based on the information provided me by plaintiff, I believed that (he) had used PEDs.”


http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articl...it-feel-so-good

This is the only thing I've found even alluding to the lawsuit

The Aussie Fortune, who fought pro as a heavyweight, from 1990-2001, and came back for a one-off in 2009, was all good with Roach in 2005. They worked on Manny together, and had business dealings with each other. By April 2007, Roach and Fortune parted ways, supposedly amicably, with Roach agreeing to send some overflow clients Fortune’s way. But amicable turned ugly a month later, with Roach saying Fortune jumped ship without telling him face to face. It was said that a seed of discontent was planted when Roach trained Oscar De La Hoya to face Floyd Mayweather and had Fortune work with Pacman (seen with Roach in Chris Farina-Top Rank photo). Roach said Fortune didn't hand over a chunk of pay owed to him. In 2010, Roach was quoted in a story saying that along with James Toney, one other fighter of his had been busted for using illegal PEDs: Fortune. Fortune said he would sue Roach. It looks like that threat petered out, and it looks like maybe, time has healed some wounds.

I can't find anything that said he won
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- Cshel86   Why is Testing Still Being Negotiated for Pac/Bradley II???   Feb 10 2014, 12:11 PM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 10 2014, 09:11 AM) h...   Feb 10 2014, 12:44 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 10 2014, 05:44 PM) ...   Feb 10 2014, 05:06 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 10 2014, 04:06 PM) P...   Feb 10 2014, 05:33 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 10 2014, 10:33 PM)...   Feb 10 2014, 06:55 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 10 2014, 06:55 PM) L...   Feb 10 2014, 07:04 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 10 2014, 05:55 PM) L...   Feb 10 2014, 10:30 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 11 2014, 03:30 AM)...   Feb 11 2014, 04:37 AM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 11 2014, 03:37 AM) W...   Feb 11 2014, 08:31 AM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 11 2014, 01:31 PM)...   Feb 11 2014, 08:50 AM
- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:11 PM) h...   Feb 10 2014, 12:46 PM
- - ryustuh   at this point, bradley might be second guessing hi...   Feb 10 2014, 01:10 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (ryustuh @ Feb 10 2014, 12:10 PM) a...   Feb 10 2014, 05:17 PM
- - BigDDatHomey   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:11 PM) h...   Feb 10 2014, 06:10 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:46 P...   Feb 10 2014, 07:08 PM
- - aTYpicalTYrant   This shit has gotten so old. At some point the gov...   Feb 10 2014, 07:32 PM
- - Franchize   I could have swore Bradley declared VADA would han...   Feb 10 2014, 11:08 PM
- - DigitalBoom   People assuming Pacquaio is the issue here..didn...   Feb 11 2014, 02:43 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Franchize @ Feb 10 2014, 09:08 PM)...   Feb 11 2014, 09:09 AM


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