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Col Reb
post Mar 2 2014, 05:20 PM
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First of all, this is such an interesting fight. We have no idea which Martinez will show. A recovered Martinez should be too much for Cotto, but I think Cotto can beat a diminished Martinez. If Cotto becomes the lineal MW champ, he is in incredible position to make a ton of money in his next fight. While some are far-fetched, let's just entertain the ideas:

1) Mayweather rematch - This fight just makes too much sense from both a money and a legacy standpoint. I think it's a no-brainer call for Floyd, one of his most exciting options and a chance to get that historical notch on the belt of being MW champ. Cotto will have plenty of leverage though.

2) Canelo fight - This is another big money PPV for Cotto. It will sell like crazy, though less than a Floyd fight would sell. If he was supposedly getting $15 mil for Canelo now, imagine when he is the champ and a Mayweather fight is an option.

3) Pacquiao rematch - This is a bit of a stretch, but I see Bob Arum at least trying to bid for another Top Rank fight for Cotto. This would be historic for Manny as well (they're not above asking for a catchweight of 155), and it would give Cotto a chance to avenge his KO loss. Plus it would give Top Rank another carrot to get Manny to re-sign. If nothing else, Arum could use this chip to get Cotto more money at the table with Floyd. The biggest roadblock, which is most probably a deal-breaker, is that both are trained by Roach.

4) Chavez fight - This fight is the biggest stretch, as it's doubtful if Chavez could make the weight. If he could, it would be an exciting fight that would continue the Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry (as would Canelo) and sell big time.


While it's certainly no given that Cotto wins and that the other guys win their next fights, it sure will be fun to watch the aftermath of such a victory. While it seems so obvious that a Mayweather rematch would happen next, you just never know. What do you think Cotto would do if he were to beat Martinez?
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post Mar 12 2014, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 10 2014, 02:34 PM) *
http://www.boxingscene.com/photos-cotto-ma...rto-rico--75490

Martinez is going to kill Cotto. Scary!!!!

Maaaaan, I saw the pics from Monday...all I can do is shake my head. Styles do make fights, and I'm hoping that Cotto just jumps on him early and stays on him, but this may be a pending death wish for Miguel.

Granted, Martinez is looking his age, maybe because he has to shed a few lbs, but Martinez is in front of the right guy to make him look like the Sergio of 2010 and 2011. Cotto's not gonna lay down, but at this stage of his career and this weight, I take zero pleasure in saying that it will be quite an easy night for Sergio.

Again, Miguel was able to show us a lot of fire in the Mayweather fight, being that he had all of those years to watch him and hone his craft, because he had to know that he was going to fight him one day. The Martinez fight, not so much...this may be another one of the fights "for the fans", but Cotto usually looks like an aging warrior in those fights, because he choose to fight guys with the worst styles...this fight included.

QUOTE (TheCritics @ Mar 10 2014, 02:39 PM) *
I disagree that he's in the drivers seat with anything, that 160 trinket is worthless, I for one don't want to see 2 blown up welters fighting for some strap that they won't even defend against anyone else except one another

Usually, I'd tell a guy who complains about not wanting to see certain fights, to "not watch them" and "spare us the agony of your opinion", but in this case, I couldn't agree with you more. Blown up welterweights fighting at MW, usually consisted of guys are at the end of their career, and they're moving up for bigger paydays (on their terms).

However, some of these divisions still need these stars (from their prior respective divisions) to add some light to the division. It puts me in the mind of guys like Morales, who shouldn't have fought anywhere past 130 lbs, but he came back at 140 (I believe he fought a couple of unknown cab drivers at 147, but I'm not sure)...he gave the division a breath of life, or a twist, so to speak.

We all remember how promising the 140 lbs division was back from '09-'11, but guys were either moving up to 47, or not fighting the top guys at 140...so he came back and gave it a pretty good run, before he fizzled out. Same with the 168 division, if Sergio moves up there, he can at least give us a few good fights before he calls it a day. If somebody looking for a big break obliterates him, then they could at least build their brand from there.

It's a cycle, but yeah, I get you...people get tired of seeing guys who blown up 2 divisions higher than they're supposed to be, trying to make an easy run in the division. Lol
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post Mar 12 2014, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 12 2014, 01:57 PM) *
Maaaaan, I saw the pics from Monday...all I can do is shake my head. Styles do make fights, and I'm hoping that Cotto just jumps on him early and stays on him, but this may be a pending death wish for Miguel.

Granted, Martinez is looking his age, maybe because he has to shed a few lbs, but Martinez is in front of the right guy to make him look like the Sergio of 2010 and 2011. Cotto's not gonna lay down, but at this stage of his career and this weight, I take zero pleasure in saying that it will be quite an easy night for Sergio.

Again, Miguel was able to show us a lot of fire in the Mayweather fight, being that he had all of those years to watch him and hone his craft, because he had to know that he was going to fight him one day. The Martinez fight, not so much...this may be another one of the fights "for the fans", but Cotto usually looks like an aging warrior in those fights, because he choose to fight guys with the worst styles...this fight included.


Usually, I'd tell a guy who complains about not wanting to see certain fights, to "not watch them" and "spare us the agony of your opinion", but in this case, I couldn't agree with you more. Blown up welterweights fighting at MW, usually consisted of guys are at the end of their career, and they're moving up for bigger paydays (on their terms).

However, some of these divisions still need these stars (from their prior respective divisions) to add some light to the division. It puts me in the mind of guys like Morales, who shouldn't have fought anywhere past 130 lbs, but he came back at 140 (I believe he fought a couple of unknown cab drivers at 147, but I'm not sure)...he gave the division a breath of life, or a twist, so to speak.

We all remember how promising the 140 lbs division was back from '09-'11, but guys were either moving up to 47, or not fighting the top guys at 140...so he came back and gave it a pretty good run, before he fizzled out. Same with the 168 division, if Sergio moves up there, he can at least give us a few good fights before he calls it a day. If somebody looking for a big break obliterates him, then they could at least build their brand from there.

It's a cycle, but yeah, I get you...people get tired of seeing guys who blown up 2 divisions higher than they're supposed to be, trying to make an easy run in the division. Lol


Morales came back fighting! He may not have won em all/or in spectacular fashion but to his credit. Did better than karass Lopez & broner against maidana. Did better than Shane and Pauline against Cano (which he stopped). And in the first Garcia fight looked better than zab and Lucas and Khan. For being past his prime he handled himself fairly well. If he had a strength coach and some type of dietary guidance he might have looked alot better. Instead of struggling to make weight and fighting off of pure instinct, I guess he was to arrogant or cheap for that type of help i guess. Probably could have came back at 130 matter of fact. Imagine if he had memo for the 3 pac fights lol. Yea 140 was stacked at that time alot of people have fizzled out or moved up since then.
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- Col Reb   Cotto in driver's seat for big buck$ with Martinez win   Mar 2 2014, 05:20 PM
- - TheCritics   Cotto fans are so funny, he isn't even a legit...   Mar 2 2014, 05:24 PM
- - Franchize   Cotto winning this fight put's him in the driv...   Mar 2 2014, 06:53 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Franchize @ Mar 2 2014, 05:53 PM) ...   Mar 2 2014, 10:50 PM
|- - Franchize   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 2 2014, 10:50 PM) ...   Mar 3 2014, 12:36 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Franchize @ Mar 3 2014, 11:36 AM) ...   Mar 3 2014, 05:35 PM
- - BrutUalBK   QUOTE (Col Reb @ Mar 2 2014, 04:20 PM) Fi...   Mar 2 2014, 09:40 PM
- - Marcus   QUOTE (Col Reb @ Mar 2 2014, 05:20 PM) Fi...   Mar 2 2014, 10:24 PM
- - mrchitown   Ain't no way in hell a Pacquiao rematch happen...   Mar 2 2014, 10:46 PM
- - Dolimite   Cotto maybe getting paid. but he is going to take ...   Mar 2 2014, 11:30 PM
- - AZWildCat   IF cotto wins Floyd would be his #1 choice money w...   Mar 3 2014, 10:14 AM
- - Cshel86   Cotto gets beat into retirement on June 7th...   Mar 3 2014, 01:38 PM
- - TheCritics   Miguel beat a complete no-hoper in Delvin and his ...   Mar 3 2014, 02:43 PM
- - TheCritics   mrchitown, having the ability to hold more people ...   Mar 3 2014, 06:32 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (TheCritics @ Mar 3 2014, 05:32 PM)...   Mar 4 2014, 07:11 PM
- - Hotsauce   cotto/floyd 2 in msg would be a crazy ass atmosphe...   Mar 4 2014, 05:41 PM
- - TheCritics   here we go with the ole "back in the days tal...   Mar 4 2014, 09:37 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (TheCritics @ Mar 4 2014, 08:37 PM)...   Mar 5 2014, 10:31 AM
- - Cshel86   I just don't like the idea of Cotto "bein...   Mar 5 2014, 10:38 AM
- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 3 2014, 11:38 AM) Co...   Mar 5 2014, 11:57 AM
- - mrchitown   Cshel, Dolomite, I have to agree with you guys. I ...   Mar 5 2014, 12:23 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 5 2014, 09:23 AM) ...   Mar 5 2014, 01:03 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 5 2014, 12:03 PM) R...   Mar 5 2014, 02:11 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 5 2014, 12:11 PM) ...   Mar 5 2014, 07:08 PM
- - TheCritics   MSG, Barclays and the MGM are the same to me... sa...   Mar 5 2014, 01:52 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (TheCritics @ Mar 5 2014, 12:52 PM)...   Mar 5 2014, 02:09 PM
- - TheCritics   I felt he lost too, so did my entire section of ol...   Mar 5 2014, 06:53 PM
- - AZWildCat   I'd say ref if it comes to that point   Mar 5 2014, 07:18 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   Yall killing me with this "if he's not 10...   Mar 8 2014, 04:05 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Mar 8 2014, 04:05 ...   Mar 8 2014, 04:16 PM
- - Col Reb   I wasn't saying that I'm picking Cotto, bu...   Mar 10 2014, 01:15 PM
|- - Dolimite   QUOTE (Col Reb @ Mar 10 2014, 11:15 AM) I...   Mar 10 2014, 01:33 PM
- - Dolimite   http://www.boxingscene.com/photos-cotto-ma...rto-r...   Mar 10 2014, 01:34 PM
- - TheCritics   I disagree that he's in the drivers seat with ...   Mar 10 2014, 01:39 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 10 2014, 02:34 PM) ...   Mar 12 2014, 01:57 PM
- - AZWildCat   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 12 2014, 01:57 PM) M...   Mar 12 2014, 02:38 PM


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