QUOTE(Milk Dud @ Aug 15 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]354157[/snapback]
I dont understand why Ben needs to make up with someone who sounds like he fucked him over repeatedly
Because Boxingtalk is less of a site without this board and this board is less than it could be without the more heavily trafficked B-talk bringing in new posters.
I'm an outsider in that I've never met anyone on this board other than just chatting about boxing online, but my sense is that most of the best posters here are loyal to Ben and would only go back to a B-talk board if Ben went as well. So in that sense, Ben has a strong hand because I think it's clear that this is the best boxing board on the web with the most knowledgable, articulate posters. That said, I'm not at all sure that fighthype.com is growing fast enough to bring in new blood to this board. (I could be wrong about that, as I have no idea what the traffic is here.) And if he can't start drawing new blood to the board, the board will, in all liklihood, begin to decline.
At the same time, Boxingtalk is clearly the best boxing site on the web, as it gets the top named fighters on a daily basis, and the brand is established and strong. But as strong as it is, the heart and soul of B-talk, for me, was always this board. More than anything, this board seperated Boxingtalk from every other site because here you get the feeling that you're chatting with, for the most part, smart guys who are passionate about the sport. And I do think that the B-talk membership will decline without this board, as this board gives the site some credibility and some interesting insights that wouldn't be prudent for Greg to print on the front page.
The last thing in the world I want to do is offend Hype by implying that his site is second rate because I think it's really great given the amount of time it's been up and I appreciate all his effort in keeping this board alive. But that said, it does kind of feel like there are less posters these days and less random traffic, which, of course, is to be expected.
I know that the subject of the split is a sore one and I wouldn't have brought it up if I hadn't wanted to link the RJJ interview. I just think that it's a real shame that the best board on the web is separated from the best site on the web and vice versa, as both the board and the site benefit substantially from the other. That's all I'm sayin'.
The only people who really know what happened are Ben and Greg, both of whom are obviously proud and strong willed. From what I've seen of Greg, it's easy for me to imagine that he could be a difficult guy to work for/with and that his ego could have gotten a little out of whack with the success of the site. And from what I know about Ben, he ain't no shrinking violet either. And given my impressions of these personalities, it's easy for me to imagine situations where things could get out of hand in a hurry and egos complicated things. I like to think that the reason that Greg hasn't put a new board up is because he still considers a reconciliation possible. I could be wrong. Worse yet, it could be that Greg really does think we're all monkeys and that he has no intention of putting another board up. If that's the case, then that's really stupid on his part.
Anyway, it doesn't look like there will be any kind of reconciliation, and so there's no reason to continue talking about it.
And once again, Hype, I'm personally grateful to you for your effort in keeping this board alive. Thank you.