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Big Slim Sweet
I just tried to buy tickets on ticketmaster. They supposedly went on sale at noon here in Chicago. I started clicking the event around 11:55 and it said tickets were not on sale yet. At noon it let me in, and already there were no tickets available. I was on the phone with my friend the whole time who was trying to do the same and the same thing for him, nothing. Just called ticketmaster and was told no tickets are available.

So how the fuck does this happen? How the fuck does an event sell out before it even goes on sale? I mean don't get me wrong I know the majority of tickets are already allocated before the general public gets a shot but this is fucking bullshit. In this case they were never available to the public to begin with.
hardhead
I would keep trying if I were you, the best thing to do with ticketmaster is go to a one of their places in person, that's better then phone or online.

Lil-lightsout
QUOTE(Big Slim @ Sep 17 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]357767[/snapback]
I just tried to buy tickets on ticketmaster. They supposedly went on sale at noon here in Chicago. I started clicking the event around 11:55 and it said tickets were not on sale yet. At noon it let me in, and already there were no tickets available. I was on the phone with my friend the whole time who was trying to do the same and the same thing for him, nothing. Just called ticketmaster and was told no tickets are available.

So how the fuck does this happen? How the fuck does an event sell out before it even goes on sale? I mean don't get me wrong I know the majority of tickets are already allocated before the general public gets a shot but this is fucking bullshit. In this case they were never available to the public to begin with.

Sorry to hear that man, it is a shame they did not find a different location that could accomodate way more fans to see this fight. The fight sold out in minutes, just think of the 1000's of fans that also got screwed over that wanted to see this fight. Just try and enjoy the PPV telecast that night.
WindyCityP
here ya go crazy.gif

Tickets

BrutalBodyShots
The Brits probably snatched em all up!

STEVENSKI
QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Sep 17 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]357777[/snapback]
The Brits probably snatched em all up!


Well it sure would not have been PBF's fans as he does not have enough to fill the cardboard carton he will eventually live in.
gods son
they probably sold like 50% of the seats to Companies or some shyt!
X3_Bazooka_X3
Of course the tickets are sold out, Hatton has a huge following only a loud mouth like Floyd wished he had, look let me put it to you this way, Hatton talking about Floyd after his fight with Castillo is not what made Floyd take the fight, it was the 10 thousand plus british fans that showed up that made Floyd want to take the fight, its a big money fight, and being that Floyd has a hard time selling his own name why not use up the big names out there to make your money? its the only way Floyd will ever see DLH like Cash.
Southeastpaw
The Mayweather hate kills me. Honestly guys, do you all think it was only Oscar that drew in the highest grossing fight in the history of the sport? He should not get all the credit. And now Hatton? Sellin out the gate before the tics even go on sale to the public. Let's get real guys. Sure, Floyd is irritating. But he is the #1 P4P fighter in the sport that has had high profile fights with fighters like Gatti and DLH. Now people know him. They will buy the tickets and the PPVs to see him get KOed if they hate him or they will do the same if they love him, and even still people will buy it because it is a fight between two undefeated fighters, one of which is the undisputed #1 P4P fighter in the world. See, this is why Roy did not get the love Mayweather is getting. He did not have mass attracting dance partners. And one of the reasons this fight is going to receive HUGE PPV numbers when it comes fight time is the fact that Floyd is on prime time. Love him or hate him, which the latter seems to be the more preferred, he is going to make dollars from here on in.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE(Fitz @ Sep 18 2007, 03:55 AM) [snapback]357797[/snapback]
Come on man, straight after Gatti, he fights Mitchell and couldn't even sell that out, lol.

Yes, it was basically all Oscar. Oscar promoted the fight perfectly and 24/7 I think contributed mostly to it, and I will say this. It wasn't Mayweather's idea.


100% agreed! PBF can't sell his crack for free.
BigG
Floyd might not have a big fan base, but the dude makes alot of money. More money then most.
Trumpton
The Brits were given 3,500 tickets. The vast majority went to high-rollers in the casinos, with no interest in the fight at all. Great way to repay the 10,000 Brits that came over for the Castillo fight. cray.gif
buford54
Floyd needs some credit. True, Oscar would have sold out even if he was fighting a rematch with Yori Boy Campas...but he wouldn't have had the highest grossing ppv in history.
It's true, Floyd wouldn't sell out my basement if he was fighting Yori Boy....so he fights the big name guys and plays the bad guy.
To his credit, he's not ducking anyone...he's fighting the guys with the fans. The sad part is we'll never see him fight a Paul Williams (who I think could beat Floyd), because there's no fans for him to sucker in with his trash talk.

Pretty much, 90% of the fans that are paying to see these fights (live or ppv) are people hoping to see their guy beat Floyd.
This is no different.
Personally, I hope Ricky can do it...big time. I respect the hell out of him for leaving his cushy setup in England, where he had a guaranteed sell out no matter who he fought. He came to the US for probably much smaller paydays and has fought 2 tough customers...arguably losing one fight, but impressively beating Castillo. He's earned his respect, unlike a Calzaghe, who has fought 1 big name and thinks that the world owes him.
Southeastpaw
QUOTE(Fitz @ Sep 17 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]357797[/snapback]
Come on man, straight after Gatti, he fights Mitchell and couldn't even sell that out, lol.

Yes, it was basically all Oscar. Oscar promoted the fight perfectly and 24/7 I think contributed mostly to it, and I will say this. It wasn't Mayweather's idea.

True, it was not Mayweather's idea, but if Oscar would have put a 24/7 for him fighting Luis Collazo, do you think that it still would have ended up the highest grossing fight in history?

I know that Oscar is the draw and promoted the hell outta it. But Floyd is known now. Much more known than Hatton is. He's been on cribs, he's going to be on Dancing with the Stars, he has fought some power drawing names. Hatton is well known to the boxing world and the UK. But Floyd is much more recognized. I'm not saying he is loved, he is recognized and seen as the best boxer in the world.
Maxy
According to Sky sports the other day, 31,000 Brits applied for tickets to see this fight. Floyd may well be the best boxer in the world but there were not 31,000 Floyd fans wanting tickets.

At the end of the day the venue is too small.
Big Slim Sweet
I can't stand lil' bitch ass Floyd myself, but I don't think he's nearly as unpopular or unknown as most people here would like to think. Of course the fight with Oscar sold like crazy because of Oscar, but come on, when is that not the case? I believe that with that victory, Floyd has become - for the celebrities & rappers crowd, for the gamblers & gangsters crowd - THE fighter to come out and see. I think his fights in Vegas will be huge from here on out, and I also think his participation on 'Dancing with the Dorks' or whatever it's called, is going to be help the PPV sales for this upcoming fight with Hatton. When all is said and done I don't believe for a minute that Hatton is the only one selling this fight.

If anything, I blame GBP for tickets not being made available to the general public in America. They're the promoters, they're the greedy bastards who don't give a fuck about their audience. They're the ones who only allocated 1/5 of the tickets to the die-hard Brittish fans, and almost certainly dished out the rest to corporate big wigs and other less-reputable millionaires whose presence at the event pads their pockets just a little bit more for the short term. Fuck them.
Milk Dud
5000 went to MGM

7800 went to Hatton and Mayweather split evenly so 3900 a piece

2000 went to Golden Tool

14800 already gone

I think for a boxing set up it holds roughly 16500 maybe 17000 so doing the math 1700-2200 seats were available

yep this was for the fans alright
Big Slim Sweet
QUOTE(Milk Dud @ Sep 18 2007, 11:31 AM) [snapback]357817[/snapback]
5000 went to MGM

7800 went to Hatton and Mayweather split evenly so 3900 a piece

2000 went to Golden Tool

14800 already gone

I think for a boxing set up it holds roughly 16500 maybe 17000 so doing the math 1700-2200 seats were available

yep this was for the fans alright

Thing is, less than 30 seconds after the tickets went on 'sale' they were gone. I don't care how high the demand was, there's no fucking way 2000 tickets are getting sold in under 30 seconds. There were none available to the general public.
Southeastpaw
QUOTE
I get them because I like boxing and then the hoping Mayweather get's knocked out comes 2nd


LOL

I actually purchased the Barrera/Hamed fight strictly hoping to see Hamed go night night. Sadly it was Hamed that got my money rather than Barrera. Don't get me wrong, I liked Barrera, but there are some fights of his I would not pay for.
Lil-lightsout
QUOTE(Milk Dud @ Sep 18 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]357817[/snapback]
5000 went to MGM

7800 went to Hatton and Mayweather split evenly so 3900 a piece

2000 went to Golden Tool

14800 already gone

I think for a boxing set up it holds roughly 16500 maybe 17000 so doing the math 1700-2200 seats were available

yep this was for the fans alright

WOW! That is some crazy info there. I honestly did not know that is how the system works. Really sucks for the TRUE fans.
xxxxxx
QUOTE(Fitz @ Sep 18 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]357828[/snapback]
After all that said, I would like nothing more to see Mayweather lying there motionless and being stretchered off. But unfortunately he is the best fighter in the world for a reason and will most likely pot shot Hatton to a one sided decision than beat him into submission.



I believe Mayweather Will stop Ricky in this fight, probably around 10-12.I also believe Mayweather was about to stop Judah before Judah hit him below the belt and on the back of the head ruining Mayweathers momentum he was building up.I get sick of people knocking PBF for his boxing style.Yall must of forgot that this man is a boxer/puncher depending on his opponent.Why the hell would he stand toe to toe for 12 rounds with Oscar when Oscar is a bigger puncher and a bigger man than Floyd? People say he showed lack of heart with Baldomir and Oscar, but it's not lack of heart, it's smarts.If mayweather is fighting a stronger fighter he boxes, if he is fighting a guy that he can take the punches well he will trade.It's that simple.The man don't want to end up like Ali, why hate on him for that.
The CEO
I'm sorry some of you might not be able to get some tickets, but here's the bottom line...

Floyd's gonna make an example out of Hatton....he'll be at the pinnacle of his notoriety, and Hatton is an ideal opponent for him showcase all his skills....

He's gonna outleague and torture Hatton to the point where Hatton gains fans out of sympathy.
BrutalBodyShots
Mayweather will toy with Hatton.

Tha Docta
QUOTE(xxxxxx @ Sep 18 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]357835[/snapback]
I believe Mayweather Will stop Ricky in this fight, probably around 10-12.I also believe Mayweather was about to stop Judah before Judah hit him below the belt and on the back of the head ruining Mayweathers momentum he was building up.I get sick of people knocking PBF for his boxing style.Yall must of forgot that this man is a boxer/puncher depending on his opponent.Why the hell would he stand toe to toe for 12 rounds with Oscar when Oscar is a bigger puncher and a bigger man than Floyd? People say he showed lack of heart with Baldomir and Oscar, but it's not lack of heart, it's smarts.If mayweather is fighting a stronger fighter he boxes, if he is fighting a guy that he can take the punches well he will trade.It's that simple.The man don't want to end up like Ali, why hate on him for that.



i dont have a problem with the way the man fights, i have a problem with him constantly lying to the public about how he is going to fight. everyone knows hes going to fight a safety first fight, but yet he says how he is going to punish people and knock them out when he has no intentions of doing so. its just getting a little old. i dont think his brittle hands can hold up enough for him to stop hatton.
Southeastpaw
I know one thing for sure. Floyd is going to have some improved, dynamic footwork for this bout. wink.gif
singletrack
QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Sep 18 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]357858[/snapback]
I'm sorry some of you might not be able to get some tickets, but here's the bottom line...

Floyd's gonna make an example out of Hatton....he'll be at the pinnacle of his notoriety, and Hatton is an ideal opponent for him showcase all his skills....

He's gonna outleague and torture Hatton to the point where Hatton gains fans out of sympathy.



QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Sep 19 2007, 12:48 AM) [snapback]357884[/snapback]
Mayweather will toy with Hatton.


I think this fight gets stopped because Hatton can't see out of one or both eyes. Cuts are also a possibility. Honestly, if he can go the distance with Floyd, then I will be very impressed.
Big Slim Sweet
I actually think Hatton's going to give Floyd a much tougher fight than most people are expecting.
BrutalBodyShots
Floyd hasn't had any significant problems with his hands recently has he? I see no reason to believe that his hands will be a factor in the fight. I agree with those that think Mayweather may stop Hatton on cuts and/or swelling.

Lil-lightsout
QUOTE(Big Slim @ Sep 19 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]357927[/snapback]
I actually think Hatton's going to give Floyd a much tougher fight than most people are expecting.

After seeing Hatton struggle with Collazo, I see Floyd toying with Ricky and giving him a beatdown. There also needs to be a good ref in there to make sure Hatton does not get away with his wrestling tactics.
STEVENSKI
I don't get PBF PPV's specifically because I know he gets a cut of the action. I watch it at the pub for free just so he does not get my money.

I read that Hatton got 4 or 6 million quid for the UK tv rights & that is before a cut of the PPV. Regardless of if Hatton wins or loses he is gonna be rollin in the cabbage even more so. I don't know how much ahtton is getting paid I would assume a 60/40 split because PBF is the chump but that combined with his PPV revenue & TV rights will make him a shitload.
BrutalBodyShots
Most of the local bars around here that used to show the PPVs for free or a $5 cover no longer do after being busted a few times. Kind of sucks having to fork over $50 these days. A few years back before all the digital stuff it was easy to spend $50 on a black box and you could watch the PPV's for free. From about 2002-2004 I watched just about every PPV for free but have been paying since then which sucks. Even if you get 4 or 5 of your friends to come over and split the cost it still isn't as good as free =)

xxxxxx
QUOTE(Fitz @ Sep 18 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]357873[/snapback]
Oscar I can see why he would choose to fight like that, Baldomir? That's a different story. There is no excuse as to why he put on that shit on that night. None what so ever. Baldomir was a fucking joke and to run around and fight him on your backfoot throwing a punch at a time was not necessary against a fight of Baldomir's caliber. Even Tiger Woods had enough. Baldomir was so damn slow and was no threat what so ever, that I see absolutely no reason why he couldn't have been just as half as aggressive as he was against Gatti.



Listen Fitz, I repect your opinion.I understand you like boxing and know the sport well, but has it ever occurred to you that maybe the Baldomir fight was a tuneup to get the Oscar fight and PBF was not going to take any injury risks or gambles of Baldomir landing that one lucky shot?Maybe he really did hurt his hand like he said, it does happen to boxers.If you watch that fight again you will realize that the first 3 or 4 rounds Mayweather was beating Baldomir up, but then let off and played it safe by countering and peppering him all night.Have you watched any other Mayweather fights?The Corley fight was exciting, as was the Chico(r.i.p.) and Gatti's fights. I also enjoyed the Judah fight until Judah hit him with the cheap shots.Maybe Mayweather realized he could not hurt Baldomir and played it safe for the Oscar fight.Forrest or Clottey couldn't knock Baldi out and their bigger than Floyd.Just a couple of thoughts here.
The CEO
Speaking of big heads...I can't wait to hear all the pops and thuds on Hatton's fat nugget....
STEVENSKI
QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Sep 20 2007, 12:37 AM) [snapback]358045[/snapback]
Speaking of big heads...I can't wait to hear all the pops and thuds on Hatton's fat nugget....



laugh.gif .
Southeastpaw
I really think that Baldi is getting very little credit for his power. He is a bulldog that had Judah hurt and also destroyed Gatti. Why would Floyd risk getting hit from a guy that gets hit with everything including the kitchen sink and keeps coming forward? Baldy has shown that he is a very tough guy. I knew before hand that Floyd would be uncomfortable in there. Floyd did what he had to to win. The Floyd haters are just so huge that they take his unfavorable performances and bash him for them. We all know that Floyd plays it safe. No surprise. He is masterful at his art and does what he has to to remain on top. You really think he is going to risk legacy because he is afraid of the haters? I doubt it. I could care less about what a dick or how irritating Floyd is outside the ring, but I do recognize the gifts and skillz he possesses inside the ropes. He is a clean fighter, unlike a guy that I cannot fucking stand to watch in the ring like a Hatton or Ruiz. But many care too much about how a fighter is outside the ring which effects their view of them inside the ring. Floyd is what he is. He is not a brawler, so when he steps into the ring with a brawler with a great chin understand what you are about to witness. Sense comes to mind when a fighter who is not a powerful puncher, even at his natural weight, has fragile hands, and does not want to go toe to toe with a hardheaded brawler. People get things twisted at times, they believe that heart is letting it all hang out while leaving yourself exposed. Not necessarily. Heart can equate to dumb all to often. Floyd has shown heart in different ways. He has been hurt and congtinued to dominate and he has fought through broken hands. He also gave Castillo an immediate rematch because he wanted to make it clear who the better fighter was.

I am not the biggest Floyd fan, I just think he gets too bad a rap for what he does and who he is. It's not like he is on the corner kicking people in the head playin dice. Comon guys. While he has been in some snoozers, not unlike just about every other fighter, he has also had some very entertaining wins over some great fighters.
Southeastpaw
Holy shit that was a long post.
Southeastpaw
QUOTE(Fitz @ Sep 19 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]358073[/snapback]
Having Judah hurt shouldn't be a compliment IMO and destroying Gatti? Didn't a guy that didn't even win the contender do that as well? laugh.gif


Not bad for a guy with no power, huh.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE(Southeastpaw @ Sep 20 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]358058[/snapback]
He is a clean fighter, unlike a guy that I cannot fucking stand to watch in the ring like a Hatton or Ruiz.


You lost me right there. PBF is as dirty as a meth heads cooch with his blatant leaning & use of his forearms & elbows to the back of the head. Much like Ali he never seems to get called for it when in reality there have been numerous occasions where he should have lost points & even been DQ'd.

A headbutt is dirty & so is the shit Floyds pulls in every fight.

Just to let you know clinching is legal in the ring, using your forearms & elbows to the back of the head/neck is not.
BigG
Hatton is dirtier then Floyd. Floyd just kinda sticks his elbow out there and kind of pushes you off (cuz of his defensive style). He doesn't really hurt you or do damage with his elbow.
Southeastpaw
LOL @ you all supporting Hatton's style and bashing Floyd's. Never thought I'd see the day. laugh.gif

If you are gunna defend Hatton's style, so be it. It is your taste if you think that Mayweather is dirtier than Hatton. But I totally disagree. I have not seen Mayweather pop someone in head with an elbow nor have I seen him crack someone in the back of the head. And I have seen all of his fights since Tony Pep. He has used his elbows before for creating space and has been warned on more than one occasion for it. Now, clinching is allowed, but one can and should be disqualified for doing it excessively which I think we all know Hatton is very capable of doing. But if you would rather support a Ruiz type fighter over a Mayweather type fighter, that is your thing.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE(Fitz @ Sep 20 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]358135[/snapback]
I know it wasn't illegal, but it was morally wrong and dirty when there was a break in the Gatti fight and he went and cracked him when he wasn't looking and scored a knockdown.


Morals in boxing? C'mon Fitz. It was bad form what PBF did but it was legal & there is the rule to protect yourself at all times. I cannot believe I would defend a woman beater who I despise but there you go.
BrutalBodyShots
Totally off topic here... when was the last time you guys can recall someone being DQd for excessive holding?

You've got to figure if Ruiz never was it doesn't happen often =)

STEVENSKI
QUOTE(Fitz @ Sep 21 2007, 01:59 AM) [snapback]358179[/snapback]
Yeah, I know, I mentioned what Mayweather did wasn't illegal. Gatti should know as well that you must protect yourselves at all times, but it was still a dirty move and unsportsman like IMO. He was talking to the referee. Not illegal though.


yeah not dirty tactics just a dirty human being.
singletrack
QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Sep 20 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]358146[/snapback]
Totally off topic here... when was the last time you guys can recall someone being DQd for excessive holding?

You've got to figure if Ruiz never was it doesn't happen often =)


Ruiz!? What about Jermaine Taylor?! ; )
singletrack
QUOTE(Southeastpaw @ Sep 19 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]358074[/snapback]
Not bad for a guy with no power, huh.


I don't think Mayweather has big power in the traditional sense of the word. Let's face facts on Gatti - 1. Gatti was past his prime 2. Buddy McGirt trying to have Gatti box with Floyd might be the worst game plan in the history of boxing. With regard to Judah, I also believe he was going to take him out, or at least put him down. He may have received a stoppage if he overwhelmed Judah with punches after a knockdown. Either way, we'll never know.

All that being said, Floyd has power. He rocked DLH a couple of times on counters that were so fast you had to watch the replay to even see them. In addition, massive accumulation of punches = power.

I would be surprised if Floyd destroyed Hatton as badly as Gatti, but I suppose it is possible. Of course, Hatton isn't dumb enough to change his entire style in the biggest fight of his career ; ) I think Gatti would have lost either way, but he certainly had a better chance with PBF if he had brawled instead of boxing.
Tha Docta
QUOTE(singletrack @ Sep 21 2007, 12:52 AM) [snapback]358199[/snapback]
I don't think Mayweather has big power in the traditional sense of the word. Let's face facts on Gatti - 1. Gatti was past his prime 2. Buddy McGirt trying to have Gatti box with Floyd might be the worst game plan in the history of boxing. With regard to Judah, I also believe he was going to take him out, or at least put him down. He may have received a stoppage if he overwhelmed Judah with punches after a knockdown. Either way, we'll never know.

All that being said, Floyd has power. He rocked DLH a couple of times on counters that were so fast you had to watch the replay to even see them. In addition, massive accumulation of punches = power.

I would be surprised if Floyd destroyed Hatton as badly as Gatti, but I suppose it is possible. Of course, Hatton isn't dumb enough to change his entire style in the biggest fight of his career ; ) I think Gatti would have lost either way, but he certainly had a better chance with PBF if he had brawled instead of boxing.



any version of gatti wouldnt have stood a chance against mayweather. he was knocked out by angel manfredy and had to nearly fight to the death against micky ward. gatti was a mediocre fighter at best.

and for the judah fight, i dont think zab was going to get KO'd. and the fight would have been a little different had the ref not missed the knockdown earlier in the fight. floyd has minimal power at 147. but anyway, will power even be a factor? doesnt vegas require the largers gloves for 147lbers now?
BrutalBodyShots
Gatti was never a great or even a very good fighter in his prime... what he did have in his prime was amazing resiliency which I define as the ability to recover quickly and give back as good as he got. Gatti's resiliency started to diminish around the Ward fights, but based on his level of competition (Ward, Branco, Dorin, etc) he was able to get by. Against Mayweather it wasn't there and really wouldn't have mattered much anyway, other than possibly keeping Gatti in the fight a little longer to take a beating.
Big Slim Sweet
QUOTE(Fitz @ Sep 20 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]358135[/snapback]
Hatton doesn't hurt people by hugging them either.

No but he did hurt Tszyu pretty badly when he cracked him in the balls. Agree with your point otherwise though. Mayweather employs dirty tactics and never seems to get called on it.

QUOTE(BrutalBodyShots @ Sep 20 2007, 05:56 PM) [snapback]358146[/snapback]
Totally off topic here... when was the last time you guys can recall someone being DQd for excessive holding?

Only one that comes to mind is Henry Akinwade when he fought Lennox in '97.
BrutalBodyShots
QUOTE(Big Slim @ Sep 21 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]358255[/snapback]
Only one that comes to mind is Henry Akinwade when he fought Lennox in '97.


Good call. Anyone have anything inside those last 10 years?

singletrack
QUOTE(Tha Docta @ Sep 21 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]358247[/snapback]
any version of gatti wouldnt have stood a chance against mayweather. he was knocked out by angel manfredy and had to nearly fight to the death against micky ward. gatti was a mediocre fighter at best.


I agree, but boxing Floyd decreased his chances even further. I mean brawling with him might (big might*) have allowed him to go the distance. Standing on the outside and boxing led to a total massacre. It was like Buddy McGirt walked out with a covered silver dish, dramatically unveiling that Gatti was inside to be devoured by Floyd.

QUOTE
and for the judah fight, i dont think zab was going to get KO'd. and the fight would have been a little different had the ref not missed the knockdown earlier in the fight. floyd has minimal power at 147. but anyway, will power even be a factor? doesnt vegas require the largers gloves for 147lbers now?


Like I said, we will never now. That is a good point about the knockdown, but Floyd was still pulling away IMHO. Yup on the bigger gloves as well - 10ounce vs. New York were they use 8 oz. But I don't think that will make a difference because of the volume of punches Floyd will land. Anyone know what Collazo and Hatton wore in Mass - 8 or 10 ounce gloves?
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