"bitchassness"

Why is Hatton on this list?

I ask cause I'm assuming you're ranting over the news of Kessler pulling out of his fight with Miranda, a trend we sometimes see with European fighters, but I can't recall Hatton ever doing that. Hatton came to the U.S., fought the best and took his ass-kicking like a man. Unless I'm missing something...

From Calzaghe, Hatton, Abraham and now Kessler. What the fuck is up the trend of bitchassness from these boxers in Europe. These muthafuckers should have picked a different profession.
OK rant over...........discuss

He won't fight Witter.

I don't think he scared of Witter... Witter's been dissing him in the media and THE BEST way to get back at Witter--- even better than knocking his ass out... is to not give him a pay day.

You think Witter is going to make any money off of anyone not named Hatton?

Have you seen any of Witter's fights televised in the states??

Did you watch Witter run from Zab Judah??

Define what you mean by "bitchassness"?

I just don't see how any of the guys above can be considered bitches... Is it because Kessler pulled out of the fight? There are 2 sides to the story.

Look these guys are fighter and fighters fight fuck all the other bullshit. It's not like Hatton is not going to make money off of the fight and Mayweather clowning him all over 24/7 didn't cause him to back out of the fight because he didn't want to put money in his pocket.<--------lame excuse. Leave the fucking political maneuvering to the politicians fighters fight, Period. I wouldn't say he is scared of Witter but the way he has handled the situation reek of feminine bitchassness.

Kessler has fought Siaca, Mundine, Lucas, Andrade and Calzaghe. Plus he fought Mundine in Australia and fought Calzaghe in Wales. I doubt he is scared of Miranda.

Hatton went head to head with the best fighter in the world, in his backyard. Again, I doubt he is scared of Witter.

The only one you have an argument against is Abraham. Ever since the guy fought Miranda he has fought a bunch of no hopers.

Abraham only fights weak opposition and doesn't fight outside Germany. The one time he fought a live dog in there he got his fucking Jaw broken and yet we still haven't heard about a possible rematch with Miranda. These moves = Bitchass IMO

Calzaghe fucking waits untill B-Hop is 40+ before feeling froggy and coming over here and making the fight happen. Calfaggy wanted no part of him or RJJ when they where in their primes and all of a sudden this mutherfucker cares about his legacy. This alone = Bitchass IMO

Hatton-see above

Kessler-the straw that broke the camels back with me. I will for ever look at Eurotrash fighters in a negative light untill they can prove otherwise.

Dude, this isn't BloodSport, they aren't fighting in the Kumite....

Hatton sells out stadiums in England..... HE NEVER had to come to the states... Do you know what a live gate of over 25,000 people is like????

Lame excuse???... Everyone knows that people call out Oscar, Manny, Ricky BECAUSE they will get paid.

BTW, what do you think of Kimbo now that he doesn't do backyard brawling anymore?? Is he a bitch?... You know why he doesn't do that anymore right? Because now he is getting PAID. You don't see him turning down big money so he can have "Street CRED" so you can say he's HARD---

But they are better skilled and definetly have better chins than Miranda. The point was that you said he is a bitch for turning down this fight when actually he has fought very good opposition.

Abraham sells out stadiums in Germany.

LOL... You know B-Hop fought Oscar and Trinidad right??? Dude, these guys are WELTERWEIGHTS.

I'm sorry, but your posts are ignorant and basically garbage.

I take it you like Miranda?? I won a $hit load of money on Pavlik knowing that Miranda went tooth and nail with Eastman.

Watch the Abraham fight again too, it's not a one sided beatdown like you are claiming......

There is difference between fighting someone who will more than likely beat you on points than fighting some that if they beat you is going knock you into next tuesday. The way he handled the situation from the beginning brings up red flaggs about his heart.

LOL, so because he won't fight Miranda he is a pussy?

Abraham sells out stadiums in Germany.

LOL... You know B-Hop fought Oscar and Trinidad right??? Dude, these guys are WELTERWEIGHTS.

I'm sorry, but your posts are ignorant and basically garbage.

I take it you like Miranda?? I won a $hit load of money on Pavlik knowing that Miranda went tooth and nail with Eastman.

Watch the Abraham fight again too, it's not a one sided beatdown like you are claiming......

I said it from the beginning its not that he didn't fight Miranda that makes him a pussy. It's the way he handled the situation. I could understand if he had a more attractive fight on the table, but what does he have right now?
Exactly, he bitched out of the fight. End of story

The man has fought Siaca, Mundine, Lucas, Beyer,Andrade and Calzaghe but because he won't fight Miranda, who is not even in the top 10 at supermiddleweight he is a bitch? You must have pretty high standards in order to classify someone a man, like being a puncher, LOL.

Look I'd like to see him fight Miranda too and if he doesn't and fights a lesser fighter would suck. But to say that he is not a man because he won't fight Miranda is a bit far-fetched.

Those where big money fights for B-Hop. I'm not saying that a fighter can't go for the money but he has to take the meaningfull as well in order get respect, or at least my respect anyway. B-Hop has taken on all comer when he was MW Champ and was calling Cal and Roy the whole time so your point is moot, Homey you are just trying to justify the unjustifiable.
And for the record I don't even follow Miranda like that. In fact this is the first time that I have posted anything about him on this Message board and I have been on here almost a year. The bottom line is this Kessler went out like a bitch.
Oh. I never said that it was one sided beatdown but the fact that winner of the fight left the fight more fucked then the loser warants an immediate rematch IMHO. But yet we wait.

I didn't say he is not man I said he went out like bitch and his heart pumps kool-aid. Thats all. I mean he pulled out of a fight with a guy that was basically throwing him under the bus before any negotiations. I'm sorry, but that whole situation doesn't look right. Unless he has family member die on him or he got injured and doesn't want to tell anybody he exibited some grade "A" bitchassness.

So is he a man or is he a bitch?

LOL... It's like what I say to my wife sometimes "I didn't call you a bitch, I meant you were ACTING like a bitch" Big difference huh...

In order to get respect from who??? You---a guy that has a fantasy league??? There is a business side to boxing HOMEY....

I'm not hating on B-Hop. The guys is 1st ballot HOF. But below are the FACTS.

After he fought a blown up Trinidad.

Daniels
Hakkar
Joppy
Allen

Not exactly a murderers row.

One last thing-- what point of mine was moot?? What are your referencing??

It looks like a bitch ass move on Kessler's part but I have to wait and hear what he has to say about the situation!

The fact that while he was fight Blown up Welters. He was trying to get big money and meaningfull fights with Roy and Faggy. It's not his fault that neither one of them wanted to fight him at that time. And as far as the list you put up. Who else was there at MW at that time. [Katt Williams voice] I'll wait [Katt Williams voice]

Hop fought at 160 and Joe fought at 168. Just so you know..... If you don't think B-Hop was equally to blame for the fight not coming off with Roy than you must have not followed the whole story.

Taking on all comers??? I didn't know Moradde Hakkar was a comer.

So what. Look don't talk to me like I'm some rookie to this shit. An eight pound jump would have been nothing for Hop so again your point is moot.

With Roy it was nothing more than a money issue thats why I don't harp on it. But Zag was in wales fighting Tomato Cans for like fifteen years. Fuck out here with that bullshit.

You are a moron. Plain and simple, I've read your posts and responded-- but seriously it's pointless because of all of the garbage that you reply back with..... unsubstantiated without fact.
If you don't like my opinion, I could give 2 shits.

I get that you have an opinion too, but stop acting like a douchebag.

And more than likely, I am responding back to a 15 year old with ADHD.....

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Your momma's moron muthafucka. lets leave it right there because by the way you are responding to these posts you are exibiting some bitchmade tendencies. And if you where here I would say it to your face so don't get it twisted.

Hop fought at 160 and Joe fought at 168. Just so you know..... If you don't think B-Hop was equally to blame for the fight not coming off with Roy than you must have not followed the whole story.

Taking on all comers??? I didn't know Moradde Hakkar was a comer.

LOL... Real tough you keyboard gangster....I'm not leaving it right there bitch... So-what?? You're going to respond back to this with another your momma's a moron muthafucka??? LOL

So what now?? Say it to your face in your grandma's basement??

You are really embarassing!!

Kessler would make miranda look like a piece of garbage. Miranda is not the next big thing at super middle. Who gives a fuck if he doesnt fight him

Why is it that everytime the internet faggots get their cards pulled they accuse somebody of being a "gangsta". That shit is so funny to me. It's like fucking clockwork.
You would be the defending actions of a lame. You have shown me everything I want to know about you, and I wash my hands of your kind. The bitchassness is contageous.

I'm confused. How does B-hop have anything to do with your points about Kessler? In his 40's he fought/fighting...

Taylor 2X
Tarver
Wink
Calzaghe

Why didn't you point this out? I know why, cause it doesn't support your weak, irrelevant argument. Why are you even comparing, as you put it, a first ballot hall of famer with a guy who got called out, reluctantly signed, was given every concession for the fight, and still pulled out without a reason? I'm not going to say one way or the other if he's a bitch, put you bringin up B Hop was fuckin retarded to say the least bro.....

Come on Fellaz! This is a forum and this is a great place to debate but you guys are taking it too far!
Let's keep talking Boxing not about Gangsters and Keyboard Gangsters

witter is european.

also, calzaghe did call out b-hop. but i guess b-hop was being a "bitch" because he wanted his 20 defenses at middleweight.

and don't forget, lots of people were questioning hopkins (pre-tarver) that he wasn't that great because he hadn't moved up to challenge bigger guys and was fighting a lot of naturally smaller guys. then he proved people wrong. so you never know.

Come on Fellaz! This is a forum and this is a great place to debate but you guys are taking it too far!
Let's keep talking Boxing not about Gangsters and Keyboard Gangsters

Last update: 02-12-2008 Read more by Mark Vester

Bernard Hopkins: "The British are Arrogant"

By Mark Vester

In a recent interview with The Guardian , recognized light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins held nothing back when talking about his April 19 showdown with WBA/WBO/WBC super middleweight champ Joe Calzaghe in Las Vegas. He also voiced his opinion on the British fans in general.

Hopkins says that when he confronted Calzaghe last December in Las Vegas, and telling the Welsh fighter that he would never "lose to a white boy," Calzaghe's face began to fill with fear. Last week, it was Calzaghe who claimed that Hopkins was the fighter with fear in his eyes.

"I looked him right in his face and said, 'I ain't ever gonna lose to a white boy,'" Hopkins said. "He looked petrified. Scared. Shocked. Uncomfortable. This is what I read in his eyes and his demeanour. Ninety-nine per cent of eye contact gives you a feel for the person you're facing. The first reaction is everything. And even though he will fight it, there is fear inside him - not of me but fear of defeat. A guy that never lost fears losing. But I have nothing to lose. I go into that ring fighting like I fought from day one when I came out of the penitentiary."

"He now has to train on emotion, to show that this white guy can beat me. That statement was important because he understands that I walk a dangerous line. It's dangerous because writers can twist it anyhow they want to. But isn't this, strangely enough, what Bernard needs to do to keep himself focused?"

Hopkins then spoke about the rivalry between Americans and Brits, and plans to use that rivalry to his advantage. He also notes that British fighters are known for getting exposed on the highest level and that is their ultimate downfall in the sport.

"You gotta understand that this thing now is also going to become a little ugly as we go on this press tour. A good percentage of Brits don't like Americans. In some ways we think we're better than them. In a lot of ways they think they're better than us," Hopkins said.

"This goes back in time with the Brits. They're very arrogant. They got this disposition about themselves. I'm going to bring out the worst in them because I'm going to need that - to fuel the fire. That's also promotional thinking, making this fight as huge as it possibly can be. But I'm not creating a false impression. They've already booed the national anthem [before Hatton fought Mayweather]. And the Brit fighter has always been known for being exposed at the highest level. That's their biggest downfall."

In a near evil tone, Hopkins presented his gameplan to viciously punish Calzaghe to the point where his father and trainer, Enzo, would be forced to run in the ring to stop the fight in order to prevent further punishment.

"I gotta get to the father. Punish him and take Joe to a place he never been. [Enzo] will become more of a dad on April 19. They're very close. Listen, they kiss each other on the mouth before every fight. That's love. That's blood. What man wants his son badly hurt? It's not going to be easy but they're going to see blood and busted up marks they've never seen. And, y'know, Joe takes pride in his good looks. I never took pride in that. I understand what God made me look like. This is the Executioner's resumé: take his speed, take his looks, and the father comes in to save him."

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