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Warlord
You're a funny guy. I liked you for a long time now, going back to your fantastic debut in Pride against the legendary Kazushi Sakuraba. I liked you even more after you trashed Chuck Liddell (again) in front of millions of UFC fans who don't know shit about true MMA.

Lately, though, it truly seems as if your recents success has gone to your head. I see you in interviews talking shit about Wanderlei Silva, because you think he's washed up and far from the murderer he once was when he dominated you and left you hanging from the ropes, laying face down like a ruptured, lifeless corpse. I thought you were dead when that happened. Your fans thought you were dead. Your family thought you were dead. In your unconscious state of being, it is probable that you yourself thought you were dead.

Do you remember the day? I ask you because it is possible that you've washed that day from your memory like a tragic nightmare. It was October 31st, 2004 at Pride 28. Remember it always.

When you speak of Wanderlei, do so with respect, because he was the man who disciplined you in the true art, as a father disciplines his son. When you speak so disrespectfully now, it seems as if the mouth of a jealous, bitter man has been opened, not the mouth of a warrior. If it is redemption you seek, then seek it in the ring with your father. Don't condescend to speak so negativley in the media, as if you were somehow now above the beatings you once received.

Sincerely yours,
Warlord
BigG
Silva looks so finished against Liddell. It was actually kinda sad because a prime Silva would have killed Liddell. Rampage would probably beat him now....
Warlord
QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Apr 3 2008, 03:53 AM) [snapback]384893[/snapback]
Silva looks so finished against Liddell. It was actually kinda sad because a prime Silva would have killed Liddell. Rampage would probably beat him now....

A prime Rampage barely squeaking out a win over a busted up Wanderlei Silva would be indicative of just where Quinton ranks, or does not rank, alongside a legend like Wandy. As it stands, I think Wanderlei whips Rampage again if and when they throw down for a third time. Rampage has never been a confident fighter. He definitley won't be when he's standing across the ring from the man who nearly decapitated and murdered his ass on two seperate occassions.
BigG
I agree...Wanderlei would certainly have the mental edge because he not only beat Rampage..he FUCKED HIM UP twice. But Wanderlei is way past it and in his last 2 fights, he's lost to guys Rampage recently beat.

I love Wanderlei and I'll watch anytime he fights. I just see this as a ground-n-pound win for Rampage.
Warlord
QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Apr 3 2008, 04:50 AM) [snapback]384896[/snapback]
I agree...Wanderlei would certainly have the mental edge because he not only beat Rampage..he FUCKED HIM UP twice. But Wanderlei is way past it and in his last 2 fights, he's lost to guys Rampage recently beat.

I love Wanderlei and I'll watch anytime he fights. I just see this as a ground-n-pound win for Rampage.

We'll see, hopefully. It'll be a good match no matter what the outcome. I just know that Rampage has never perfromed well against Chute Boxe fighters or Muay Thai specialists. He sucks ass in the clinch, keeping his head down and shit, ripe for the kind of knee shots that Muay Thai fighters like Wanderlei excel in.
Douchebag
QUOTE(Warlord @ Apr 3 2008, 05:58 AM) [snapback]384898[/snapback]
We'll see, hopefully. It'll be a good match no matter what the outcome. I just know that Rampage has never perfromed well against Chute Boxe fighters or Muay Thai specialists. He sucks ass in the clinch, keeping his head down and shit, ripe for the kind of knee shots that Muay Thai fighters like Wanderlei excel in.



I like how you conveniently forget to mention that a Prime Wandy was fucking juicing like a madman in Pride. I get your point but at least put everything out there. Remember when Wandy wasn't juicing and got his ass handed to him by Vitor Belfort. Don't forget to mention that kind of stuff either.
CreDog
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Apr 3 2008, 05:50 AM) [snapback]384901[/snapback]
I like how you conveniently forget to mention that a Prime Wandy was fucking juicing like a madman in Pride. I get your point but at least put everything out there. Remember when Wandy wasn't juicing and got his ass handed to him by Vitor Belfort. Don't forget to mention that kind of stuff either.



I don't agree with you often, but you are correct on the juicing in Pride. I think MOST fighters were on the juice and why not, they didn't test for it. It was a necessary evil if you wanted to be on the same playing field with every one else.


It's funny to see most guys come over and lose their muscle mass in the UFC.
Look at the bodies of Shogun, Wandy and even Rampage when they were in Pride--- completely different!


Warlord
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Apr 3 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]384901[/snapback]
I like how you conveniently forget to mention that a Prime Wandy was fucking juicing like a madman in Pride. I get your point but at least put everything out there. Remember when Wandy wasn't juicing and got his ass handed to him by Vitor Belfort. Don't forget to mention that kind of stuff either.

Pride came to Vegas and had two shows, you fucking cunt. All of their fighters were tested for roids on both occassions, including Wanderlei Silva, and NONE of them EVER tested positive.

I've brought proof to back up my argument. Until you bring some, I'd reccommend shutting the fuck up, because otherwise it's just you talking out your ass. Again.

Or maybe you want to argue that Sakuraba was juicing too when he nearly strangled Rampage to death with that RNC at Pride 15? Fucking idiot.
Douchebag
QUOTE(Warlord @ Apr 4 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]384981[/snapback]
Pride came to Vegas and had two shows, you fucking cunt. All of their fighters were tested for roids on both occassions, including Wanderlei Silva, and NONE of them EVER tested positive.

I've brought proof to back up my argument. Until you bring some, I'd reccommend shutting the fuck up, because otherwise it's just you talking out your ass. Again.

Or maybe you want to argue that Sakuraba was juicing too when he nearly strangled Rampage to death with that RNC at Pride 15? Fucking idiot.



Here you go with your typical elementary bullshit Whorelord. Do you know how easy it is to pass a piss test when you know its coming, fuckboy. Your proof is amounts to a pile of shit when the fighter can stop at local GNC and pick a 5 hour flush for 10 bucks and pass a fucking piss test. Lame ass mutherfucker I enjoy clowning your faggot ass so much because in your delusional mind you really think that you some fucking authority. Shit is so hilarious.
ElectricTwinkie
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Apr 4 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]384997[/snapback]
Your proof is amounts to a pile of shit when the fighter can stop at local GNC and pick a 5 hour flush for 10 bucks and pass a fucking piss test.


Your high school gen-chem antics may have worked for your JV boy-on-boy wrestle fest piss test, but the Las Vegas Boxing commission has more money tied up in one piece of testing equipment than you do in your car. They know what they are doing.
stateofthegame
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Apr 4 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]384997[/snapback]
Here you go with your typical elementary bullshit Whorelord. Do you know how easy it is to pass a piss test when you know its coming, fuckboy. Your proof is amounts to a pile of shit when the fighter can stop at local GNC and pick a 5 hour flush for 10 bucks and pass a fucking piss test.


I usually do not get involved in your arguments, but in this case I want to say a couple of things.

First of all the letter to Quinton had me laughing, especially the part about him thinking he was dead himself.

On the steroid deal. I am sure that there was juicing in Pride, but at the same time I wonder how much was cracked down when Mark Kerr made the Documentary. With that said and with some one saying that juice was rampant in Pride because they were not testing leads me to believe that all the names you mentioned were on the juice and if so that Silva and Rampage fought on a level playing field and Rampage still got fucked up. I would have argued Jackson's case based on stand ups because in the first fight they were stood up at times when there was no need to stand them up.

Also if you take the quote above than it makes the UFC fighters look either stupid or just arrogant that they will not get caught, because if you can easiy passa piss test if you know it is coming just by dropping 10 bucks than the number of UFC, EliteXC, Strikeforce, etc., fighters that get busted on the piss test are morons.
CreDog
QUOTE(ElectricTwinkie @ Apr 4 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]385011[/snapback]
Your high school gen-chem antics may have worked for your JV boy-on-boy wrestle fest piss test, but the Las Vegas Boxing commission has more money tied up in one piece of testing equipment than you do in your car. They know what they are doing.



Now this is a quality post... Bravo!

JD
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't masking agents considered banned substances as well?
thehype
LOL.

Who cares if Rampage is talking shit? These guys are fighters...bad blood is always bound to exist when you're dealing with guys that inflict pain.

Plus, he's the champ...he can say whatever he wants to until he loses....besides...THEY DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER...when you don't like someone, you're probably going to talk smack about them.

If you ask me, that's pretty ballsy of a guy to talk smack to another guy who fvcked him up that bad.

LOL

Seriously though, maybe Wanderlei will beat him again...I don't think so, but maybe.

I know all the smack talk certainly makes me want to see them fight again that much more.

That being said, even though he owned Quinton back in PRIDE, I think Wanderlei should probably focus more on getting a win under his belt. Fool ain't won in his last three fights. I'd much rather be the current champ and have a couple losses from back in the day, then to be on a three-fight losing streak.

LOL

Admittedly, I like 'em both, but Silva does seem to be on a bit of a downslide in his career. I really hope he can take care of business against Jardine because I'd much rather see future fights with him, Chuck and Quinton than anyone else in the light heavyweight division.
Warlord
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Apr 4 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]384997[/snapback]
Here you go with your typical elementary bullshit Whorelord. Do you know how easy it is to pass a piss test when you know its coming, fuckboy. Your proof is amounts to a pile of shit when the fighter can stop at local GNC and pick a 5 hour flush for 10 bucks and pass a fucking piss test.

What does that say, then, you fucking cunt, when UFC shitbags like Sean Sherk and Hermes Franca STILL get busted for roids. Huh? Or when Royce fucking Gracie tests positive? It tells me that the testing that goes on in Nevada is pretty damn good. And that, despite this, no Pride fighter ever tested positive for roids when fighting in an org/city that tested for it. So until you bring some goddamn proof, shut you ignorant ass up.

Besides, don't you have an e-war to lead against heterosexual men everywhere? Fag.
Warlord
QUOTE(thehype @ Apr 4 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]385052[/snapback]
LOL.

Who cares if Rampage is talking shit? These guys are fighters...bad blood is always bound to exist when you're dealing with guys that inflict pain.

Plus, he's the champ...he can say whatever he wants to until he loses....besides...THEY DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER...when you don't like someone, you're probably going to talk smack about them.


I like Rampage, and I like shit talkers. I just don't like fighters who call other fighters chumps. Or, more accurately, "chump killers." If Wanderlei Silva is a chump killer, and he raped Quinton on two different occassions, then what exactly does that make Quinton? Right. A chump. Talk shit about guys you beat, or guys you think you will beat. Not guys that already beat your ass. That's just gay.
pcraw
It's easy to talk shit about a guy you've beat or think you will beat, but I think people forget Rampage is a completely different fighter now. Wanderlei may be a different fighter for the worse. I would not be shocked if Jardin beats him. I just think it's funny when people say shit like, "He must have forgot those 2 ass whoopings he got in Pride?" That's lame, these dudes are fighters and are far from scared of any man walking (even someone that has kicked their ass). That would be like Tyson saying some shit about Buster Douglas and people saying the whole, "He mustve forgot that first ass whooping." Rampage jokes alot and if you hear the audio to his interviews he has mad respect for Wanderlei as a fighter, he just doesnt like that I'm Wanderlei Silva and everyone should fear me attitude. I dont think Chute Boxe fighters record in a cage is that great either, but what do I know?
Warlord
QUOTE(pcraw @ Apr 4 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]385063[/snapback]
It's easy to talk shit about a guy you've beat or think you will beat, but I think people forget Rampage is a completely different fighter now.

Agreed. But it doesn't change the fact that he's calling another fighter a "chump killer," when that same fighter beat him and beat him badly on two different occassions. Regardless of the rhyme or reason, is it possible for all of us to admit that it's a little fucking funny for a guy to indirectly refer to himself as a "chump?"

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Wanderlei may be a different fighter for the worse.
May be? He is. Getting KTFO by CroCop and Dan Henderson was just the final step of a long process. Wanderlei's been to hell and back in his career, and the result is what you now see before you in the octagon.

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I would not be shocked if Jardin beats him.

Neither would I, but I'd still be more shocked than I was than when he beat Chuck.

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I just think it's funny when people say shit like, "He must have forgot those 2 ass whoopings he got in Pride?" That's lame.
But still not as lame as the rapee referring to his raper as a "bitch raper" or whatever equivalent you want to apply there.

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These dudes are fighters and are far from scared of any man walking (even someone that has kicked their ass).

Actually, that is pretty much a generalization. Most fighters are afraid. Rampage admittedly has confidence problems when he fights. Anyone whose followed the sport for a considerable time knows this.

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That would be like Tyson saying some shit about Buster Douglas and people saying the whole, "He must've forgot that first ass whooping."
Actually, that's a pretty valid comparison, considering Tyson too had alot of confidence problems throughout his career.

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Rampage jokes alot and if you hear the audio to his interviews he has mad respect for Wanderlei as a fighter, he just doesnt like that I'm Wanderlei Silva and everyone should fear me attitude.

You call another fighter a "chump" and expect someone to take it in any way other than an insult? Not happening, and you and I both know that. Especially when that fighter is one serious about the art of combat, and is overtly conscious of the honor and respect that should exist between opponents.

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I dont think Chute Boxe fighters record in a cage is that great either.
Wasn't Anderson Silva a Chute Boxe fighter? Doesn't he employ the typical Chute Boxe style? If you want to get technical about it, there are no Chute Boxe fighters in the UFC, as all those fighters have since moved on to start their own gyms. Whatever though. Regardless of the name, that Vale Tudo/Muay Thai/Chute Boxe style seems like it translated pretty well to me.

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But what do I know?

You tell me.

Douchebag
QUOTE(ElectricTwinkie @ Apr 4 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]385011[/snapback]
Your high school gen-chem antics may have worked for your JV boy-on-boy wrestle fest piss test, but the Las Vegas Boxing commission has more money tied up in one piece of testing equipment than you do in your car. They know what they are doing.


I guess it Las Vegas Boxing commission has more money then The United States Marine Corps. Too Huh. Because I was in four year smoked trees the whole time and never popped the drug test. Drug tests are very easy to pass when you know they are coming the only that fail those things are idiots.



To answer the demon monkey man all the Pride fighters new a drug test was coming so all of them could prepare where as the UFC guys could get called to do one randomly. It makes a huge difference. Again you have no proof.
pcraw
The Chute Boxe guys that Rampage has fought...Ninja hasnt looked great in a cage, Wanderlei even when he was with Chute Boxe his 1st UFC experience and neither did Shogun. You could always find one case of success (Enter Anderson's Silva's name). You're right I have followed the sport for a considerable amount of time and I know the difference b/tw lacking confidence and being scared (I was also an athlete for a pretty good while not to toot my own horn, but a National Powerlifting Champion to be exact/w National records) Did I lack confidence going into some PL meets? Yeah! Was I ever scared to compete against someone? No! Lacking confidence would be like me saying, "I dont know if I could beat Warlord in a fight." Being scared would be me saying, "Hell no, I'm not fighting Warlord, he'd kill me!" That's why I like Rampage's attitude of, "Let's do it again." If I got beat up after school by the same guy for 2 weeks, I guarantee you I wouldnt change the route in which I walked home; we would just be fighting everyday, win, lose or draw. I think fans want these fighters to bow down too much. Ok, Rampage called Wanderlei a chump, great this is the fight game and us fans benefit from that kind of talk. I wouldnt want to see a 3rd fight b/tw the 2 of them if Rampage comes on and says, "Wanderlei is the Axe Murderer he kicked my ass twice and I'm afraid of him." That's stupid to not want fighters whether they got their ass kicked or not, to say let's do it again. I always see post where people are like, "Rampage is Chuck Liddell's dad." I like both fighters and if Chuck is willing to fight Rampage again, that shows he doesnt fear him and is willing to give it another crack. I think someone should start a thread on why did we have to see Ortiz/Shamrock 3 times instead!
stateofthegame
QUOTE(pcraw @ Apr 5 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]385097[/snapback]
I think someone should start a thread on why did we have to see Ortiz/Shamrock 3 times instead!


Because Ken Shamrock afraid to fight and because his ego is so massive that he truly convinced himself that injuries were why he lost and that he could beat Tito, when in reality Ken Shamrock is one of the most over-hyped guys in the business. In my opinion, he was inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame for not doing anything that great, but since he was willing to come back he was inducted. Frye, Severn, Coleman, hell even Maurice Smith should have been inducted before him.
Warlord
QUOTE(pcraw @ Apr 5 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]385097[/snapback]
The Chute Boxe guys that Rampage has fought...Ninja hasnt looked great in a cage, Wanderlei even when he was with Chute Boxe his 1st UFC experience and neither did Shogun. You could always find one case of success (Enter Anderson's Silva's name). You're right I have followed the sport for a considerable amount of time and I know the difference b/tw lacking confidence and being scared (I was also an athlete for a pretty good while not to toot my own horn, but a National Powerlifting Champion to be exact/w National records) Did I lack confidence going into some PL meets? Yeah! Was I ever scared to compete against someone? No! Lacking confidence would be like me saying, "I dont know if I could beat Warlord in a fight." Being scared would be me saying, "Hell no, I'm not fighting Warlord, he'd kill me!" That's why I like Rampage's attitude of, "Let's do it again." If I got beat up after school by the same guy for 2 weeks, I guarantee you I wouldnt change the route in which I walked home; we would just be fighting everyday, win, lose or draw.

That's fine. But would you walk around school telling everyone that the guy who whipped your ass everyday was a pussy who only beat up other pussies? No. You wouldn't. Because then you'd be calling yourself a pussy, the same way Quinton is calling himself a chump.

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I think fans want these fighters to bow down too much.
I don't want any fighters bowing down. I like bad guys, and I like fighters who talk shit. I like the BJ Penns, the Chris Lebens, the Rampage Jackson's of the world. In boxing I always loved the Durans, the Vargas's, the Tysons, the kind of guys who talked endlessly about how awesome they are and how bad they will fuck everyone up. I just don't like it when fighters get raped in the ring (twice) and then disrespect the skills of the guy who whipped their ass so brutally. It's just dumb. Period. And no amount of rationalization is ever going to compensate for the utter stupidity of making a statement like that.


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Ok, Rampage called Wanderlei a chump, great this is the fight game and us fans benefit from that kind of talk. I wouldnt want to see a 3rd fight b/tw the 2 of them if Rampage comes on and says, "Wanderlei is the Axe Murderer he kicked my ass twice and I'm afraid of him." That's stupid to not want fighters whether they got their ass kicked or not, to say let's do it again.

I'm all for guys wanting rematches with the fighter who beat them. If it was one defeat, I could even understand a fighter claiming he had an off night, he was injured, whatever. What is fucked up is to get BRUTALIZED twice!!! And then fucking run your mouth about how bad your victor sucks and how much of a bad ass you are. That's fucking retarded. And WEAK. Just say you want redemption and STFU.

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I always see post where people are like, "Rampage is Chuck Liddell's dad."
Rampage is Chuck's dad. If Chuck has a problem with it, he can step up and prove otherwise. What isn't acceptable is for him to act like he's the number one badass in the world, and to call Rampage a "Chump Killer" or whatever the fuck that cokehead could come up with.

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I like both fighters and if Chuck is willing to fight Rampage again, that shows he doesnt fear him and is willing to give it another crack.

It just shows denial, actually. Chuck doesn't deserve another shot, and I don't think anyone really believes that. Only Chuck nuthuggers and drunk rednecks think Chuck deserves ANOTHER shot at Rampage. He needs to fight Jardine again, and beat a couple more RANKED 205lbers before even being considered for a title shot. There should be some rule that prevents 0-2 fighters from getting a 3rd fight with their conquerors. Does anyone really want to see Sakuraba/Silva 4? Jones/Tarver 4? Mosley/Wright 3? Mosley/Forrest 3? No. I don't think so.

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I think someone should start a thread on why did we have to see Ortiz/Shamrock 3 times instead!

I agree. I'll be the first guy there to respond to it. It was, is, and will be just as ridiculous as the day Rampage and Liddell meet for a 3rd match. (Which would be next week if Dana White could have his way.)
pcraw
I dont think Chuck deserves a shot either I was just using an example of someone who has loss twice and is still willing to fight a guy. I wouldnt call anyone someone's dad, he loss 2 fights to him; no more no less... I would walk around the school saying we're gonig to fight again. See, Rampage knows what pisses Wanderlei off and sucking up to him and telling him how great he is wont warrant him a rematch. My talks with Juanito leaves me to believe they want this fight more than anything. This is Ra,pages way of getting Wanderlei backin the ring (cage) with him. Vargas still calls De La Hoya a pussy and he got his ass whooped and tested positive for juice, so you may want to take him off of your list, but you know why Vargas still calls him a pussy? Not b/c he doesnt know he got his ass kicked, but he said it himself, he just dont like Oscar De La Hoya; guess what? Rampage and Wanderlei hate each other and that's the reason behind whatever he wants to call Wnaderlei. Dog, Rampage is the champion...I dont think he would trade places with Wanderlei right now. You've seen Chuck Liddell do coke? I dont know what you have against Chuck, but calling him a cokehead is pretty bold when you defended Wanderlei not being a juicer so hard! Glad to show you the difference b/tw lacking confidence and being scared though!
Warlord
QUOTE(pcraw @ Apr 6 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]385260[/snapback]
I dont think Chuck deserves a shot either I was just using an example of someone who has loss twice and is still willing to fight a guy. I wouldnt call anyone someone's dad, he loss 2 fights to him; no more no less... I would walk around the school saying we're gonig to fight again. See, Rampage knows what pisses Wanderlei off and sucking up to him and telling him how great he is wont warrant him a rematch. My talks with Juanito leaves me to believe they want this fight more than anything. This is Ra,pages way of getting Wanderlei backin the ring (cage) with him.

It's real easy to get a fight with Wanderlei. Just ask. He's never been afraid of anyone or anything. Wanderlei has always risen to the challenge, even when Pride was putting him in freakshow matches against gargantuweights like CroCop. I like Quinton, but he was just being stupid by saying what he said, and everybody knows it.

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Vargas still calls De La Hoya a pussy and he got his ass whooped and tested positive for juice, so you may want to take him off of your list, but you know why Vargas still calls him a pussy? Not b/c he doesnt know he got his ass kicked, but he said it himself, he just dont like Oscar De La Hoya/
I've talked to Fernando quite a few times since his match with Oscar, and I've never heard him call Oscar a "pussy" or "chump killer." Sure he hates his guts, but he knows better than to downgrade the skills of a fighter whose kicked his ass.

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Rampage and Wanderlei hate each other and that's the reason behind whatever he wants to call Wnaderlei.

I understand that. Call Wanderlei names if you don't like him, but don't call him a chump killer if you're one of the chumps he's killed.

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Dog, Rampage is the champion...I dont think he would trade places with Wanderlei right now.
Rampage IS the champion, and he is a fine champion whose skills have improved light years beyond what they were when he first got into the game. It still don't mean I ain't gonna call a spade a spade if he says some dumb shit.

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You've seen Chuck Liddell do coke?

Not personally, but I've got enough people whispering this shit in my ear off-the-record and with nothing to gain, to make me wonder. Him showing up zoned-out and falling asleep in mid-interview during an interview on one of those morning talk shows didn't do much to assuage my concerns either. (I can't recall the name of the morning show off the top of my head, but I'm sure you've seen it. If not, I'll get the name and a clip and PM it to you or just post it at a later time in this thread.)

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I dont know what you have against Chuck, but calling him a cokehead is pretty bold!
I don't have anything against Chuck, personally. He's a little arrogant, but that's pretty much the norm for top-flight athletes. I more have a problem with Chuck's fans, so I tend to flame him on occassion just to spite them. Petty, to be sure. But then I never claimed to be a man above pettiness.

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Glad to show you the difference b/tw lacking confidence and being scared though!

Did I say Rampage was scared? Naa. I never mentioned the word "scared" in any of my posts. I simply said that Rampage wasn't a confident fighter. Which he isn't. You brought up being scared. But if you have now clarified, for yourself, the difference between being scared and having a lack of confidence, then big ups to you. It's not often we see one debate onesself on the internet, and come out victorious in the end.
ElectricTwinkie
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Apr 5 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]385090[/snapback]
I guess it Las Vegas Boxing commission has more money then The United States Marine Corps. Too Huh. Because I was in four year smoked trees the whole time and never popped the drug test. Drug tests are very easy to pass when you know they are coming the only that fail those things are idiots.


I'm not here to get into a pissing contest with you about who's drug testing budget is bigger, because I don't know (and neither do you) and I don't care.

But.. you saying that because you passed a Marine Corps piss test therefore the Vegas boxing commission drug test program is crap. I love your logics.

I crossed I-95 on foot, so it's ok to play in traffic. Brilliant.
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