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thehype
Quite frankly, the weekly and monthly THREATS have really been annoying, but bringing my kids into it has crossed the line from being just business to being personal.

So that said, without further ado, I bring you the Monkey Business of Boxingtalk...where fans are monkeys, paying members are monkeys, employees are monkeys, fighters are monkeys...basically everyone is a monkey.

"My attorney will be following up with a letter instructing you to cease and desist from posting BoxingTalk.com's copy-righted paid for members only material on your free message board. Copies will be emailed and mailed to your address momentarily. Is there a lawyer he should send this letter to?" - G. Leon to Hype

"I honestly never wanted to go down this path with you out of respect for your children, but acting as you have it's obvious you care more about starting trouble than you do about them." - G. Leon to Hype

"You and your boarders can say whatever you want about me, I laugh that stuff off, matter fact it makes me work harder." - G. Leon to Hype













Much, much more to follow...


CreDog
Hype---- This is good $hit, not to mention that GL is a prick, which most of us already knew.

I have a feeling that site will $hit the bed sooner rather than later.

Peace...
Byrd Man
MORE! MORE! MORE!

Monkeys need food! lol
AKay
WOWSERZ!!!
4th in whats sure to become the biggest thread ever lol.
AKay
pcraw
Damn... I'm sure it only gets better. You never ever ever ever bring a man's family into anything let alone some website differences.

SHALLOW! Not surprising though...
Method
Pcraw, you 't go by "Nardfan" anymore?

What the fuck? You've gone Hollywood? SOOOO Antonio Tarver of you.

Bro, nice interviews.

You need to do us both a favor and tell either Bernard or Naaz OR BOTH that they need to get Joe Cortez the FUCK out of the ring for this fight. This is not a joke. Cortez gonna fuck up the whole in-fighting aspect, which is a an important one in Hopkins' Southpaw game. I don't know why they are sleeping on addressing this, but they are bound to butt heads (as southpaws and conventionals always do), and things are also bound to get rough inside. Cortez is already accused for giving Hatton a raw deal, not to mention Bernard making him look bad previously. He's gonna be looking for a make up call here. Get him out. You are talking to these peeps, fucking address it.

Peace, bro.
pcraw
QUOTE(Method @ Apr 3 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]384946[/snapback]
Pcraw, you 't go by "Nardfan" anymore?

What the fuck? You've gone Hollywood? SOOOO Antonio Tarver of you.

Bro, nice interviews.

You need to do us both a favor and tell either Bernard or Naaz OR BOTH that they need to get Joe Cortez the FUCK out of the ring for this fight. This is not a joke. Cortez gonna fuck up the whole in-fighting aspect, which is a an important one in Hopkins' Southpaw game. I don't know why they are sleeping on addressing this, but they are bound to butt heads (as southpaws and conventionals always do), and things are also bound to get rough inside. Cortez is already accused for giving Hatton a raw deal, not to mention Bernard making him look bad previously. He's gonna be looking for a make up call here. Get him out. You are talking to these peeps, fucking address it.

Peace, bro.


Method, what's been up my man? I had to get rid of everything associated with my previous writing experience (even the name). Lol! I can never go Hollyweird though homie just a new beginning. I'm worried about "Fair but Firm" being the ref in this fight as well b/c of his willingness to not let guys bang with each other on the inside. I'm sure his team is on it, you know Bhop will wait until the day before the fight or some shit.Lol...Thanks man I'm glad you enjoyed them and good to hear from you!





Method
Man, you better mention it to them for the fuck of it anyway. Don't assume they will do anything, let alone that they even know (my money is on they don't even realize it yet). Cortez is a TERRIBLE selection for this fight, and I have NO IDEA how he got the assignment after Mayweather / Hatton, especially w Hatton being a Goldenboy fighter now.

Look, you have Bernard almost staging a walk off before the Allen III figth, with everyone afterwards talking about how well Hopkins"played" Cortez. There's reason # 1 Joe will be looking to get back some credibility (by not letting Hopkins dictate again). Then you have Mayweather/Hatton where Cortez acted like a chapparone at an 8th grade dance, breaking the guys up whenever they so much as stared at each other for too long. Joe received a LOT of Flack for being biased against Hatton, which could be a reason for him to show some compassion to the European now (especially coupled with the fact that he knows he got played for Allen III. For the cherry on top, Hopkins dissed Cortez's flag, which was the whole reason Bernard didn't want him involved in Allen (and DLH) in the first place.

This all adds up to wreak of some bullshit.

Cortez must be ousted.

Boxingjunkie
Nice Hype. Please post more when you get the chance. Also since I live in Tennessee, dispite what he may think, I like Memphis
Tha Docta
hype, where do you live? my brothers a lawyer and might be able to help you out.
STEVENSKI
I am a net moron so how can I make the screendumps bigger so I can read them?
thehype
QUOTE(Tha Docta @ Apr 3 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]384954[/snapback]
hype, where do you live? my brothers a lawyer and might be able to help you out.


Check your PM.

Maybe I can get a Dream Team together made up of your brother, Judd Burstein and Shelly Finkel.

From what I recall, Judd Burstein isn't the biggest fan of Leon...and even if he is, I'm sure he'd be upset to know that Leon was forwarding some of his emails containing private conversations to me.

And Shelly probably wouldn't be happy to know that his ad rate is A LOT different than that of Gary Shaw and Lou DiBella.

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QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Apr 3 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]384957[/snapback]
I am a net moron so how can I make the screendumps bigger so I can read them?


I believe there should be a black bar above each image that tells you the picture has been reduced and offers a clickable link that will expand the size of the image. Let me know if you're having any problems with this MUST READ EXCLUSIVE! ONLY ON FIGHTHYPE.COM!

A couple of notes:

The first email is just one of MANY where paying members are referred to as "monkeys" or "annoying"...I'll be sure to dig up more of those.

The second email, just one of MANY times when Nichols got stiffed...and he's STILL getting stiffed from what I understand.

Emails 3, 4 and 5...just round 1 of a very long fight between Leon and Cooney that saw Cooney leave only to ultimately return. MUCH, MUCH more on that drama to follow (and if Cooney happens to see this....hey Brad, no hard feelings about you forwarding my private email to you on to Leon...as you can see, he was forwarding your private emails on to me as well).

Email 6, the most interesting thing to note:

"If Brian Young is going to advertise on Boxingtalk and he wants to make sure Boxingtalk covers his shows, then he should cover the cost just as everyone else does for me to travel around the country....Those little Memphis shows aren't worth the cost to me, but they should be worth the cost to B. Young"

Okay...Brian Young is a PAYING advertiser and you mean to tell me that you're not interested in covering his events. Not only is it a privilege for him to pay for an ad on the site, but he should also feel privileged to pay for travel expenses? CHRIST is Brian Young actually that foolish? I should have charged him TEN TIMES the amount of money that I did his website for. Silly me for being a nice guy.

Anyway...like I said...MUCH more monkey business to follow....

stateofthegame
You must have got that letter today from the lawyer.
Byrd Man
love it.
thehype
QUOTE(stateofthegame @ Apr 3 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]384975[/snapback]
You must have got that letter today from the lawyer.


Actually no...I haven't received anything yet...but he did ask me if there was a second address to send the cease and desist letter to. I have no idea what other address he would need...I guess my lawyer's address, although I don't have one....but whatever...if he's going to send it, then send it.

No, I just stewed for about a week on that comment regarding me not caring about my kids...I just couldn't hold it in anymore...now, I'm just like:

fuck.gif

I mean, who the fuck does this guy think he is to imply that I don't care about my kids simply because I wouldn't take down some fuckin threads? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't HE the one who's been parading around at fights with some stripper attached to a leash while his WIFE and KIDS are at home? FUCK THAT! I can't wait for him to deny that one just so I can post the email he forwarded to me from the OTHER chick who broke it off with him. This guy has some nerve to bring my kids into this. I've had enough!! You got a problem with me and my business...that's one thing...but to say he didn't want to go down this path out of "respect for my children" and that I don't care about them....FUCK THAT! UGH! IT JUST PISSES ME OFF EVEN THINKING ABOUT!!!!!

I fuckin' carried Boxingtalk on my back for YEARS...slaved on it for so many days and nights...put in more hours and work than ANYBODY...INCLUDING LEON...editing videos, converting audio, ripping DVDs, hype boxes, popup ads, chats, handling all the member problems that he'd forward on to me...you name it, I did it...whatever he asked for, he got and I never asked for anything in return.

If it wasn't for me, the site would still look like a damn black and white ransom note like it did when Leon took over. If it wasn't for me, he'd still paying enourmous bandwidth fees to third-party streaming companies, like this one:



If it wasn't for me, he wouldn't even be able to update the site on his own right now.

I've done more for the fans and members of boxingtalk than any of them know...and what's sad is that I, not Leon, but I was the one that actually cared about them, and yet they all think he gives a damn about them!

I'm sure Leon is looking at this now and his reply would be that I'm bitter...but I'm not bitter...if I were bitter, I would have come out with a lot of this stuff a loooooong time ago. I'm not bitter at all. On the contrary, I'm EXTREMELY happy to be on my own now and not have to hear his irritating, "what's good my nigga...I just bought some new kicks....I just picked up a new snakeskin hat....you would be so proud of your boy...blah, blah, blah". However, I'm EXTREMELY irritated that this child just won't leave me alone and I'll be DAMNED if he thinks he's going to say that I don't care about my kids or use his intimidation tactics to try and scare me. Nah homie...I'm not your typical monkey....this one knows how to fight back. Whether I win or lose really makes no difference to me (well...okay...that's not exactly true...I don't like to lose), but I'll definitely be sure to get my licks in. If he wants to "crush" me like he recently told Rick Reeno of Boxingscene.com, then bring it!

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Byrd Man
okay....so what you're saying....is that there's some tension between you guys, right?

I mean I THINK I understand the situation but I'm not quite sure. lol
Byrd Man
BTW: I heard this was Leon's chick practicing for her night with him.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQNKRDFanQE
Mino
QUOTE(pcraw @ Apr 3 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]384945[/snapback]
Damn... I'm sure it only gets better. You never ever ever ever bring a man's family into anything let alone some website differences.

SHALLOW! Not surprising though...

Formely known as NardFan huh...Whats going on kid long time...Anyway just got to let you know for the 1st time ever i believe I will be rooting for your boy..hurts my heart to admit it but yes i will be rooting...Should be a good 1....Peace
STEVENSKI
Cheers Ben.

Wow I am so glad I never paid that wigger a dime. I wonder how Zab & co feel about him throwing the N word around so freely?

Keep up the great work as this is the best fight site around.
Nay_Sayer
Does his argument even have a leg to stand on?
stateofthegame
This just goes to prove that everyone at the site including myself, Ben, Percy, everyone was getting taken advantage of over there. The writers, and Ben doing the leg work on the site made it what it was, and then to find out Ben was not hardly involved the past couple of years when I would send things in to be put on the site and it would take days before it would go up without any explanation.

The last straw for me really was when my friend Terry Smith was on the schedule to face Chris Byrd (no offense Byrd Man), and then Chris pulled out of the fight making Terry mad and he voiced his frustrations about the whole deal and I was basically told "who the fuck is Terry Smith to say anything about Chris Byrd" and then he followed it up with an interview with Chris trying to get him to say something, but Byrd remained a class act saying nothing negative and stated he understood Terry's frustration and explained the situation.

It is little things like that that got to me, like when there would be chats with not real big names, but when I tried to get one for Terry I was always turned down because Terry was not a major player. Then to find out that a few of the chats were not even the real guys all the time really bugged me.

But just like Jimmy Buffett says in one of his songs "I have found me a home."

Thanks Ben.
Tha Docta
QUOTE(stateofthegame @ Apr 4 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]385021[/snapback]
This just goes to prove that everyone at the site including myself, Ben, Percy, everyone was getting taken advantage of over there. The writers, and Ben doing the leg work on the site made it what it was, and then to find out Ben was not hardly involved the past couple of years when I would send things in to be put on the site and it would take days before it would go up without any explanation.

The last straw for me really was when my friend Terry Smith was on the schedule to face Chris Byrd (no offense Byrd Man), and then Chris pulled out of the fight making Terry mad and he voiced his frustrations about the whole deal and I was basically told "who the fuck is Terry Smith to say anything about Chris Byrd" and then he followed it up with an interview with Chris trying to get him to say something, but Byrd remained a class act saying nothing negative and stated he understood Terry's frustration and explained the situation.

It is little things like that that got to me, like when there would be chats with not real big names, but when I tried to get one for Terry I was always turned down because Terry was not a major player. Then to find out that a few of the chats were not even the real guys all the time really bugged me.

But just like Jimmy Buffett says in one of his songs "I have found me a home."

Thanks Ben.



i always wondered if the real fighters were actually there answering questions in the chats. what chats in particular did he cheat people on?

i can understand you being upset about the terry smith statement not being posted on btalk, but i can also understand why he wouldnt do a terry smith chat. i dont want to hurt any feelings here, but who in their right mind would want to do an online chat with terry smith?
Byrd Man
no offense taken. lol

stateofthegame
QUOTE(Tha Docta @ Apr 4 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]385023[/snapback]
i always wondered if the real fighters were actually there answering questions in the chats. what chats in particular did he cheat people on?

i can understand you being upset about the terry smith statement not being posted on btalk, but i can also understand why he wouldnt do a terry smith chat. i dont want to hurt any feelings here, but who in their right mind would want to do an online chat with terry smith?


That really was not the point, but rather at the time there were chats with other guys that no one cared about either but there were chat sessions with them, so trying to help out a guy that was always willing to do interviews on the site, plus a guy that knows quite a lot on the state of certain fighters because of the high caliber of camps he was in with some of the big names who had fights coming up that he could answer questions about made sense to me but still was refused the chat sessions.

I have heard of several of the big name chats were not the real people, but that he supposedly had permission to speak on their behalf. Even if permission was granted does not take away from the fact that paid members or just fans on free chats were made to believe that they were talking to these guys at the time.
Tha Docta
QUOTE(stateofthegame @ Apr 4 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]385026[/snapback]
That really was not the point, but rather at the time there were chats with other guys that no one cared about either but there were chat sessions with them, so trying to help out a guy that was always willing to do interviews on the site, plus a guy that knows quite a lot on the state of certain fighters because of the high caliber of camps he was in with some of the big names who had fights coming up that he could answer questions about made sense to me but still was refused the chat sessions.

I have heard of several of the big name chats were not the real people, but that he supposedly had permission to speak on their behalf. Even if permission was granted does not take away from the fact that paid members or just fans on free chats were made to believe that they were talking to these guys at the time.



it really doesnt make sense to do chats with any fighters that nobody cares about. might as well do a conference call since there would only be 3 or 4 people interested anyway. if a guys unknown, a story on the guy is better than having a live chat.
thehype
QUOTE(Tha Docta @ Apr 4 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]385023[/snapback]
i always wondered if the real fighters were actually there answering questions in the chats. what chats in particular did he cheat people on?


If memory serves me correctly, I know there was DEFINITELY a Winky Wright chat (or two or three...) that he informed me he would be doing on his own.

Oh, and there were fake interviews too. I know for a FACT that he wrote an interview for Zab. In fact, after he wrote it, he emailed it to me to read through it. I'm pretty sure it was right around the time of the Baldomir loss....when they were trying to make that Mayweather fight. I think the email was entitled, "Saving Zab from himself", and the interview was basically an attempt to fix some shit with DK. Can't remember exactly. I know I still have the email though with the interview though...when I get home, I'll see if I can track it down and post it. Oh yes....I'm going there.

fuck.gif

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure he had permission to do that....to basically write the interview, get it approved and then put it up...but still, that's fraudulent representation to the fans...putting an interview out there as though they were the words of Zab Judah, when they were actually the words of Leon acting like Judah.

thehype
QUOTE(Nay_Sayer @ Apr 4 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]385015[/snapback]
Does his argument even have a leg to stand on?


Well personally, I don't think so...but then again, I'm not a lawyer so I'm not 100% sure on that.

But I guess we're going to find out.
Byrd Man
don't sweat it Hype. He don't want it with the HMIC. lol
thehype
Okay, okay, okay....so I found an example of a doctored up interview. For those that always wondered why Leon likes to take credit for "making" the Mayweather-Judah fight, this interview is probably one of the biggest reasons. In the first version of the interview (see below), Zab, who had just lost to Baldomir, was doing a lot of complaining about the money not being right and that he might not fight Mayweather if things didn't change. Leon took the liberty to change a lot of it in order to "save superman from himself" by preventing him from pissing off Don King and talking himself out of a big money fight.

Here's an image of the first version:



And here's an image of the heavily doctored version:



Here's the full first version:

QUOTE

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Leon [mailto:vze2bxtt@verizon.net]Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:59 PM
To: Ben Thompson
Cc: ray@boxingtalk.com
Subject: Zab Interview

GL: What's popping Superman? "Ain't nothing. I'm fresh from Aruba right now. I'm in Puerto Rico right now, the fans here are beautiful and they're treating me really nice so viva Puerto Rico. I just touched down and my phone has been going crazy. I've been checking all my messages and I'm seeing how everybody is presuming that the fight is done for April 8. I have no knowledge that it's going on yet, but as soon as I get the chance to talk with my promoter we'll see what's going on. But from the numbers I hear, it looks like it might be Mayweather standing in the ring by himself on April 8."

GL: What do you mean when you say the numbers that you hear, can you elabortate on that any?

Zab Judah: "They're talking about one million for me and Don to split and Mayweather's getting $5-6M. It ain't going down like that you know what I'm saying? It ain't even going down like that homey. I don't want all of my great fans to get too hyped up because if nothing changes nothing budges."

GL: So if there's not more than a million there isn't going to be a fight?

Zab Judah: "Oh hell no!"

GL: Don't you think people will look at that and say why can't you split a million with Don when you took much less to fight Spinks in St. Louis?

ZJ: "It's a different fight. This fight is bigger than the Zab Judah-Cory Spinks fight. This fight right here is there Hagler and Leonard of today. This is like what Winky Wright did when he fought Trinidad. That was his big hurrah and nobody knows what comes after that. You have to cash in while you could cash in."

GL: Coming off the Baldomir fight don't you think people would...

ZJ: (cutting in) "Listen, the Baldomir fight was a joke to me. Those who were around me know the real story and they know what it was. I'm not making no excuses, but Baldomir couldn't beat me if I had no arms. I beat him on my bad day, but I'm not going to make no excuses. I can't even talk about Baldomir no more. I got sparring partners that are better than him."

GL: Is there anything you'd like to say in closing?

ZJ: "If you want to get the real deal on Zab "Super" Judah, the first live interview, because I ain't doing nothing with nobody else...Straight from vacation, I 'm calling him while I'm on vacation right now, I called my homey at his crib, G. Leon y'all tap into Boxingtalk.com and remember ya boy said it first, ya heard!"

GL: I think most would agree that if you were at your best you win the Baldomir fight ten out of ten times. But based on the fact that he took the decision, if the Mayweather fight doesn't come off because of you not being satisfied with the money are you concerned people will paint you as the villain and reason the fight isn't happening?

ZJ: "Since I was a little kid, I've always been the villian in the movie so it wouldn't be nothing new in my book. It's just another chapter, being the bad guy in the movies is something that I like. If boxing was my only way of making money, I would be desperate and have nowhere else to go. That's like being starving on the corner if someone throws you a crumb you're going to eat it. Right now I'm just not interested in the numbers that they're talking about right now. Everybody knows that I want this Mayweather fight more than anything. Critics in boxing and boxing fans know I don't get pumped up enough for a guy like Carlos Baldomir, but if I get a guy like Cory Spinks of Floyd Mayweather, I'm known to bring out my 'A' game and my 'A' game is Super."

GL: If the Mayeather fight doesn't come off, how else could you become a million dollar fighter by April 9?

ZJ: "I don't know. That could be talked about in the future, but I'm already that. You see the made-backs and the Lamborghini's...That didn't come from no Don King you know what I'm saying. You seen my house, I'm alright homey."

GL: Are you and Don King back on the same page these days?

ZJ: "Don is my promoter and I'm a fighter so we'll handle things. I have managers and people who handle my business. King and me spoke but I wasn't really coherent to what he was saying because I busy playing my video games."

GL: So can we expect the Mayweather fight to get done when you return from vacation?

ZJ: "Anytime I got to split a million with somebody and not that I'm clocking his money, he's getting $5M and I'm supposed to splt the million 50-50 with my promoter, so $500,000 for a Mayweather fight? Nah, you're out your mind. No way America, not when we had a signed contract for $3.5M. If they want to use the Baldomir fight as an excuse to drop the money down like that, they could go ahead and look for another fight. I'm pretty sure Mayweather would be happy with that anyway, because he don't really want none."

GL: Do you feel you'll get more money than what's on the table to fight Mayweather on April 8?

ZJ: "If he wants to fight we can make it happen. To make this fight happen it don't take no Bob Arum's or Don King's. None of them dudes. All he has to do is call my phone. He's got my number and he could talk to me like a man one on one. We could do this whole shit ourself and go ahead and get money. But if we're going to be children about this, let the games begin. Floyd already knows my style."

GL: Floyd just told everybody on Boxingtalk that he's training for the Zab JUdah that fought Cory Spinks, but he says he's going to knock you out anyway...

ZJ: (cutting in) "That's Floyd Mayweather for you. That's boxing talk right there. Any fighter in their right mind is supposed to say that. That's a given. I could basically write the script of what Floyd has to say to make himself feel bigger."

GL: People were really looking forward to this fight because of the feud that developed on Boxingtalk.com between you and Floyd after years of being close friends. Then after the Baldomir fight you were speaking with each other politely as gentleman. Are you guys friends or are you going to be at each other's throats on April 8?

ZJ: "I'm not with no kissing and make up shit. If I say something that's what I mean. I don't hate Floyd and I want to be clear about that. I don't hate him and I have a great deal of respect for his family. I don't hate the dude, but in this day and era right now we're the two best fighters out here right now so that causes us to clash. Before we could clash and really go at it there's going to be some shit talking. We got to put our friendship aside so we could lock ass and lock ass serious. God knows people don't want to see a boring twelve round fight with Judah and Mayweather playing around with each other. Everybody wants to see a brutal fight."

GL: Would you be able to give us a brutal fight after that Baldomir fight Superman?

ZJ: "That's what I do, that's exactly what I do. People who want to dwell on the Baldomir go ahead and waste your breath. Bet your money and make it even better. I got tons of money and I got friends with money so if anyone wants to make some bets contact me through Boxingtalk.com, put your money up and let's make it happen."

GL: So Zab's taking all bets?

ZJ: "That's right!"


The actual "members-only, paid-for" version of the interview that made the website can be found at this link:

http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article6775.html

Obviously you have to be a member to view it, but here's the full second version that was emailed to me FREE OF CHARGE and copied directly from the Inbox of MY Microsoft Outlook:

QUOTE

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Leon [mailto:vze2bxtt@verizon.net]Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 7:25 PM
To: Ben Thompson
Subject: saving superman from himself

GL: What's popping Superman? "Ain't nothing. I'm fresh from Aruba right now. I'm in Puerto Rico right now, the fans here are beautiful and they're treating me really nice so viva Puerto Rico. I just touched down and my phone has been going crazy. I've been checking all my messages and just getting ready to enjoy the rest of my vacation before I put Floyd to sleep."


"Listen, the Baldomir fight was a joke to me. Those who were around me know the real story and they know what it was. I'm not making no excuses, but Baldomir couldn't beat me if I had no arms. I beat him on my bad day, but I'm not going to make no excuses. I can't even talk about Baldomir no more. I got sparring partners that are better than him."

"Everybody knows that I want this Mayweather fight more than anything. Critics in boxing and boxing fans know I don't get pumped up enough for a guy like Carlos Baldomir, but if I get a guy like Cory Spinks of Floyd Mayweather I'm known to bring out my 'A' game and my 'A' game is Super."

GL: Are you and Don King back on the same page these days?

ZJ: "Don is my promoter and I'm a fighter so we'll handle things. I have managers and people who handle my business. King and me spoke but I wasn't really coherent to what he was saying because I busy playing my video games."

GL: Floyd just told everybody on Boxingtalk that he's training for the Zab JUdah that fought Cory Spinks, but he says he's going to knock you out anyway...

ZJ: (cutting in) "That's Floyd Mayweather for you. That's boxing talk right there. Any fighter in their right mind is supposed to say that. That's a given. I could basically write the script of what Floyd has to say to make himself feel bigger."

GL: People were really looking forward to this fight because of the feud that developed on Boxingtalk.com between you and Floyd after years of being close friends. Then after the Baldomir fight you were speaking with each other politely as gentleman. Are you guys friends or are you going to be at each other's throats on April 8?

ZJ: "I'm not with no kissing and make up shit. If I say something that's what I mean. I don't hate Floyd and I want to be clear about that. I don't hate him and I have a great deal of respect for his family. I don't hate the dude, but in this day and era right now we're the two best fighters out here right now so that causes us to clash. Before we could clash and really go at it there's going to be some shit talking. We got to put our friendship aside so we could lock ass and lock ass serious. God knows people don't want to see a boring twelve round fight with Judah and Mayweather playing around with each other. Everybody wants to see a brutal fight."

GL: Would you be able to give us a brutal fight after that Baldomir fight Superman?

ZJ: "That's what I do, that's exactly what I do. People who want to dwell on the Baldomir go ahead and waste your breath. Bet your money and make it even better. I got tons of money and I got friends with money so if anyone wants to make some bets contact me through Boxingtalk.com, put your money up and let's make it happen."

GL: So Zab's taking all bets?

ZJ: "That's right!"


GL: Is there anything you'd like to say in closing?

ZJ: "If you want to get the real deal on Zab "Super" Judah, the first live interview, because I ain't doing nothing with nobody else...Straight from vacation, I 'm calling him while I'm on vacation right now, I called my homey at hwBoxingtalk.com and remember ya boy said it first, ya heard!"


So when people wonder why certain fighters, like Zab, are "loyal" to Leon, it's simply because of situations like this. A particular fighter might express his opinion about things, but because of Leon's perceived relationships with certain people, he "advices" them that it may not be a "good look" and suggests other ways to say things or simply just rewords it himself in order to make it come out differently. There are several examples of this and if you read between the lines, you can pretty much tell when it's happening...well, at least I can.

Not exactly a bastion of journalistic integrity, but then again, you probably already knew that.

But that's just a small, tiny example of "advice" given to fighters and the monkey business that goes on behind the scenes. The best example I ever witnessed was the masterful maneuver he pulled with Cory Spinks...getting him to bounce from Don King behind his back to sign with Bobby Bostick. Very, very sneaky move. Ah, but that's another story...all in due time...all in due time.
The CEO
This is a fuckin' beating. Somebody stop it.

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Byrd Man
the fuck is that shit about not listening to King cause he was playing Video Games????

Man if Leon was watching his back, I woulda thought he would take THAT shit out. lol
Byrd Man
QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Apr 5 2008, 12:27 AM) [snapback]385060[/snapback]
This is a fuckin' beating. Somebody stop it.

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Who the fuck is you, Richard Steele? Don't stop this! This is just getting going!

ha ha ha ha
pcraw
Sad indeed. The sad part is fighters like Zab feel like they need him for some odd reason. I would want to be quoted as I said it, not paraphrased and well...rewritten. Fans pay their hard earned money to get these exclusive fighter interviews and their getting a one on one with G. to himself!

DAMNNNNN!
The CEO
QUOTE(Byrd Man @ Apr 5 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]385062[/snapback]
Who the fuck is you, Richard Steele? Don't stop this! This is just getting going!

ha ha ha ha


lol...I'm just an innocent bystander....but seriously...this is a One Eighty Seven in progress.
Byrd Man
I ain't seen nothing Officer. lol

All I DID see, was that dude beat the shit outta himself. Was the damndest thing.
thehype
See, if you can read between the lines in some of Zab's recent interviews regarding Shane Mosley, you might be able to notice some things that seem a little out of character Zab...well...not necessarily out of character, but just a little off...like he's really going out of his way to say certain things and make certain points. Gotta wonder if he's really saying that or if things have been altered to appear a certain way.

"If I say something that's what I mean."

Is it though?

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I don't know...might have to consult biggeorge on this one. Yo biggeorge...you're one of his biggest fans...you know what he's sayin'?

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Just messin' with ya bro.
rusty_trombone
damn, i'm gonna start fake interviewing people, posting that shit on a web-site. fake interviews with the president, maybe even the dalai llama or some shit.
Byrd Man
I got a fake interview coming up with State of the Game's Byrd hating ass.

Wait'll you see THAT! lol
The CEO
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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The CEO
They don't know what to think...lol

FightHype WEBL, bitches......front row Entertainment.


UPDATE: My last two posts were regarding Cyrus' now infamous WEBL post that was swatted out of here...on behalf of the boys, we're sorry for the disruption...we were wrong thinking this was a good place to promote FH's WEBL section....now back to the show...
stateofthegame
QUOTE(Byrd Man @ Apr 5 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]385109[/snapback]
I got a fake interview coming up with State of the Game's Byrd hating ass.

Wait'll you see THAT! lol


All I ask is if you at least have me say something interesting. LOL!!
spice718
QUOTE(Tha Docta @ Apr 4 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]385023[/snapback]
i always wondered if the real fighters were actually there answering questions in the chats. what chats in particular did he cheat people on?

i can understand you being upset about the terry smith statement not being posted on btalk, but i can also understand why he wouldnt do a terry smith chat. i dont want to hurt any feelings here, but who in their right mind would want to do an online chat with terry smith?



Most times Greg does the interviews himself. Many times when he could not get in touch with Shane he conducted his own interview with Shane- like answers. 7 out of 10 of Shane interviews were done by him. Hint... When it ends with Boxingtalk being the best website out there it is a Greg & Greg interview.
Byrd Man
QUOTE(spice718 @ Apr 6 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]385267[/snapback]
Hint... When it ends with Boxingtalk being the best website out there it is a Greg & Greg interview.

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black eye.gif <<< Greg after this whole thread. lol
thehype
QUOTE(spice718 @ Apr 6 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]385267[/snapback]
Hint... When it ends with Boxingtalk being the best website out there it is a Greg & Greg interview.


LMAO

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Remember where you heard it first.

Much, much more to follow.
Byrd Man
Yo Hype....um....quick question....

If I ever piss you off....um...can you give me a chance to call up and apologize? lol

I don't neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed this kinda slaughter on my record! ha ha ha

I just wish Greg was here to TRY to defend himself. Can only imagine what he'd have to say about all this. lol

hardhead
shit is crazy what goes on behind the scenes, I guess this shit is like any business...laugh.gif
STEVENSKI
This a a shower room assault & the worst thing is that this shit will go on daily. I am sure that Ben has months & months of quality stuff he can drip feed to us hungry savages giving us just enough to leave us wanting more.

This is better than reality TV or any soap opera.
pcraw
Hype, I gotta get a preview to the next episode of these Reality bite threads! Nah, it's sad it had to come to this, but like I said, you never eva, eva, eva, eva bring a man's family into these things! With that being said, next week on Hype of Love.....lol
thehype
QUOTE(Byrd Man @ Apr 6 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]385278[/snapback]
Yo Hype....um....quick question....

If I ever piss you off....um...can you give me a chance to call up and apologize? lol

I don't neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed this kinda slaughter on my record! ha ha ha

I just wish Greg was here to TRY to defend himself. Can only imagine what he'd have to say about all this. lol


It's not really about a need to apologize...this boy just won't leave me alone. I haven't been with leontalk since June of last year and yet, he's constantly calling and emailing me with threats and demands. Quite frankly, I don't want to have anything to do with him and I've tried to pretend like he doesn't even exist, but for some reason, he feels this need to keep threatening me. His latest ultimatum was the last straw so fvck it...he's the one that said he wants to go to war and "crush" me so by all means, bring it! The war is on so fire your best artillery homie.

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As far as him being here to defend himself, you should know better than to expect something like that because the "30 monkeys" that post here are way beneath him. But even if he were here, you don't have to be Miss Cleo in order to predict what he would say:

"Yeah...that nigga Hype is bitter because I fired him....it's just a shame his professionalism wasn't up to par...quite frankly, I was glad to get rid of him before things really started taking off....it was an addition by subtraction....blah, blah, blah....."

All he would try and do is attack my character, which he'd have an extremely hard time of doing. On the contrary, I've got a slew of emails that point to the type of character he has...shittin' on paying members, fans, fighters, promoters, managers, employees...you name it. He can't really defend himself when it comes to things like fake interviews and chats, talking about people behind their back and pitting people against each other. I mean, I've already given you visual proof and Mrs. Mosley just co-signed so it's pretty tough for him to dispute that. I mean, if I had to, I could point out several other fake interviews...in fact, I've seen him use some of my own lines in a few interviews. Even funnier, he's written interviews to shit on some of his own fighters that he now "advises". If memory serves me correctly, which it does, he wrote some of the stuff that Sechew Powell was "saying" when he was shittin' on Ishe Smith before they fought in February of last year. How fvcked up is that? Here's a guy that your advising, but you were writing things for another guy in order to piss your boy off. What kind of a fvcked up relationship is that? I mean, how can you take advise from someone who's doing crap like that behind your back?

But seriously...LMAO @ being bitter...if I were bitter, I would have dropped all this shit a looooong time ago...like maybe in July. And LMAO @ him claiming to fire me. Don't worry...when I get bored, I'll post a copy of the transcipt that I have of me and him and discussing my "departure".

QUOTE(hardhead @ Apr 6 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]385284[/snapback]
shit is crazy what goes on behind the scenes, I guess this shit is like any business...laugh.gif


You ain't seen nothing yet.


QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Apr 6 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]385285[/snapback]
This a a shower room assault & the worst thing is that this shit will go on daily. I am sure that Ben has months & months of quality stuff he can drip feed to us hungry savages giving us just enough to leave us wanting more.

This is better than reality TV or any soap opera.


Months & months? Try years & years.


QUOTE(pcraw @ Apr 6 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]385292[/snapback]
Hype, I gotta get a preview to the next episode of these Reality bite threads! Nah, it's sad it had to come to this, but like I said, you never eva, eva, eva, eva bring a man's family into these things! With that being said, next week on Hype of Love.....lol


On the next episode of Monkey Business....

Avon wants his bread and Cooney wants his tape!
Coyote Duran
QUOTE(spice718 @ Apr 6 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]385267[/snapback]
Most times Greg does the interviews himself. Many times when he could not get in touch with Shane he conducted his own interview with Shane- like answers. 7 out of 10 of Shane interviews were done by him. Hint... When it ends with Boxingtalk being the best website out there it is a Greg & Greg interview.


Oh, don't count them out yet, ma'am. At least they have Dan Horgan's inflammatory piece on Jesus Chavez to fall back on. thumbsdown_anim.gif
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