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.Here's your one article!
From The Providence Journal, October 11, 1949 MARCIANO GETS DECISION OVER TED LOWRY ROCKY'S SHOWING IS WEAK AGAINST VETERAN BOXER Brockton Boy Just Weathers Early Storm, Then Foe's Attack Slackens By Michael J. Thomas There were strange developments and questions left unanswered as Rocky Marciano, undefeated young Brockton heavyweight was awarded a unanimous decision over Tiger Ted Lowry of New Haven in their 10- rounder at the Auditorium last night. Marciano, in the first place, did not win the fight, as this observer saw it. This reporter gave it to Lowry, 6 rounds to 4, but this wasn't the dilemma-hardly. There were some questions as to whether Lowry, who came close to knocking out Marciano in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds, deliberately had bogged down in his attack after the 4th stanza. Many in the crowd felt he had. Asit was, the referee, Ben Maculan, warned Lowry 3 times to open up. In the 5th, he bellowed, ''Open up, or I'll toss you out'' and twice similarly threatened him in the 7th. If Lowry had not punched with the vigor he did in the first 4 stanzas, this observer unhesitatingly would say that Lowry intentionally slowed up. But Lowry punched as though bent on making a kill in the early stages. The wonder of it was that Marciano withstood the punishment he took. Lowry stung him with 2 terrific rights in the 1st. He rocked him with 2 vicious uppercuts in the 2nd, either of which would have finished a less durable boxer. And in the 4th, Lowry had Marciano in such a bad way that it appeared it would be only a matter of time before he would complete his kill. Lowry suddenly stopped using his uppercut after the 4th, however. He went into a shell and only occasionally landed power shots. He seemed to be carrying Marciano. The crowd booed and Maculan, not liking what he saw, stormed at Lowry, who responded with an impassive look. It may have been that Lowry, 9 year ring veteran, tired. It may have been that he weakened from Marciano's unending body attack, but whatever the reason, there was an appreciable decline in his offensive operations in the 2nd half of the fight and it didn't look good to the crowd, nor to this observer.
Nice article. It seems Mr. Michael J. Thomas is a little contradictory in his assesesment. He claims Lowry won the fight 6 rounds to 4, but admits that Lowry wore down badly after the 4th round, and did little but hold for the rest of the fight, even drawing warnings from the ref to fight or get disqualified.
He then surmises that "perhaps" Lowry was worn down from Marciano's brutal "unending" body attack. Lol. You think?
In no way, shape, or form does this reek of a "life and death" fight. It reeks of an impartial observer stinging from the fact that an aging veteran succumbed to the youth and vigor of an up-and-coming brawler with an ugly style.
I did enjoy reading that article though, so thanks for that. Where did you find it, btw, because I'd like to read some more articles along that same line.
Yet you give Rokcy credit for fighting a washed up Joe Louis who was still giving Rock Hell!
He wasn't giving Rocky hell. Rocky was carrying Joe because he was afraid to hurt him. Rock's corner was shouting over and over for him to open up, but he simply wouldn't comply, because of his immense admiration for Louis. Rocky's corner finally managed to convince him that he would be doing more damage by carrying Joe than if he just took him out. Rock then proceeded to promptly deposit Mr. Louis (nearly) out of the ring. And afterwards, it is said, he went to his dressing room and wept.
Its not like Rocky fought any big Heavyweights!
Neither did Joe Louis, unless you count Primo. There simply werent' any "big" heavyweights at that time. Though Rocky himself was considered to be a "small" heavyweight, even in his own era. He was 190lbs, and had the shortest reach of any heavyweight champion in history.
That's my opinion and alot of other people as well!
I've only seen you make this claim. No one else.
Leaving Rocky out of the top ten was simply beacuse I found 10 fighters who I thought were better.
Rocky would've murdered Jack Johnson. Find me one person who thinks differently.
By THe Way, List your top ten!
Because I've spent so much time lambasting you over your selection, I reckon it's only fair if I return the favor and put my own list up for scrutiny. Be warned though, I'm not married to this list and I won't waste much time defending it. If I wrote it again in ten minutes, you might find it quite different from the one you see now. I might kick Dempsey off in favor of Tunney, and I might leave Joe Frazier off altogether. Larry Holmes and his "in-between eras" ass might not make the cut, and George Foreman might drop out of the top 5 due to his stamina issues in youth, and age issues in... well... his age.
I list Ali, Louis, and Marciano as the top 3, in no particular order except alphabetical, because of the disparity in eras and physical dimensions. Those 3, especially Rocky, can't fairly be compared to each other because of size limitations/era discrepencies. Ali had the fortune of being born in the golden age of heavyweights, whereas Rocky has the fortune of being, statistically speaking, the greatest champion boxing has ever known. Whereas Joe Louis had both a great physical skill set and a cultural importance that continues to resonate with Americans, even today.
All that aside, my list:
1a) Muhammad Ali
1b) Joe Louis
1c) Rocky Marciano
4) George Foreman
5) Evander Holyfield
6) Lennox Lewis
7) Mike Tyson
8) Larry Holmes
9) Joe Frazier
10) Jack Dempsey