QUOTE(JD @ May 31 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]390962[/snapback]
Listen...here is the harsh reality of American politics from someone who is very into politics...
Odds are, that a good number of the people you see posting here are not receiving any type of representation in the government. Think about who you are, where you are in life, and who is running our government and what they are doing. Whether it is socially or economically, the vast majority of us are left to wonder what real representation would be like.
McCain...doesn't represent me.
Obama...doesn't represent me.
Hillary...doesn't represent me.
So what do you do? Well, from my perspective, when looking at whats left, I cross off Hillary first. We already learned what happens when you elect someone with existing influence and power - and it ain't good. There is a general sense of "I can do what I want because of who my Dad (Husband) was and get away with it." Hillary frightens the hell out of me, and being a New Yorker, I can tell you firsthand, she WILL say anything, and has done nothing.
That leaves McCain and Obama, which in the end, are our presumptive nominees, and in my opinion, were from the beginning.
So, do you want the guy that claims to be the straight talker free of lobbyists who is tied into more lobbyists than any of us know, and who has basically pandered to the likes of Pat Robertson, and done an about face on many other things he stood for?
Or, do you want the guy who has no track record whatsoever along with an ideology that was formed in a manner that no one really knows anything about, who is going to have to clean up one serious mess with no experience to speak of?
i completely agree, no one in politics represents me or where i stand. but i can say that some of them are alot further away from me than others. honestly, this country is so far away from where it was, and where it should be that there is little hope in rectifying it. Economically, we are fucked if China stops lending us money, our retarded government has borrowed so much money that they can't afford the interest on the national debt, yet still keep overfunding the military and dumping money into a retarded ass war.
With McCain you get a guy who claims to be some sort of an independent, but has vote more times with the republican ranks than any other senator. sure he wants to put an end to pork barrel legislation, but that shit is a drop in a bucket to where the real spending issues are, and that's obviously with the military. He has no interest in ending the war in Iraq, yet claims that shit will be done by 2013. I remember when Rumsfeld told us it was laughable that we would be in Iraq for 6 months. These are the kind of people McCain is now surrounding himself with, I mean shit, he hired Karl Rove, the man who ran the most dispicable campaign ever against McCain in 2000.
With Hilary, I think recent events have clearly shown that she is certainly interested in the best interest of Hilary over the best interests of the country, or really cares about what the voters have voted on.
Sure, Obama is some sort of a wildcard, but fuck, could it possibly get any worse? You think by electing Obama the terrorists have some sort of tactical advantage? Have you been paying attention to what the idiots have been doing the last 7 years or so? Jesus, it's the perfect storm of ineptness and impropriety. Shit, I would take a monkey flinging shit at a board of decisions trying to pick the right one, because at least the monkey has a chance of hitting the right decision. The people in charge now, certainly do not.
So, honestly I think the American "empire" is on the brink of collapse, and I don't think there's much we can do about it, I mean with the problems in our justice system, energy issues, environmental issues, growing gap in wealth, right wing hawk's molding social policy.... the list is endless, so fuck it, time to go somewhere I can drink a beer on the street without going to jail for it. a place where moral choices, don't become federal legislation.