QUOTE(AussieLad @ Jun 29 2008, 01:46 AM) [snapback]394066[/snapback]
LOL... "Are we arguing P4P now". I thought that was fucking obvious. Who is the most perfect fighter in MMA right now... what does that sentence imply? Does it stipulate heavyweight, does it stipulate a division... no, the only thing it stipulates is the best active fighter... so yes, P4P if i need to spell it out to you. Although i really thought it was obvious that was what we are discussing.
I was comparing Fedor to Anderson Silva, dumbass, I wasn't doing a fucking P4P rundown on every fighter in the game. I posed the "P4P" question to you after you shit the names BJ Penn and Georges St. Pierre out of your mouth.
So what if Penn thinks kicks are useless?
So what? So you said BJ Penn was the #1 fighter in the game, or close to it, meanwhile you shit on Fedor at every turn, claiming "The number one fighter in the world should have kicks in his arsenal." So fuck off with your condescending bullshit, chump. You aren't smart enough for it.
GSP landed numerous inside leg kicks on Penn, and threw the odd head kick, without penn being able to capitalize on this "vulnerability" the majority of the time, let alone everytime. GSP won the fight, and you yourself said GSP has a shot at the ranking if it wasnt for a freak loss against Serra, GSP's game includes a solid base of kicks. A kicking game is part of a complete fighters skillset, and a deficiency in any aspect of the game is still a deficiency.
Circular argument, Einstein. You brought up the names of both BJ Penn and GSP, so congratulations for actually sitting here and debating yourself as to which fighter is better. It's not often you catch a motherfucker debating himself like that... and winning. That's some Chuck Norris-type shit right there.
Besides, that wasnt my point, Penns submissions are superior to fedors and his striking is comparable.
Is that fact or opinion? You wanna know a FACT? Fedor has more submission wins than Penn, and he has them over better competition. Penn has 5 FUCKING submissions in his career! Fedor has 14 subs, and he holds victories over almost every single big name opponent at or near his weight class. After he rapes Tim Sylvia, Randy Cotoure will be the only name left. Let's see what kind of credit you guys give Fedor for that win too. Randy was proclaimed GOD after beating Tim Sylvia, never mind the fact he was coming off two brutal KO's to a light heavyweight. Fedor gets that win and you guys say big deal, fight Randy. Fedor rapes Randy and it's big deal, Randy's old. You fuckers kill me.
He has a superior skillset p4p, despite the record which is more a reflection of his dedication to training than his skill.
So a fighter's shitty conditioning shouldn't be held against him? If he loses when he gasses it doesn't count as a loss? WTF? Then James Toney is still the P4P #1 bad ass in the sport of boxing today, if that's the case. Jesus H. Christ, you're a real fucking genius at this debate shit.
And as i said before, the destination is more importat than the path one travels to get there, and a spotless record means shit if the last time you fought a legit opponent was april 2007, and the only fight since thenm was against a freak show in December 2007.
Again, who else is left for Fedor? Sylvia? Randy? And then what? Back to the same shit about how he's fighting nobody? Who else is there? Who else does the man have to beat? Does he have to go through his entire comp list again, and maybe fight guys twice or thrice in one night? Will he get his fucking respect then? Nope, he won't. Not from fucking TUF noobs like you. Go play in the sandbox kid, you're getting on my nerves.