From the Hatton-Urango thread in the Archives.....
Big call Hype backing a washed up shop warn Fighter to tko Hatton
I never said Castillo was "elite", but I certainly don't think he's a "washed up shop warn Fighter".
Personally, I think statements like that should be reserved for fighters like Arturo Gatti.
I don't think that failing to make weight is any indication of a fighter becoming "washed up" or "shop warn". He just can't make the weight anymore...period. He's been struggling with the weight since the Mayweather fights (in 2002). Castillo just made the mistake of sticking around that weight for one too many fights. Miguel Cotto, on the other hand, was smart enough to realize when it was time to move on. He was fortunate enough not to embarass himself by failing to make weight. Now surely you wouldn't imply that Cotto is "washed up" and "shop warn" simply because he can't make 140 anymore...would you???? I see no reason why you would point to Castillo's failure to make 135 as a sign that he's "washed up".
Castillo may not be quite as good at 140 as he was at 135...but then again, maybe he still is.
Certainly you have to give Ngoudju some credit. Before the fight, you considered him to be a "no name". As such, I can only assume that you had never seen him fight before. If that's the case, then certainly you must have been impressed with the skills he displayed in the ring. Nice jab. Tight defense. Good combos. Decent movement. Can box and mix it up. He had an opportunity to showcase himself on HBO and fought a great fight against a high-profile name. Excellent job Ngoudju.
As far as Castillo's concerned, I thought he looked about the same given the circumstances. Coming off a long layoff. Questions about his weight. An opponent he wasn't too excited about facing. A guy that showed him a jab and some movement. If you ask me, it looked a lot like Castillo's fights with Rolando Reyes, Julio Diaz, Juan Lazcano and even Joel Casamayor...fights where Castillo looked frustrated early because his opponents were on the move. Then he'd turn up the pressure and take over in the second half of the fight.
From what I saw, Castillo didn't even think he was in serious jeopardy of losing the fight...even joking around with photographers as Lampley pointed out. Looked like just another day at the office...just another ho-hum tune-up until he can get back onto the big stage.
I think you're making waaaaaay too much out of his fight with Ngoudju. Personally, I think Ngoudju was probably the tougher assignment. I mean, Urango didn't even win his last fight against Ben Rabah (which is fitting considering that Hatton didn't win his last fight against Collazo). Urango's a one punch fighter....right hook, right hook, right hook...that's all he can do. Ngoudju is a much more talented fighter than that, with more tools in his bag, making him a more difficult opponent. In fact, if I may be so bold, I'd even pick Ngoudju to beat Hatton.
Look, I don't want to knock Hatton, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for someone to think that Castillo can stop him. I just think you're not giving Ngoudju enough credit for actually being a pretty good fighter and you're giving Hatton too much credit for beating a pretty basic fighter in Urango. Plus, Hatton has clearly shown that he's vulnerable to the body and Castillo, who despite looking a bit rusty against Ngoudju, has clearly shown that he still like's putting in relentless work to the body. Hatton has also shown me that he doesn't like mixing it up quite as much as some people like to say. His punch-clinch-break-repeat style may work against lazy fighters like Urango, but I don't think it's going to work against someone who's as tenacious and dirty as Castillo. In fact, I think that's only going to piss Castillo off even more, which, in turn, is going to make it even uglier for Jawny Hatton. I think eventually, it would be Castillo wearing him down and stopping him with a body shot late in the fight. Not too shabby for a "washed up shop warn Fighter".
For the record, you can also add Junior Witter, Diego Corrales, Kendall Holt and Ben Rabah to that list of 140lbs fighters that I think will beat Hatton.
Just out of curiosity, if Castillo really is a "washed up shop warn Fighter", then what the hell is Hatton wasting his time fighting him for?
I guess it would be so he can add him to his list of other "washed up shop warn Fighters" that he's already beaten...you know...guys like Joe Hutchinson, Vince Phillips, Ben Tackie, Dennis Pederson, Carlos Vilches, Michael Stewart, Ray Oliveira and, dare I say it, Kostya Tszyu.
and that's that.
Hype and others thought that even a worn version of Castillo could beat Hatton.....it wasn't an off base call....for example....a battle worn and past prime Morales beat a strong Pacquiao....
We NOW know that Hatton eventually faced and stopped Castillo...but let's set something straight....there's a notable difference between being "battle worn and past prime" and "washed up and SHOP worn"...
So after revisiting all this....I have to retract what I said earlier...
You didn't say he was simply worn....you said he was "washed up and SHOP worn"....which I disagree with...
Castillo was battle worn, well past his prime, financially broke, and unmotivated by the time he faced Hatton....which means Hatton's win over him still means next to nothing....