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STEVENSKI
Obama is a scumbag. You would think he would have at least helped out his brother. Real classy guy Obama is.


BARACK BROTHER IN SHACK SHOCK
LIVING IN KENYA ON $1 A MONTH AND ASHAMED TO REVEAL WHO HE IS
By ANDY SOLTIS, Post Wire Services

Posted: 3:54 am
August 21, 2008

Barack Obama's long-lost half-brother has surfaced in Kenya - living like a recluse on less than $1 a month and hiding his family ties.

George Hussein Onyango Obama, 25, said he's embarrassed to reveal his identity - because he makes his home in a 6-by-9-foot hut on the outskirts of Nairobi while his world-famous brother is hoping to move into the White House.

"If anyone says something about my surname, I say we are not related; I am ashamed," he told the Italian Vanity Fair. "No one knows who I am."

Barack Obama, 47, wrote warmly about his youngest half-brother in his autobiography, describing him as a "beautiful boy with a rounded head."

The two men - 22 years apart in age - have only met twice. Once was when George was 5. The other was during the Illinois senator's emotional tour of east Africa in 2006.

"It was very brief. We spoke for just a few minutes," George told the magazine. "It was like meeting a complete stranger."

Since Barack Obama became a celebrity, several relatives have shared in his fame, including half-brother Bernard, a Kenyan auto-parts dealer who was front-page news when he visited England last month.

But until now, almost nothing was known about George, who was born to Barack's father, Barack Sr., and his fourth wife.

Barack Sr.'s second wife was American Ann Dunham, the mother of the future senator. But the marriage failed, and after completing his studies in the United States, he returned to Kenya, where he became a senior government economist.

He fathered seven other children, the youngest being George.

Italy's Vanity Fair tracked George Obama down to the violent Kenyan town of Huruma, where he lives alone in a shack adorned with soccer posters, a calendar depicting beaches around the world, and a front-page newspaper photo of the Democratic presidential nominee-to-be.

George Obama said he has no contact with his mother, and apparently has cut himself off from the rest of the family.

"I have had to learn to live and take what I need," he said.

He said he was homeless for 10 years, including when Sen. Obama visited Nairobi two years ago. His home now, the shanty town of Huruma, is "a tough place," he said.

"I have seen two of my friends killed," he added. "I have scars from defending myself with my fists. I am good with my fists."

Other members of the extended Obama family have remained close.

Barack Obama and half-brother Malik Obama, a Kenyan accountant, were the best man at each other's weddings.

"As far as I'm concerned, we are one family," Malik said in 2004.

In Barack Obama's book, he said he was a young adult when he found out about George from his half-sister Auma. In 1988, he met George and several other relatives for the first time when he visited Africa and introduced his wife, Michelle, to the family.

"I took comfort in the fact that perhaps one day, when he was older, George might want to know who his father had been and who his brothers and sisters were," he wrote. "And if he ever came to me, I would be there for him, to tell him the story I knew."

But George Obama is living apart from his family.

"I live like a recluse. No one knows I exist," he said.

The CEO
I start a thread today where I say being gay is wrong...and now STEVEN calls Obama, potentially the 1st Black president, a scumbag.....

Business is about to pick up...laugh.gif
Byrd Man
This isn't even worth responding to.

have fun voting for John "Bomb Bomb Iran" McCain. Maybe you can donate some money so he can buy some more houses.
Method
I don't want him in.

Fuck the 50% tax bracket.

Fuck the proposed cap gains tax hike.

Fuck all this socialist bullshit.
caneman
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer
JD
Both candidates suck.
STEVENSKI
QUOTE(Byrd Man @ Aug 22 2008, 02:17 AM) [snapback]401402[/snapback]
This isn't even worth responding to.

have fun voting for John "Bomb Bomb Iran" McCain. Maybe you can donate some money so he can buy some more houses.



I won't be voting for anyone since I am not Amerikkklan.

What would you call a guy who lets his brother live in abject poverty whilst he lives in the lap of luxury suckling himself off the taxpayers teat? I would call that a piece of trash so low it does not even register.

If he treats his own flesh & blood like this then how will he treat his constituents if he is elected president?

Either way the USA is screwed whoever you get & what a great choice you have.
AKay
I dont think im even bothering to vote this time around. Its just not even worth it to me.

Like said previously both candidates suck.

Wil
Byrd Man
QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Aug 21 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]401411[/snapback]
I won't be voting for anyone since I am not Amerikkklan.

What would you call a guy who lets his brother live in abject poverty whilst he lives in the lap of luxury suckling himself off the taxpayers teat? I would call that a piece of trash so low it does not even register.

If he treats his own flesh & blood like this then how will he treat his constituents if he is elected president?

Either way the USA is screwed whoever you get & what a great choice you have.


I just assumed this was a "I'm going to shit on Barack" thread that wasn't really expecting a response. 1st of all it's the NY FUCKING POST. That should be enough to shit on what you posted right there by itself.

Secondly, you act like Obama knows of this guy and is letting him rot over somewhere else and said "Fuck you".

If you read the post it even says that A. he's had very little contact with him because he's only met him twice. B. It's obvious his brother doesn't WANT to be in Barack's life, and doesn't want anything to do with his brother.

It states that his brother is ashamed of himself, and so he doesn't want to bring shame on to Barack.

However people who already have their minds made up about Obama see what they want to see.

I'm not getting into a back and forth with you (or anyone else) over Obama because as I said...those who don't like him already have their minds made up and refuse to see anything other than what they want, or what fits their ideas of who he is.

It's not like this subforum is rife with intelligent discussions anyway. No offense. lol
STEVENSKI
QUOTE(Byrd Man @ Aug 22 2008, 05:05 AM) [snapback]401447[/snapback]
Secondly, you act like Obama knows of this guy and is letting him rot over somewhere else and said "Fuck you".


He does know of this guy. He visited him when he was homeless for gods sake & did NOTHING about it. This cat is a politician who earns good money & has left his BLOOD relative to ROT in poverty. If he cares so little for a blood relative just think about how much he cares about you or anyone else. He deserves nothing short of a sound blackjacking for his lack of action.
Byrd Man
QUOTE(STEVENSKI @ Aug 22 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]401463[/snapback]
He does know of this guy. He visited him when he was homeless for gods sake & did NOTHING about it. This cat is a politician who earns good money & has left his BLOOD relative to ROT in poverty. If he cares so little for a blood relative just think about how much he cares about you or anyone else. He deserves nothing short of a sound blackjacking for his lack of action.

The Republicans are doing a helluva job on Barack. Has everyone believing what they want them to.

STEVENSKI
QUOTE(Byrd Man @ Aug 22 2008, 06:41 AM) [snapback]401474[/snapback]
The Republicans are doing a helluva job on Barack. Has everyone believing what they want them to.



I am a nothing politically. I would be quite happy to see both candidates hung drawn & quartered to be honest. They both would merrily lead the world down the parth of nuclear holocaust if it fattened their bank account. Fuck them both although I tend to think Barack has done a better job of presenting a likeable piece of shit than McCain.

Then again this is like saying do you want to eat a shit sandwich or a turd milkshake both will leave a foul taste in your mouth if you can stomach it that is.
D-MARV
I guess we should just believe all the negative press on these politicians!!!! rolleyes.gif
blackbelt2003
I'm not a fan of the guy (personally I'd say McCain is the lesser of two evils), but there does seem to be a tenuous link between him and his brother.


I'm sure if you dug into most families there'd be some blood relative somewhere who lives like shit. Should we all dig into our family history and send money to the Polish/African/Mexican/Irish outreaches of our family?

I'm damned sure I wouldn't give away money to somebody I only met twice, especially if I was somebody as important as Barrack Obama who I'm sure has better connections to real charity.




Black
caneman
QUOTE(damarvelous1 @ Aug 22 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]401486[/snapback]
I guess we should just believe all the negative press on these politicians!!!! rolleyes.gif



The part that sucks is that most of hear about politicians have some truth to it & it's worse once they are elected! I can't even remember there being 2 good candidates to choose from! We are stuck picking between best of 2 evils which really sucks! Just my opinion & I ain't trying to shit on either guy! FOR THE RECORD, THESE DAYS WE SHOULD BELIEVE ANYTHING THE MEDIA SAYS & JUST TAKE IT ON FACE VALUE! We already know what Fox news will say just like we know what CNN will say! Wanna know something, they have been making this big deal about John Edward's getting some pussy on the side & ignore the fact that Russia that invaded freaking Georgia! They have taken sides so badly that they can't even effectively report the fucking news in a responsible way! I'll vote for the guy who wants to do away with the IRS & go to fair tax so everyone pays!
Douchebag
Obama is the next President. Deal with it!
Method
Locked dead even right now, so relax.

The economy will be fucked (worse than it is) IF he gets elected. Deal with THAT.
Douchebag
QUOTE(Method @ Aug 22 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]401516[/snapback]
Locked dead even right now, so relax.

The economy will be fucked (worse than it is) IF he gets elected. Deal with THAT.



Didn't say that it wouldn't be.....All I said is that HE is going to be the next President so people need to quit whinning about it. Once they get to debating it's going to be a wrap for McCain because he can't even keep his thoughts straight half the time. LOL @ ur response, it aint that serious.
Method
Maybe not for the tax bracket of a delivery boy. Anything would be a trade up compared to that.

All kidding aside, you're right, things would still need to be passed through congress, but still...

I know you're in the financial industry. I will give you the benefit of the doubt (although not sure you've earned it) that you read the major financial publications (FT, IBD, Barrons, WSJ). Surely you would agree that the general consensus among accredited institutions is that an Obama White House would be bad for the economy/markets.

That said, I am all for anyone deserving/worthy of the presidency, regardless of race or gender. I like Obama. I just don't think he is the guy, whether he makes it or not.
JD
While McCain is a decent debater, not a great debater...Obama tends to have some problems when he isn't delivering a speech or has a teleprompter - Obama seems to get too involved in nuances.

A junior Senator who has spent half his 4 years in the Senate campaigning is NOT ready to be president...and McCain is old, confused, and occasionally thoughtless - the mere fact that the press does not have access to him on the campaign trail tells about his own campaign managers concerns.
caneman
QUOTE(Method @ Aug 22 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]401516[/snapback]
Locked dead even right now, so relax.

The economy will be fucked (worse than it is) IF he gets elected. Deal with THAT.



The fastest fix for this economy is the fair tax fact or consumption tax cause for 1 everyone will pay....drug dealers, all those without green cards, my mom & me will pay! SS won't be here when I need to collect anyhow plus @ this rate(the age going up)I'll be 85 & lucky to go take a shit on my own. It should come down to what you send which translates to what you make & if someone is crazy enough to but $200 jeans & sneakers every week than I guess they deserve it too! THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE PRESIDENT DON'T RUN THIS FREAKING COUNTRY ANYHOW....BIG BUSINESS DOES!
Method
QUOTE
Obama tends to have some problems when he isn't delivering a speech or has a teleprompter




No wonder he rejected McCain's challenge for cross-country town hall debates.
Mean Mister Mustard
QUOTE(caneman @ Aug 22 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]401565[/snapback]
The fastest fix for this economy is the fair tax fact or consumption tax cause for 1 everyone will pay....drug dealers, all those without green cards, my mom & me will pay! SS won't be here when I need to collect anyhow plus @ this rate(the age going up)I'll be 85 & lucky to go take a shit on my own. It should come down to what you send which translates to what you make & if someone is crazy enough to but $200 jeans & sneakers every week than I guess they deserve it too! THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE PRESIDENT DON'T RUN THIS FREAKING COUNTRY ANYHOW....BIG BUSINESS DOES![size="3"][/size]


Words of wisdom. I still can't believe that after all these years some people still bother to go out and vote. Glad to see you guys aren't those people.
Method
QUOTE
I still can't believe that after all these years some people still bother to go out and vote. Glad to see you guys aren't those people.


I can't believe someone would come out and say some shit like that.


caneman
QUOTE(Mean Mister Mustard @ Aug 22 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]401579[/snapback]
Words of wisdom. I still can't believe that after all these years some people still bother to go out and vote. Glad to see you guys aren't those people.



The only thing I can say about the core of that is if you don't vote, how can you bitch about anything? By the same token what are our chooses to vote on in the 1st place?!?!?! It's a catch 22, ain't it?
JD
QUOTE(Method @ Aug 22 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]401570[/snapback]
No wonder he rejected McCain's challenge for cross-country town hall debates.


Well that...and the fact that Obama has raised so much more money than McCain, agreeing to those cross country debates is the equivalent of handing him a slew of free air time that he wouldn't otherwise have.

This election was basically gift wrapped and delivered on a silver platter, if the Dems blow this they should be ashamed of themselves...polls shouldn't even be close right now.
Douchebag
QUOTE(JD @ Aug 22 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]401584[/snapback]
Well that...and the fact that Obama has raised so much more money than McCain, agreeing to those cross country debates is the equivalent of handing him a slew of free air time that he wouldn't otherwise have.

This election was basically gift wrapped and delivered on a silver platter, if the Dems blow this they should be ashamed of themselves...polls shouldn't even be close right now.



Exactly! Obama has this shit in the bag. I wonder if theres line Vegas on this shit because I would put a gwap on it.
JD
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Aug 23 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]401589[/snapback]
Exactly! Obama has this shit in the bag. I wonder if theres line Vegas on this shit because I would put a gwap on it.


I don't think he has anything in the bag...doesn't mean I don't think he will win, frankly I don't know at this point. Look back at what the polls looked like in 04 at this time, Kerry was well ahead of GWB and he blew it, McCain and Obama are basically deadlocked right now. I have no idea what is going to happen in this election, but I do know that I have no confidence in either guy winning...or doing a good job.

There is a moneyline in Vegas on basically anything.
hardhead
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Aug 22 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]401517[/snapback]
Didn't say that it wouldn't be.....All I said is that HE is going to be the next President so people need to quit whinning about it. Once they get to debating it's going to be a wrap for McCain because he can't even keep his thoughts straight half the time. LOL @ ur response, it aint that serious.



That's what I thought after the debates with Kerry and Bush. I thought Kerry smoked Bush in the debates but a little more than half of the American people thought otherwise(frankly only a moron could think Bush won those debates). Of course Kerry could not play down the swift boat ads/his protesting of the Vietnam War after he actually came home from getting wounded in it, while old W was nowhere to be found in the Texas Air Guard. The patriotic drum beating and fear mongering was in full effect back then and it worked very well that's for sure. The Republicans were able to take his strong points(foreign policy/military service) and make him look weak on it(in addition to the flip flopping and elitist charges). My guy back then was Wes Clark but the knock on him was that he had no "Washington" political experience, go figure? I thought that was a good thing at the time.

If you notice McCain has stepped up his attacks along similar lines(not quite as vicious but they're coming because polls numbers are showing it's more than likely working) in the past month and half. This is right after he fired some of his campaign managers and brought on a couple Rove proteges. Ironically both camps stated from the beginning they would run respectable campaigns(ie stick to issues as much as possible instead of negative attacks) of course that's all a bunch of BS. Anybody who thought this was going to be campaign on the issues aint seen nothing yet, it's about to get real ugly in the coming weeks, starting this Monday to be exact.
Mean Mister Mustard
QUOTE(caneman @ Aug 22 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]401582[/snapback]
The only thing I can say about the core of that is if you don't vote, how can you bitch about anything? By the same token what are our chooses to vote on in the 1st place?!?!?! It's a catch 22, ain't it?


Like George Carlin said, you didn't vote for any of these assholes so you have more if a right to complain.
rusty_trombone
Ah, the New York Post, such a legitimate source for news.

This country is going down. and going down fast. We are in a political mess, on the brink of economic disaster, half of us our apathetic, a whole shitload of us I wouldn't want voting because they don't know dick about anything. The problem with voting is the same problem with procreating, any asshole with a dick can do it. Democracy never takes into account wrong or right decisions, only what the masses(or whatever lobby wants something done) want. If you have an educated populous, that's great. Unfortunately, we have people who try and legislate dumb ass shit. For fucks sake, there's places in this country where you can't buy alcohol at a store on Sunday, if that is not completely retarded and 13th century England to you, then you are fucking stupid. This country is going backwards, not forwards, we made the mistake of not learning from history, and now we're fucked.

I can't wait for the, "America isn't perfect, but it's the best country on the planet " argument.
Method
LOL Rusty. Can't say I disagree.
The CEO
"LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!", Rusty....laugh.gif


I see Obama chose Biden as his running mate...smart choice.

JD
Smart choice because he brings tons of foreign policy and general senate experience, he is actually middle class, and his positions do matter. It isn't because he comes from a small state that is relatively meaningless and the Dems already had...plus the Conservatives will paint his as a totally out of the mainstream liberal.
The CEO
Yeah...he's very experienced and presents himself as a professional and competent person...and that's usually all it takes to get approval...most voters don't delve too deep after that...they just roll with the impression they get....

I also think that if Obama is assassinated (which many think he will be), he can slide right in and handle the drama and the role....
JD
Biden tends to really speak his mind, which often leads to some classic gaffes.
Douchebag
QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Aug 23 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]401623[/snapback]
Yeah...he's very experienced and presents himself as a professional and competent person...and that's usually all it takes to get approval...most voters don't delve too deep after that...they just roll with the impression they get....

I also think that if Obama is assassinated (which many think he will be), he can slide right in and handle the drama and the role....



Obama is not getting killed. Don't you know that he is the AntiChrist. rolleyes.gif
rusty_trombone
QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Aug 23 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]401620[/snapback]
"LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!", Rusty....laugh.gif

America, greatest country in the history of the universe. ever
The CEO
QUOTE(JD @ Aug 23 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]401624[/snapback]
Biden tends to really speak his mind, which often leads to some classic gaffes.


are you saying Biden is like Big Floyd?...lol...that's cool with me...

but seriously....I can't remember when it was...but a few or several years ago, Biden was the head of a committee overseeing some hearing with some famous person in the hot seat....he took charge and stole the show...just knocked it out of the park....he won me over with that performance....
The CEO
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Aug 23 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]401625[/snapback]
Don't you know that he is the AntiChrist. rolleyes.gif


I've heard that crap....lol...but hey...his roots DO come from the other hemisphere, and he IS very charismatic.....which is what Nostradamus told us about the AC....
hitman harding
QUOTE(The Conscience @ Aug 22 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]401510[/snapback]
Obama is the next President. Deal with it!


The first Islamic President of the United States . God please help us !!!
hitman harding
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "

We have to hope he forgets all those years of being brain washed as a student in a strict Islamic school in Indonesia have been forgotten.

I and a lot of people with half a brain seem to think he discovered Jesus when he discovered politics.

Mc Cain by default
hardhead
QUOTE(JD @ Aug 23 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]401622[/snapback]
Smart choice because he brings tons of foreign policy and general senate experience, he is actually middle class, and his positions do matter. It isn't because he comes from a small state that is relatively meaningless and the Dems already had...plus the Conservatives will paint his as a totally out of the mainstream liberal.



I think I've said this before but Biden was my pick originally out of all the candidates but he never had a chance because Clinton and Obama were pegged pretty early. Plus like you said Biden speaks his mind and in this highly scrutinized, 24/7 media world we live that's not always a good thing. I really like the guy and think he knows a lot about the shit that this country is dealing with and will deal with.
hitman harding
QUOTE(hardhead @ Aug 23 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]401632[/snapback]
I think I've said this before but Biden was my pick originally out of all the candidates but he never had a chance because Clinton and Obama were pegged pretty early. Plus like you said Biden speaks his mind and in this highly scrutinized, 24/7 media world we live that's not always a good thing. I really like the guy and think he knows a lot about the shit that this country is dealing with and will deal with.


Biden was quick to point out that we would be in Bagdag in under a week, Then asked the logical question what is the next step ?
This very same question is still being asked to day, He is a very forward thinking type and brings some good things to the table.
Obama is ready to throw more troops into Afganastan which to me is a bigger lost cause then Iraq!!! No way Afgans are ever going to be ruled by a single goverment out of Kabul, Biden realises this to be a lost cause and if Obama somehow gets elected he must leave the foreign policy to Biden .
rusty_trombone
QUOTE(hitman harding @ Aug 23 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]401631[/snapback]
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "

We have to hope he forgets all those years of being brain washed as a student in a strict Islamic school in Indonesia have been forgotten.

I and a lot of people with half a brain seem to think he discovered Jesus when he discovered politics.

Mc Cain by default

I hope you're joking with this, wow you watch way to much fox news
JD
QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Aug 23 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]401627[/snapback]
are you saying Biden is like Big Floyd?...lol...that's cool with me...

but seriously....I can't remember when it was...but a few or several years ago, Biden was the head of a committee overseeing some hearing with some famous person in the hot seat....he took charge and stole the show...just knocked it out of the park....he won me over with that performance....


Biden just kinda says what is on his mind...even it is not all that PC.

You are probably talking about the Samuel Alito confirmation hearings.
rusty_trombone
QUOTE(JD @ Aug 23 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]401637[/snapback]
Biden just kinda says what is on his mind...even it is not all that PC.

You are probably talking about the Samuel Alito confirmation hearings.

yeah, i remember that. alito is a dickbag
JD
Byrd Man
QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Aug 23 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]401628[/snapback]
I've heard that crap....lol...but hey...his roots DO come from the other hemisphere, and he IS very charismatic.....which is what Nostradamus told us about the AC....


people who believe that antichrist stuff are the dumbest most gullible fuckers in the world man.

And also they have no knowledge of the antichrist other than what the conservatives are putting out.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp
Byrd Man
QUOTE(rusty_trombone @ Aug 23 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]401635[/snapback]
I hope you're joking with this, wow you watch way to much fox news


More to the point he appears to be "A JOKE" so....take whatever he's said with a grain of salt.
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